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[edit] Welcome

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[edit] Handbook of Texas

Sounds like a lot of work. Glad to see we have people active on the general area.

Well, I can do compulsive for a bit, then I get burned out for a bit; a good ways to go before that happens though. On the brighter side, it's putting a lot of articles on my watch list, so I see what changes other editors are making thse days and helps learn the Wikipedia style and culture. It's also getting me through a good cross-section of articles at the code level, so I'm learning a lot. --studerby 02:31, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Elijah E. Myers

Studerby: how is a good way to get in touch with you? My wife works with at the Michigan Capitol in the tour and information service. She currently is researching Elijah Myers in order to compile a more complete record of his accomplishments. She is looking for information from across the nation (and internationally, too) and wondered how to get in touch with you as you seem to have some information on Myers. My email (the "@" and "." will be spelled out so that I do not get a ton of spam) is davemarvin at s#c#l#b#l dot com. Plus, she can share some of her information with you if you have questions.

Thanks, David Marvin

Thanks for the follow-up, Stu. Kerry is my wife's boss, so contacting her would be sort of silly! Not sure why the email doesn't work for you.

-David Marvin

[edit] Abdul Taib Mahmud

No, the old index is correct. Mahmud is his father. I have reverted the article.– Matthew A. Lockhart ^(talk) 15:01, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Louie Gohmert

I looked at that, but I didn't think Vote-USA is a product of the Federal government. I could be wrong, but it doesn't look very official. In any case, you're right, it's pretty POV so I didn't spend much time on it. I copied the version without the bio section to the temp page just in case there's a problem with folks reverting to it over and over. In that case I'll just delete it and move the temp page to the main article. At least that way they can't just revert to it. Rx StrangeLove 03:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyrights/Indian wars

Ummm... what if Tess Wiley gave me permission to take that from her site? I have e-mails if you would like to see them, or you can e-mail her yourself. I did take Carin Gabberas, but the Arikara is from ME! The Hidatsa is from MY site...so how do I get it on there to stay? Do I give you my sites or Tess's site? Thanks. Well, alos I contributed to the Indian wars about weapons. It was all my own words and I worked hard on it...so did you delete it? I am just upset because I copied stuff with Tess's approval and now it is all gone. So is my hard worked hidatsa page and my arikara page (don't know how you thought that was copied) anyway I guess I have just wasted my time here. user:Shy1520 August 6, 5:04

Well, we can maybe work some of this out, I hope...

1. Tess Wiley's permission (probably) needs to be to the public at large, it certainly needs to be verifiable by Wikipedians. I'm doubtful that forwarding an email will work. I'll see if I can find anything in the Wikipedia policies that will help, but I'm pretty doubtful (but I certainly don't know everything about Wikipedia). Also, please keep in mind, copyright covers expression, the particular arrangement of words, but does not cover facts or ideas. If you rewrite the facts about Tess Wiley in your own words, using her site as a reference, that should produce an acceptable Wikipedia article.
2. The WP:CP page explains what to do for your own work. Look for the section starting Copyright owners who submitted their own work to Wikipedia:. While that process may seem burdensome, the problem is that a lot of people think it's OK to copy anything they find on the net and so anything on the net that matches content in Wikipedia is pretty much assumed to by a copyright violation, unless the original source on the net clearly allows public copying, either by saying so, or by being within one of a limited number of exceptions. In this particluar case, since I've found so much copying by you from sources that just can't all be your own work, I think I have to be "by the book", so we need to get the other site that displays your work to say that it is copyable (again, please see WP:CP). However, if we can't work out a way that I think lets wikipedians verify that the copied work is allowable in Wikipedia and you think I'm in error, then there are some senior editors and an arbitration commitee we can ask to step in and referee. I certainly don't want you to think that my decisions are final, I'm a relatively new editor here too (although I've been dealing with copyright issues in other arenas for over 20 years), and I'm still learning some of the Wikipedia processes.

