Talk:Southsea
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Ben 20:28, 14 May 2006 (UTC) Dickens lived in Wish Street, Southsea in 1813. Wish street only existed between 1810 & 1867, when it gave way to other housing development. However it was in Southsea as it in between the area of green street/landport terrace (i.e below winston Churchill Ave) so maybe he should be in?
- Maybe, Landport Terrace though is not in Southsea, so it would depend on exactly whereabouts Wish Street was. I'm slightly dubious that it was truely in Southsea as the article on Southsea itself has the area only starting to be developed in 1809, five years before the Dickens left for LondonNuttah68 19:07, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
- The article itself also says that Landport Terrace is in Southsea (or implies it is the boundary) and they were built in 1810 - just before 1813, so it was probably known as Southsea at the time. Wish street source is http://www.dickenslive.com/181219.shtml or http://www.victorianweb.org/authors/dickens/pva/pva322.html Need another good source to be sure and something more on Southsea boundaries at the time. Ben 20:28, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
- The linked map is an OS map from the early 1810s (Uni of Portsmouth site). At that time the only reference to Southsea is the castle. Care is needed as Southsea town council, and others, are fond of extending the boundaries of what they consider Southsea if they feel is suits them. I would be confident that Southsea, as the article stands, was unheard of in the few years Dickens spent in Portsmouth. http://www.geog.port.ac.uk/webmap/hantsmap/hantsmap/ordnce6/oss59.htm Nuttah68 16:37, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
- Good map! I found on these http://www.southseatowncouncil.co.uk/h1.htm where it says "In 1830 sufficient building activity appeared along what is still named Kings Terrace and Bellevue Terrace for Southsea to be viewed as a new town" and on http://www.btinternet.com/~brentours/ENGH08.htm it indicates "1839: More building in Southsea around the 'mineral streets' – Gold, Nickel, Silver, Copper, Diamond. The area is known as 'Croxton Town', but will soon become part of Southsea.". I from what we have both found, I think the "Wish Street, Southsea" phrase in the Dickens sites looks incorrect, and Dickens shouldn't be in Southsea. Thanks for the clarifications. Ben 19:31, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
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