Again, I'm sorry to be reverting so much of your hard work, I know you care about your content. --studerby 22:09, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

In response to why I thought the Arikara material was probably copied

• first so many of your other significant contributions were word-for-word matches to content on other web sites on the Internet, which just could not all be authored by the same person.
• second, this webpage has word-for-word matches to what you contributed to Wikipedia. Now you could have written both, or that page could have copied from Wikipedia (which is allowable for them to do but only if they properly follow WP:GFDL and which requires that notify everybody where they got the words), or you could have copied from that site. I can't tell which, and neither can any other editor, but it looks like a copyright infringement to me (at the moment). Please note that, I put my reasons for reverting that content in the talk page for Arikara, at Talk:Arikara. --studerby 22:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I readily admit to the Carin Gabarra, but I think you have the wrong site, because I took it from her Navy site. Tess Wiley's was a favor just to get her name out there. Hidatsa is a tribe I have worked closely with in real life, so I do own that. So let's say I just want to take it out of my own page....could I just put a copyright saying it is from my page or should I just right at the bottom of my website explaining how the content can be re-written? Thanks User: Shy1520

The best thing, as the WP:CP article suggests, is to get your website to say that the material may be copyied in a way that is compatbile with the WP:GFDL, so that Wikipedia can let other people copy it. There are several different ways that can be done, 3 possible variations among many are:

* donation to the public domain - gives up all rights to your words and no one has to give you credit (although good people will)

* a Wiki-compatible licensing statement allowing free copying under certain situations like - lets people copy your words in any Wiki-like thing, not just Wikipedia

* a licensing statment just for Wikipedia

You can do one of the first two easily by putting a Creative Commons licensing statement on your web page, either the Public Domain or Wiki license. See this websites:

* Creative Commons licenses

* Creative Commons FAQ

The license page for the license you pick will have some HTML you can cut and paste into your web page to mark it as comething that can be copied into Wikipedia. You can also write your own licensing lanuage, and we can see if it's compatible with WP:GFDL. Please understand that there's not a requirement that you use the Creative Commons thing, I'm just pointing to it because it seems simple to me. It might not be exactly what you want to do, and other ways can be made to work. --studerby 23:52, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

In response to the why I reverted your edits in the Indian wars article, in summary, I thought it violated some Wikipedia policies and decreased the quality of the article. It is clear to me that those were your own words, and there is no question of a copyright problem in those edits. In more detail:

* the edits violate the Wikipedia policy WP:NPOV - the edits appear to contain your own opinions and judgments

* it contains assertions of fact that are not supported and violates the policy WP:VERIFY. In practice, with relatively young and immature articles, a lot of editors don't worry so much about that when the asserted facts also seem believable because they expect the citations to be added later, they'll ignore it for the time being or add an annotation that says a citiation is needed. However in this case, there was an asserted fact, the time it takes to load a rifle, that is contradicted by both reliable public references and my own experience (which doesn't matter to Wikipedia, but made me notice it). The historian Fred Anderson, in his book The Crucible of War, writes of exceptionally well-trained troops in the 1750s being able to fire their muzzle-loading rifles at a rate of 3 times per minute. Breech-loading rifles were invented 30 years later and became common 60 years later, by the time of the later Indian Wars; they were even faster to reload.

* finally, it was poorly written, in my opinion. For example, I don't understand this sentence at all: But if it were a bow and arrow many could be sent, regardless of aim, and when someone got hit, everyone could flee. Generally, when I see something that was poorly written (in my opinion), I try to rewrite it; however in this case, with all the other issues, I thought reversion was the best course of action.

Please realize, when someone reverts an edit, the material isn't totally deleted. Wikipedia (normally) keeps a history of all changes. You can still see your words by clicking this link (or by clicking on the history link of any page and picking 2 versions to compare). You can certainly attempt to rewrite your submission in accordance with Wikipedia policy; I'm all for anything that makes Wikipedia better. --studerby 23:52, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reorg of the elephant article

Good work reorganizing the elephant article. One of the more nuanced criticisms I've read recently of Wikipedia is that editors often will approach sections one by one, without paying attention to the structure of the article as a whole; it's good to see editors with the flow and order of the entire articles in mind. Cheers, JDoorjam Talk 19:56, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome!

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[edit] WikiCookie

for your behind-the-scenes tagging of articles with the WPBiography project banner, thanks! plange 06:19, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for removing the vandalism from my user page. Scarletspeed7 23:54, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for Pavel Dybenko

Thank you for Pavel Dybenko.

Now, your CONTENT remarks will be appreciated

AbuAmir 12:20, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Walt Disney

Hi, Studerby. Could I ask why you reverted Smackbot's changes to Walt Disney? Thanks! Powers ^T 15:03, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

ISBN formatting is fairly minor; whether Smackbot formats them again is dependent on how it's programmed. I may do it myself, shouldn't be hard. Powers ^T 15:16, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the IP whose edits you were trying to revert reverted itself, so that's why it's showing that the page has the correct content. So all I had to do was revert to Smackbot's version. Powers ^T 15:29, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Oooh, good catch. I was dumb for assuming who you were trying to revert. =) It's all fixed now. Powers ^T 15:37, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name

Hello Studerby. I see you removed a link to a name generator as spam on Name. I genuinely think it could be of use to users of that page and is not intended to be spam. I've therefore replaced the link but if you still feel it is inappropriate feel free to remove it and I won't add it again. Thanks 125.203.198.83 01:12, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edits to the articles in the "Pederasts" category

May I ask why you decided to purge that category of those various articles? Haiduc 02:06, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Some of those cats were obsolete, in that the articles had changed yet no one got around to removing the cat. Others are appropriate. I'll restore what makes sense. Regards, Haiduc 04:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Republic of China (Taiwan)

I appreciated your intervention in the debate on the "Middle Kingdom" very much. I wonder if you could have a look at our discussion whether the name Republic of China (Taiwan) can be used at all in the heading of the article on China. Some participants seem to argue that only the name used in the constitution of the ROC can be used in the heading of article and that any reference to the ROC (Taiwan) - which is the name the government of Taiwan currently uses - constitutes POV and should be deleted. Several edits and counteredits have taken place already. I find the deletions of ROC (Taiwan) pedantic and stumblingly close to sanctioning the offical policy of the People's Republic of China. I think that it is wiser to have an inclusive approach and include both ROC and ROC (Taiwan) in the first paragraph, with an explanation if necessary. I want to call your attention to the fact that a compromise proposal has been withdrawn by one of the participants in the discussion, which is curious. --Niohe 02:39, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Biography Newsletter September 2006

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[edit] Mary Cassatt

Hello, I was wondering why a link i added to the Mary Cassatt article was removed. It was a link to a very thorough biography on the artist. I have gone ahead and put it back up. the link for Mary Cassatt at WebMuseum is still up and that essay is no where near as thorough as the link i found. So i guess my general question is how come you removed a very useful link, yet did not edit a poor one? I appreciate your and Wikipedia's efforts to maintain a scholarly project and was just trying to help. let me know if the main article is the right place for the link or somewhere else as i feel that it is immensly helpful. thank you.Tylercos 00:04, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External links

Please see my discussion on the talk page for Albert Bierstadt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Albert_Bierstadt). There seem to be continual battles regarding external links. Of the three on the Bierstadt article, I feel only mine can be justified as enhancing the article. I feel links to commercial art galleries are inappropriate. I feel links to single museums are inappropriate. I would like to have a real discussion of this, so I chose the Bierstandt article. Please add comments there and give your feedback. Thanks. JJ 13:56, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I am still looking for a discussion on this topic. JJ 14:02, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Helping out with the Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies

Seeing that you are an active member of the WikiBiography Project, I was wondering if you would help lend a hand in helping us clear out the amount of [unassessed articles] tagged with {{WPBiography}}. Many of them are of stub and start class, but a few are of B or A caliber. Getting a simple assessment rating can help us start moving many of these biographies to a higher quality article. Thank you! --Ozgod 22:49, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject Biography March 2007 Newsletter

The March 2007 issue of the Biography WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Mocko13 22:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC)