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Contents 1 April 5 1.1 Bigfoot 1.2 IP address appears on Talk Page despite signing in. 1.3 Cannot edit without leaving IP address -- after successful login "not currently logged in" on edit page 1.4 How to Edit Wikipedia 1.5 New WikiProject 1.6 Removing edit links on headers/sections 1.7 Wikipedia messageboxes 1.8 Regarding the orange "You have new messages" 1.9 Previewing 1.10 ? 1.11 Creating a Page 1.12 Question about + and - numbers on my Watch page. 1.13 Can't get edit to work on this page 1.14 CNN article 1.15 Really confusing 1.16 Creating links 1.17 Category: Edit Problem 1.18 about translation 1.19 Link 1.20 question on referencing 1.21 posting a new article 1.22 Unfairness 1.23 What is the tag for a page violating verifiability rule? 1.24 Too many templates? 1.25 Credibility of references 1.26 inject valium 1.27 Finding a particular user's edits to a particular page 1.28 Info Box - Article "Cosmos Sports" 1.29 Creating you own image 1.30 Megatech Software & Megatech Games 1.31 Anyone else having trouble accessing your watchlist? 1.32 Writing an article about a relative 1.33 How to mark an image, if a vector-based format would be more appropriate? 2 April 6 2.1 What happened to the article for The Big Idea? 2.2 HTML colours 2.3 Can't stay logged in 2.4 rollback? 2.5 Logging in changes the layout/theme of entire site 2.6 Creating new pages 2.7 electronics 2.8 creating protected pages 2.9 mechanical engg 2.10 List of arbitrated cases 2.11 mechanical engg 2.12 Edits in deleted articles 2.13 Question 2.14 Userpage 2.15 how to upload a project 2.16 editing a hyperlink 2.17 Calling an article a stub 2.18 Translating articles 2.19 Password retrival 2.20 User CSS to alter tabs 2.21 Green man info 2.22 Display on Google 2.23 Reverting an image? 3 April 7 3.1 Watchlist lag 3.2 Spammy Edits 3.3 Interwiki order 3.4 making my own page 3.5 Clay Faulkner Home listing 3.6 Picture of the day 3.7 Table help 3.8 Downloading Database 3.9 How Come My Link To Bridgette Monet Was Deleted? 3.10 Sexual abuse 3.11 I posted an article and it doesn't appear on other computers 3.12 Clearing history 3.13 Vandalism on talk pages 3.14 'Semi-Protected' chart on 'Iraq War' and 'Multinational Force in Iraq' pages 3.15 How to add a link 3.16 Didn't "Spam" But Got Deleted 3.17 Hobart talk page 3.18 Thanks For Your Reply, but how do you change it? 3.19 Citation template for magazine. 3.20 Popups 3.21 Gary Catona 3.22 Not found 3.23 Draft? 3.24 Help Desk mess 3.25 Pictures 3.26 Report problem 4 April 8 4.1 How do I add automatic edit summaries manually? 4.2 Bureaucrat? 4.3 TJ Wilson 4.4 posting maps 4.5 a wrong link about Mossadegh in Persian wikipedia 4.6 Icelandic short stories 4.7 Infobox + pic... = what? 4.8 MOBILE VER. 4.9 Sorting on tables 4.10 How do I place a locater dot on a map? 4.11 how can i see the map of india and its states from this site 4.12 Looking for a succession box 4.13 Purging 4.14 surname 4.15 uss bullhead (submarine) 4.16 uss bullhead (submarine) 4.17 Pam Pinnock image deletion 4.18 Search History 4.19 the amazing race- A corrida Milionaria

[edit] April 5

[edit] Bigfoot

The topic Bigfoot has erroneous information in it, but is 'Semi-Protected'. How do I go about correcting it?

• You wait four days. Click the "disabled" link in the {{semiprotect}} template at the top of the Bigfoot article to read about the protection policies. --Teratornis 00:30, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

On the page Jane Goodall is quoted as saying 'Well, I'm a romantic, so I always wanted them to exist. . . . Of course, the big, the big criticism of all this is, 'Where is the body?' You know, why isn't there a body? I can't answer that, and maybe they don't exist, but I want them to'. This quote is taken completely out of context and implies the exact opposite of Ms. Goodall's comments.

Dr. Goodall: Well now, you'll be amazed when I tell you that I'm sure that they exist... I've talked to so many Native Americans who all describe the same sounds, two who have seen them. I've probably got about, oh, thirty books that have come from different parts of the world, from China from, from all over the place, and there was a little tiny snippet in the newspaper just last week which says that British scientists have found what they believed to be a yeti hair and that the scientists in the Natural History Museum in London couldn't identify it as any known animal ... They don't match up with DNA cells from known animals, so -- apes.

Please check the footnote indicated on the Bigfoot page (BFRO.net (2006). Transcript of Dr Jane Goodall's comments on NPR regarding Sasquatch.)Rjbudz 00:12, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] IP address appears on Talk Page despite signing in.

help for the talk page editing feature says I should "log in" to prevent my IP address appearing and substitute my username. Is "log in" different than "sign in"? I signed in MULTIPLE TIMES and still see the IP address on the talk page.

I would prefer to edit with anonymity.

How am I going to get a reply?

Signatures are there when you sign, they will not dynamically change because you signed in. Editing out your old signature and resigning should fix it. -Wooty Woot? contribs 00:45, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I signed in first on several subsequent retries, same problem with IP address appearing when it should not.67.142.130.25 00:53, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

You don't understand, you need to remove your old signature and edit in a new one using four tildes. not just sign in again. -Wooty Woot? contribs 01:35, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cannot edit without leaving IP address -- after successful login "not currently logged in" on edit page

I just logged in successfully but, even now, I can see at the top of this page "You are not currently logged in". Very frustrating.67.142.130.25 01:05, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

That's weird...--$UIT 01:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

It sounds as though your browser isn't storing session information or cookies properly. Try this:

If you use Firefox, open the Tools menu and select "Options...". Go to Privacy and make sure that Firefox is accepting cookies and keeping them until they expire or Firefox closes. Check the Exceptions list to make sure en.wikipedia.org isn't accidentally blacklisted.

If you use IE, open the Tools menu and select "Internet Options". Go to Privacy and click the "Advanced" button. Select "Override automatic cookie handling", "Accept First-Party Cookies", and "Always allow session cookies". Click OK and apply the settings. Your browser may start whining that your new security settings put your computer at risk - IE 7 is overly paranoid. As long as you use common sense, you should be fine.

If that doesn't work, try searching [1] to see if this is a known problem with our system. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 01:43, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

If you're on a satellite ISP, this problem comes up sometimes; in such a case, try the (slower) alternative login. --ais523 11:36, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How to Edit Wikipedia

How do you edit something in wikipedia. For example, if I was searching...crayons and it said they were made in 1954, how can i edit that and change it to the right date?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Robot Kissez (talk • contribs).

Just hit the "Edit this page" bar at the top of the page. (for Crayon you can click [here].) For more information see Wikipedia:Introduction. --Ybbor^TalkSurvey! 01:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Please make sure you have a reliable source to back up to whatever you're changing it to. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:09, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New WikiProject

I've started a new WikiProject on Foreign relations. You can see it on WP:WPFR. You're all welcome to edit it's page as you see fit and add yourselves to the participants list if you'd like.--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 01:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removing edit links on headers/sections

Can it be done with something like NOTOC? -Wooty Woot? contribs 02:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• You want NOEDITSECTION -- see Wikipedia:Magic words - Mgm|^(talk) 09:07, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia messageboxes

I couldn't find a directory for all the messageboxes that I see constantly on Wikipedia. For example: This project is proposed to merge with this project; just as an example. All I could find were messageboxes for Books. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong page. Could you help me out?Lighthead 04:01, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Template messages. DES ^(talk) 05:03, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding the orange "You have new messages"

Whenever you post warnings to an IP address talk page, the bar dosen't show up. The IP I posted to was a static IP and it was not shared. I know that the bar is suppossed to show up but it dosen't. PS this is at a friends house who decided to "test" out WIkipeidia. 71.112.252.8 04:23, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I have noticed this problem too. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_user_warnings#Do_Warnings_show_up_on_anonymous_IPs.3F for more details. Basically this problem affects many IP users such as you. The problem still has not been fixed yet. -- _Hdt83 ^Chat 06:01, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, its strange, the orange bar shows up but now its stuck up there! I tried clearing the temp. cache and browsing to diffrent pages but now its like stuck up there. Now whats wrong? 71.112.252.8 06:13, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

It's been a problem for a few months now, there have been several bug reports filed, but as of yet, there is still no solution other than waiting, if you wait a few hours/days the orange bar might go away, in the meantime you'll just have to learn to ignore it--VectorPotential^Talk 23:23, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Previewing

Don't know whether this is the case for anyone else, but lately for me the "show preview" button hasn't been working? After I click it, the page just refreshes back to the edit window... so it's a bit of a pain when I'm working with things like templates and aren't sure if things'll work. Has this been happening with anyone else, and does anyone have any ideas on how to fix it? Cheers- CattleGirl ^{talk | sign!} 05:52, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Can you give an example of an article where it happened? It's supposed to go back to an edit screen, but the edit also supposed to show above it. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:03, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Any article lately, but specifically most recently- Template:WPPATD and Romney (sheep), to name a few. After pressing the "show preview" button and the page refreshing, the only difference is that it has the preview of the edit summary under the edit window, as it should, but nothing else. CattleGirl ^{talk | sign!} 10:48, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

You seem to be using navigation popups, which have been known to cause unusual problems with previews before. Does the problem go away if you disable popups? --ais523 10:55, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I just blanked my monobook js, but still no preview. CattleGirl ^{talk | sign!} 11:08, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

What about if you bypass your cache, with your monobook still blank? --ais523 11:17, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I refreshed the page after blanking it, and then tried a preview on my sandbox. CattleGirl ^{talk | sign!} 11:21, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure what the problem might be then. Does it persist when logged out? Does it persist on another MediaWiki wiki? --ais523 11:30, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Logged out the preview function works, but I don't have an account on another wiki, so... CattleGirl ^{talk | sign!} 11:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm somewhat confused as to what could be causing it then. Are you sure you've done a full cache bypass, rather than just a refresh on your monobook.js (press Ctrl-F5 on IE or Firefox on Windows, or see the page I linked for other browser/OS configurations)? --ais523 11:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I've definitely done a full bypass, and the preview still doesn't work... I'm not too fussed, most of my edits don't need the preview function just the occasional template or image, but I wanted to know how to fix it. I take it you're not getting this problem either? CattleGirl ^{talk | sign!} 11:50, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not getting the problem, and I have no idea what's causing it. You might want to mention what's happening on WP:VPT, where any people who might know the answer are more likely to notice the question. --ais523 11:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I will. CattleGirl ^{talk | sign!} 02:10, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ?

What happen to Auris .06:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC)88.239.37.122Á

The page Auris was redirected to the page Toyota Auris on March 10. If you search for "Auris", Wikipedia will bring you to the page "Toyota Auris" instead, since we assume that's what you were looking for.

If that's not what you were looking for, let us know and we'll see if we can create an article about your subject. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 15:06, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Creating a Page

I would like to create a page titled "Carahunge" with the following introduction:

QUOTE

This material for Internet is taken from the well-known book “ARMENIANS AND OLD ARMENIA”, by Prof. Paris M. Herouni (Armenia) and included the PART 1 of the book: CARAHUNGE – THE PREHISTORIC WONDER IN ARMENNIA PART 1

CARAHUNGE – THE PREHISTORIC WONDER IN ARMENNIA

                                                                                    “Per Apera ad Astra”
                                                                           (“Through Difficulties to Stars”)

In Armennia, near town Sisian (200 km from Yerevan, capital of Armenia) there is the prehistoric Monument, consisting of hundreds large standing Stones (Fig. 1). Many of these Stones contain holes running through their upper part (Fig. 2). Archaeological excavation had been carried out only near (around) the Monument, where ancient sepulchres and a settlement dated III-II millenium BC were discovered [1 - 4]. But the Stone Monument itself was not investigated. There have only been just assumptions about these Stones containing likely religious [1], spiritual [2] or other significances. Local residents of Sisian call the Monument “Standing Stones” or “Protruding Stones” and tell that it was built presumably for religious or fortification purposes and also that old people were looking at stars through the holes. The first supposition about eventual astronomical function of the Monument (along with other surmises) was published by archaeologist O.Khnkikian in 1984 [4].

UNQUOTE

I am authorized by the author of the above mentioned book to place the relevant text and pictures (original files provided by the author; Prof. Paris M. Herouni) under the title "Carahunge" in Wikipedia. I have tried to do so but confronted many complexities specially with respect to uploading pictures. I need an expert advise that how should I proceed in order to establish this very useful page consisting of about 54 A4 sheets.

Thanks, 08:52, 5 April 2007 (UTC)~ Hovik Mirzakhanians

• If you have permission from the professor to post this, we'd need him to email permissions AT wikimedia DOT org as proof from an email address that is recognizeable as his to prove it's not a copyright violation. An easier way would be to take the facts from the text and rewrite them in your own words taken an article like Stonehenge as an example of how it should be written. If you do that and cite the book as your source, there's no problem. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Another reason to rewrite in your own words is that Wikipedia articles are open to improvement by anyone. When an article comprises a large quote, it is difficult for editors to work on the article. In fact, editors are likely to do the rewrite for you if you do post it in that form, so going to all that copyright trouble is just not worth it. Notinasnaid 09:09, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Note also that text and pictures must be released for all uses without restriction except a credit, unless a suitable free license. Release for use in Wikipedia is no use at all, because Wikipedia is a seed for many other projects, some of them commercial. Notinasnaid 09:10, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question about + and - numbers on my Watch page.

Hey guys, sorry to bother but searched for quite a while and couldn't find the answer... and its annoying me. What to the number's following pluses and minuses mean on my watch page?

For example, currently the page for "seven sisters" (Moscow skyscrapers) is displaying a red -13. The page for Ronald Reagan is displaying a red -1.

Can you decode it for me? Thanks :)

Natebjones 10:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

It's the number of bytes by which that change changed the page. For instance, if you had the Help Desk watchlisted and saw this answer on your watchlist, you'd get a positive number (probably a few hundred) because I've added some text in answer to your question. If I were fixing a typo, the number would be small or near zero (although this isn't necessarily an indication that the edit is small; it might have removed lots of text and then added a similar amount!), and if I had blanked or archived the Help Desk and you were watching it, the number would likely be minus 100000 or thereabouts. (Numbers in bold correspond to large removals.) --ais523 10:58, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

(By the way, I checked that edit, it was +768). --ais523 10:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

If you have a look at this page, you can remove or change the format of the numbers using your CSS page. Instructions are in the link. Cheers- CattleGirl ^{talk | sign!} 11:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

ok now I can type here. Thanks! Dont know what was wrong (Maybe Cattlegirl was typing) Anyways, thanks alot Natebjones 11:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Can't get edit to work on this page

Just wanted to say thanks for clarifying the watch page question (see above) but when I click edit, it takes me to the post above.

An error on my end I'm sure.

Natebjones 11:17, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

There is more than one reason why this could happen; in this case, it's most likely because someone added a section above the one you wanted to edit between you loading the Help desk and you clicking on the 'edit' link. If the problem persists, click on this link to synchronize the contents of the Help Desk in your browser with Wikipedia's version of what they should be. --ais523 11:28, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CNN article

I was a primary anchor person on CNN from November, 1980 through 2001, yet I am not listed among "past CNN personalities." I am writing to ask why I am not listed. Thank you,

Bob Cain 70.170.35.181 11:25, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

If you have a source for this fact (it should be pretty easy to find one in this case), feel free to add yourself to the list by editing the page. See the Introduction for help on how to edit. --ais523 11:28, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• If no one listed, it's usually because no one came around to it yet. Everything here is done by volunteers and we can't list everything and everyone at once. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:46, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Really confusing

I am REALLY CONFUSED. Look at this diff. Scroll down a bit and you'll see loads of apparently meaningless "Bard's Beard" links. Yet look at the diffs for the individual edits covered by that diff, and all you see are normal, good-faith edits to the page. Am I missing something really obvious? Can someone explain &/or fix &/or tell me why I'm being stupid? AndyJones 12:46, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

That is strange. When I look at the article, the only link to "Bard's Beard" is at the end of the article. I'll look over the source for the page to see if they are hidden there. --LuigiManiac 12:56, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Checked the source code, and they aren't there either. This is really weird. Could it be an error in the diff? --LuigiManiac 13:01, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

It wouldn't be the first, or last, weird glitch to occur, though they are not commonplace. I can't see any obvious explanation for this instance either. The only thing that I could think of is that a template may have been vandalised. That can make the vandalism appear on the page, but not in the edit window. But there's no template code adjacent to the links. Adrian M. H. 14:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one to be confused by it! The page looks OK, so I guess we'll just ignore it. AndyJones 21:07, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Looks like a similar occurance happened again. --Ybbor^TalkSurvey! 02:19, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

• Odd. I've mentioned this at VP(Technical) to see if anyone there has an opinion. AndyJones 15:19, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone know what that is? Is the edit history suggesting that I was the source of the vandalism? The edit history does show an edit that I actually made, but it also shows several insertions of text that I did not make. How could that happen? Marco polo 01:50, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Creating links

I want to know how I create a link from names, etc, in my article. I am a new user-contributor to Wikipedia. I wish to replace an existing article with a revision. I have the author's permission to do so. Thanks.Paulwigmore 12:52, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• I think we need to take a step back to give you specific advice. What is the article? And can you give one example of a name you want to link? And who is the author you contacted - a Wikipedia user, or a person in real life? Notinasnaid 13:35, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

The article is The Jubilate Group. Example of one name: Michael Baughen. The person who created this article is unknown. The person who has authorised me to make the edit is Mr David Iliff, a Director of The Jubilate Group.Paulwigmore 13:46, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, if you click Edit on the Jubilate Group article you will see that there is [[Michael Baughen]]. This is how a link is made: two square brackets. The link will appear blue if an article exists, and red if it does not. When you click edit you will see other things in the article like categories and other markers. It's important to keep them, so take care if pasting in a new article that all of the funny looking Wikipedia stuff is preserved.

I feel I need to mention one other thing: Wikipedia articles do not belong to the people or organisations they are written about. Any Wikipedia editor may edit any article (subject to following rules about objectivity etc.) Indeed, the subject of an article, and people connected to organisations that articles are about, are strongly encouraged not to edit articles, because it's so difficult to be objective about onesself. I hope this helps, Notinasnaid 13:53, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category: Edit Problem

I cannot seem to edit the contents of "Category: Hamilton Bulldogs players", or "Hamilton Bulldogs players 1996-2002". The players statistics need to be combined and I am trying to do it, but cannot seem to access the players. Suggestions (previous inquiry) that these categories don't exist, is incorrect.

Thanks for the help

Chesterfield99 13:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Can you please provide a link to the category (Hamilton Bulldogs players 1996-2002)? I'm having a hard time finding it. I don't know if I will be able to do the merge, but it will help whoever can do the merge. --LuigiManiac 13:41, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I found this, but not an article. x42bn6 Talk 13:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

So, let me get this straight. You want this category depopulated, and all the pages in it to just be in the Hamilton Bulldogs players category? Isn't there some sort of process we have to go through before we do this? --LuigiManiac 14:10, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

This is the link below...I dont know the process, I just know that the Bulldogs players from 1996-Present are all on the same team/same organization and should be consolodated, and I cannot seem to access the players - this is the link to the current players - there is another similar site with 1996-2002 players.

Category:Hamilton Bulldogs players

Thanks

Chesterfield99 14:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• It isn't clear to me what you mean by "can't access the players". You should be able to edit the article for each player, unless they are protected, to change their categories. Notinasnaid 18:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• The players cannot be changed - their stastics need to be merged and they are somehow blocked from editing.

Chesterfield99 19:55, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Here's the link:

Category:Hamilton Bulldogs players Chesterfield99 19:58, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I picked the first player in both categories, Bobby Allen. That article doesn't seem to be locked. I wonder though... is the problem that you aren't trying to do this by editing the player's pages, but somehow by editing the category pages? Notinasnaid 20:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

By the way, if you want (as in this question) to link to a category, just put an extra colon in so that instead of [[Category:something]] which puts the page in the category, use [[:Category:something]] which links to the category page. Don't forget to formally nominate the category for deletion, removing all the players won't do that, and shouldn't in fact be done without the nomination, I think, though it seems a clear cut case. Notinasnaid 20:10, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help I have been able to merge the Bulldogs players into one general file

Chesterfield99 17:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] about translation

Hey How do I translate a subject if I press "edit this page" I stay on the same page with the same language ... and I don't think I should wirte a new article cause it already exists I just want to translate it to another language !

Genocided 13:41, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

If you translate an article into a different language on the English Wikipedia, it will get deleted. You can transfer the article to other Wikipedias, such as the French Wikipedia or the German Wikipedia with its corresponding article title, and work on it there. If you want to translate a page that is (wrongly) in a different language, you will have to move the page to its new article, where I suspect you wish to do. New accounts cannot move pages because it is an action vandals can use and normal users cannot revert, so if you give us the article name, one of us can move it for you, or head over to Wikipedia:Requested moves. Also, don't place your email here, it gets harvested very quickly. x42bn6 Talk 13:53, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Link

Why is it that when I place the external link [2] on the wikipedia page titled rohs does it disappear after a short amount of time? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

A user is removing the link because it looks like spam, advertising products for testing. See [3]. (For those not in the know, the article is RoHS.) x42bn6 Talk 13:55, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] question on referencing

There is a talk going on Newly industrialized country page. There is a list of countries there claimed as NICs without direct refrenece. One wikipedian claims s/he got them from different pages of 3 different books which are mentioned at the end of article. But s/he is not willing to give the number of pages s/he got such a table/list from. I think it is a basic rule in refrenecing that you need to give the exact page number when you want to give a list of countries (Verifiable/OR policy) but s/he insists just giving the name of those books at the end of article is enough refrence for whole page. Would you please clarify?Farmanesh 15:09, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

That has nothing to do with the talk. You first tag the list as OR, without paying attention to the references, two books. Then, when you realized the list was referenced, ingored it and continued to tag it as OR, even if OR only occurs when a claim cannot be sourced, this is not the case. Then, when you understood the list was not OR, you showed unwillingness to go to your library and read the books. You want the editors to give the exact page. You're not assuming good faith, you're almost telling they are lying. However, the references are there, OR is non existent. The only remaining matter is, read the book and add the pages, that's all. I cannot provide the pages since I don't have the book in my hands right now, and when I created the table, the countries were already there, I just created the table. However, I did just add a new reference, with the number of the chapther and all. Now, it is up to you to go and read the book. AlexCov ^{( Let's talk! )} 15:25, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the personal attacks and assumptions about me. Anyhow the mentioned list as stands now doesn't have direct refernece and lacks Verifiabelity. You need to provide the exact page(s) you got the list of countries from or it is not verifiable. We had this disscusion in the talk page so lets see what others think.

Do you need to mention page numbers in the refenerce to make it verifiable or not?Farmanesh 15:30, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

No, you don't need. Just giving the book and the ISBN should be sufficient. With that information, any willing person can look for the book and read it. As a side note, I did not add those references. However, I did read them, in order to learn about the topic. I asummed good faith. However, I just added a third reference, and to "save your time", I added the title, the chapter, the page number and the ISBN. AlexCov ^{( Let's talk! )} 15:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I disagree; referencing in Wikipedia is not just about listing some books at the end. You can get away with this in a short article with only one reference, but not a complex subject. Each separate fact presented should be separately sourced, cited, with a page number. Notinasnaid 15:53, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for you opinion. I did not added the first two references, so I can't provide the page numbers. I added, minutes ago, a new reference, with chapter and page number. However, the article is not that long, as it is under development. AlexCov ^{( Let's talk! )} 16:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] posting a new article

How do you post a new article on Wikipedia?

thanks

MelHA 15:17, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Starting a new page. Your account will need to be at least four days old in order to make a new article. Never mind, I was thinking of something else. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 16:28, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unfairness

I have had it with User:Metros232! he is being EXTREAMLY unfair! He removed all my questions and ideas i posted on talk pages! He had no reason but, He did not like it! I want someone to tell him to stop picking on me and my edits! Please!--Tatshro Satou 16:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Replied on user talk. --tjstrf talk 16:17, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What is the tag for a page violating verifiability rule?

What is the tag for a page violating verifiability rule? I know OR inside {} as a tag for OR violation, what is the one for verifiability policy violation?Farmanesh 16:18, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

If a page is unverifiable, it must be (I assume) because it does not have references, or the references to not verify the facts. If there are no references at all or they don't do much for the content, use {{unreferenced}}. Notinasnaid 16:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Or you could use {{not verified}}. --LuigiManiac 16:23, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your opinions guys. As you said, if there are no references at all, a claim is unsourced or unverified. But this is not the case. There are two references (book title, author, edition, year of publishing, ISBN, just not the page number), and I added a new one with all that data included. AlexCov ^{( Let's talk! )} 16:34, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Please don't forget to make a distinction between unverifiable and unverified. The first is a reason for deletion, the second can be resolved using cleanup. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Too many templates?

I've run into a problem with the "player" template (i.e., 34 David Ortiz) in an article I'm working on. I'm currently working on improving a certain article on a user subpage, and the template seems to be going haywire at a certain point. Please check out User:Masonpatriot/Red Sox Roster to see what I mean. Any help is appreciated!! - Masonpatriot 17:28, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Yep, you've hit the template limit. It could be resolved but it looks like it would take some work. I've looked at that template ({{Player}}) and it looks like it calls the template {{flagicon}} which in turns calls another template (for instance {{Country data USA}}). So for every instance you use that template on the page, its actually called three templates. So take the number of times that template is used on that page (roughly 1,100 times) and multiply that times three and thats how many templates are on that page. If you can somehow combine even two of those three templates, it should help significantly.↔NMajdan•talk 19:37, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Credibility of references

I have read the wikipedia guidlines, but I am still unsure of this.

These three links: [4], [5] & [6], are used as references numerous times on the Psilocybin mushrooms article. These web sites do not cite any sources as to the effects of the mushrooms, but rather just lists all the effects. Is this considered orgional research, or otherwise considered unrealible? Thanks. —Christopher Mann McKay 17:53, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• No, it's not original research. That has a very specific meaning in Wikipedia and this isn't it. Whether they are otherwise unreliable, I don't know I know nothing about mushrooms. You could check their information against sources you know to be reliable to see if you can find any errors that make you wary of their judgement. My opinion:

1. http://www.erowid.org/general/about/ "We work with academic, medical, and experiential experts" sounds pretty reliable.
2. http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/aboutus.htm "TGDG began life as a drug section on the lifestyle e-zine seethru.co.uk, the interactive arm of a BBC / World Productions drama series, Attachments, broadcast between October 2000 and April 2002." They may be politically biased as the page makes clear, but pretty reliable where medical info is concerned.
3. I'm less certain about Shroomery, but the recommended reading section seems to indicate they're serious about the site.
I'd consider all of them more or less reliable. The only way to draw them into question would be to prove they provide misinformation. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] inject valium

my 10 mg tabs have lost there effect. i bought some insulin syringes, can i crush the pills mix with water and shoot it for better effect?69.243.29.158

• Wikipedia does not give medical advice. Please consult a real doctor. WilyD 17:56, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• No you can't. 1) You don't know it will have a better effect and if you don't crush properly the syringe could get clogged and you'd should air into your veins. Don't experiment with medication. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Finding a particular user's edits to a particular page

How can I find the edits by a particular user to a particular page? For instance, I would like to find my contributions to Wikipedia:Good article candidates. The page has a massive history, so going through it all would be very tedious. I know that the "User contributions page" can be filtered by Namespace. How can I filter it further, down to just a single page? Thanks! Johntex\^talk 18:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC),

There isn't a feature for this per se, but you can go to either the user's contributions page or the edit history for that page, set the edits to the page to display 500 per page, and use your browser's page search function to search for either the page or the user in question respectively, which would achieve about the same result. Nihiltres 18:33, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

By editing the URL, rather than using the link, i think you can display up to 5000 history items at once. DES ^(talk) 18:40, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

If you do as DES suggests, you would be able to use your browser's Find command to search for and highlight instances of the page's title, which would make it easier to spot them. Adrian M. H. 20:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Talk to User:Ais523. He/she has a script that automatically highlights your username which is especially handy to spot your edits in an article history page. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:43, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Hello everyone, thanks for the good sugestions. I notice that Interot's edit counter comes up with a tally for the most-frequently editted pages for the user.[7] I also notice that a similar list is now being appended to all RfA's.[8] I will see if I can learn whether one of those scripts could be modified to take two arguments: one for username and the other for pagename. Best, Johntex\^talk 21:25, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Info Box - Article "Cosmos Sports"

I was just wondering how to make a customized info box with the cosmos sports logo, the year the company was founded, the number of clients served, the owner of the company and a list of the company's divisions. If anyone knows how to do this could you please display the language or edit the page on my behalf. I have tried to use template infoboxes but if I change the titles listed they do not display properly.

Thanks.

Smosey 20:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Just copy and paste the code from a similar infobox, changing/adding/deleting fields as required. Use Help:Infobox to guide you. Infobox templates are mostly quite straightforward. Don't forget to include the template fields in pre tags, so that users can just copy it straight off the page. Adrian M. H. 21:28, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Creating you own image

I saw this image on a friends page Image:The Hybrid.JPG and I was wondering how I would create a custom image for myself. & yes, I know exactly how to upload images. — Razorclaw 20:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

In that case, you just have to use software to create the image, upload it, and insert it onto the page you'd like to have it on. Bjelleklang - talk Bug Me 21:06, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah I see, what software? Maybe I can ask the user who made his to make me one also... — Razorclaw 21:12, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I strongly suspect you could use GIMP. --Teratornis 15:23, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Megatech Software & Megatech Games

These pages have accidentally been combined into one with deleting information from the Megatech Games page. Both of the information should be combined into Megatech Games and the information should be combined.

What exactly do you mean? As far as I can tell, there has never been a Megatech Games article. Also, you should provide some evidence that Megatech Software was a notable company and at least get some sources to verify the information in the article. Saying things like "Nothing is known about how the games were licensed or Megatech's motives as a company. Megatech folded sometime in between 1997 and 1999." makes it seem like the company is not notable, which may get it deleted. See WP:CORP for more details. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 21:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anyone else having trouble accessing your watchlist?

ZMine keeps timing out, but I can navigate around everywhere else fine. Viridae^Talk 23:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm having trouble too!!! I can navigate WP just fine, though...Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 23:07, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Me too. It says it is a HTTP 500 "internal server error", so I guess it is going to be fixed soon.Rjgodoy 23:19, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Go to WP:VPT. There should be a discussion about that somewhere.--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 23:19, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

My watchlist just disappeared. The pages on it still show as watched, but my watchlist says I'm not watching anything. Could this be a failed fix? Brucemoko 05:10, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I came here to start a thread about this. The watchlist is back -- but it's about an hour behind, updating slowly. What's going on? DanB†DanD 05:20, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

There is a thread at Wikipedia:Village Pump (technical) for the recent problems. It is the latest thread with watchlist in the title. Also, my watchlist finally caught up, but it is too late for me (I'm on EST) and I am going to bed. Good night! --LuigiManiac 05:54, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Mine's gone now. Pacific Coast Highway ^{{talk • contribs}} 15:39, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Writing an article about a relative

I am interested in writing an article about my great uncle, and I want to know if it would be appropriate.

He was a scientist, and the student of a famous scientist about whom you have an article. In my opinion he would be an interesting subject. He died in 1955.

The article would be based on information from the family. The main points would be referenced, but there would be some small details about his life (to add colour) that would only be unpublished family knowledge.

Ideally I would like to be able to write the article in some private area, and have an expert comment on it before making it into an ordinary page. Mm67 23:12, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

The plan sounds perfect, if the subject is notable. Please also note that since WP:NOT a first-hand source, the colorful tidbits - original research - won't be accepted (WP:NOR). Also, many new users are surprised when their work is deleted per our deletion policy. Xiner (talk) 23:48, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Also, be aware of Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, which asks you to be sure sure your treatment of the subject is 100% neutral, and be ready to accept some crticism of the subject on the page. (Also, if the subject is living, be sure to look at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons.) --Ybbor^TalkSurvey! 00:17, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: writing it in a private place, you can create an article in your userspace just by adding '/article name' to your own username URL at the top of the screen when you're in your own userspace. In other words, go to your userpage, move your cursor to the end of your own URL in the address bar, type '/unclex' or whatever you want the name to be at the end of the URL, hit 'ENTER', and then just start typing and save. When you're done, you can ask for feedback, then the article can be moved to the mainspace. Anchoress 00:21, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

How does one ask for that feedback? Mm67 02:06, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

If you would like personal assistance and feedback, one option is to just keep asking on the Wikipedia:Help_desk or try WP:RFF. You can also ask an individual person for help, for other options, and for assistance in getting a draft of your article started in the "User" space. dr.ef.tymac 03:33, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How to mark an image, if a vector-based format would be more appropriate?

In particluar, I saw this image: Media:Cocaine-3D-balls.png, and thought: "Shouldn't this be an SVG instead? It would take up less bandwidth." Unfortunately, I am not skilled in computer graphics, so I can't create the vector-based version myself. However, I have sometimes stumbled over pages tagged like "This article needs a citation, please help if you can" or "This article needs attention from an expert, please help if you can" or "This page is a stub, please help if you can". Is there any template or other way which I could use to notify (CG-wise skilled) visitors, that an SVG version would be nice? 80.98.114.198 23:35, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

{{Template:ShouldBeSVG}} is probably what you want. -- Cyrius|✎ 01:17, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. Meanwhile, I realized, that on the chemical structure drawing guidelines page that currently PNG is recommended, because structure drawing programs do not support SVG yet. So, is it appropriate to flag the image in this situation? Also, when I tried to edit the image page, I received an "Article doesn't exist" message; did I do something wrong, or should I create something in order to insert the template? 80.98.114.198 13:13, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I didn't notice before, but the image in question is hosted on the Wikimedia Commons. The reason it said there was no "article" there is because it was loading everything off the other site. My reading of the guidelines in question do not discourage SVG images. You might want to poke around Commons to find out how they do the format change tagging, but it's not really a big deal. There's plenty of other images to worry about. -- Cyrius|✎ 06:12, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] April 6

[edit] What happened to the article for The Big Idea?

I remember a few months ago seeing an article about the reality TV series, The Big Idea. I tried to find it again because I wanted to see who won the show, but I got an article about Ruth Badger instead, which has a small section about the show in it. Was the article for The Big Idea deleted? I don't know why it's on Ruth Badger's page now because she wasn't very important on the show and was only one of the judges. 172.202.28.16 00:13, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I suggest reading The Big Idea page history and Talk:Ruth Badger. I have no information on the subject that is not on those pages. -- Cyrius|✎ 01:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) The Big Idea (last version) was merged into Ruth Badger on February 1 (diff). The merger proposal at Talk:Ruth Badger received no comments in 5 days and was then performed by the editor who suggested it. PrimeHunter 01:20, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Don't editors need to have a good reason to merge articles? Or at least a sensible reason? This is a bit like merging American Idol into Paula Abdul's article. Thanks for your replies though, I understand what happened now, but not why it happened. 172.202.28.16 01:44, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Appears the editor skimmed the text on Wikipedia:Merging and moving pages, because that page states:

If you are uncertain of the merger's appropriateness, you should propose it on the affected pages. After sufficient time has elapsed to generate consensus or silence (at least 5 days), you may perform the merger or request that someone else do so.

No conversation was generated at the talk page, let alone a consensus. One person doesn't make a consensus. --67.142.130.25 02:22, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• That means there's at least 3 people (including me) who would've opposed a merge if they had noticed the merge proposal. I think that makes for ample reason to undo the merge. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Presumably, the people who edited the affected pages might have something to say about a proposed merger, but they won't necessarily check the talk pages of the affected pages within the five-day period. In addition to proposing the merger on the article talk pages, the proposer should also leave a note on the user talk pages of some or all of the users who edited the affected pages, calling their attention to the discussion and inviting them to participate. I certainly don't go around checking the talk pages of every article I might have an opinion about, and I can't imagine many other people do. Sounds like time to put a suggestion on Wikipedia talk:Merging and moving pages, or at least ask why the guideline doesn't say to contact editors directly. --Teratornis 14:33, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, upon reading WP:MM, I see one part of the page contradicts a later part:

• WP:MM#How to merge pages:
  • If you are uncertain of the merger's appropriateness, you should propose it on the affected pages. After sufficient time has elapsed to generate consensus or silence (at least 5 days), you may perform the merger or request that someone else do so.
• WP:MM#Proposing a merger:
  • After proposing the merger, place your reasons on the talk page and check back in a couple of weeks for a response. You may be able to invoke a response by contacting some of the major or most-recent contributors via their respective talk-pages. If there is clear agreement after two weeks that the articles should be merged (or no response after four weeks), proceed with the merger.

Evidently WP:MM needs editing to bring the contradictory instructions in line. I will ask on its talk page for someone to clarify what the real procedure is, although the second statement above makes far more sense than the first. --Teratornis 14:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] HTML colours

What is the HTML code for a dark red colour? Also, what is the HTML code for a lime green colour? FictionH 01:04, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

See Maroon (color) and Lime (color) --antilived^{T | C | G} 01:14, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

For more information about HTML colors see HTML color names. If you want a more specific color other than the basic 16, see Web colors. --Ybbor^TalkSurvey! 01:22, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Use this website to display whatever colour you want; while it is primarily for matching, it displays the hexadecimal of your chosen colour. Note: IE only, unfortunately. Adrian M. H. 13:45, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Can't stay logged in

First off, it's a fluke that I got it to let me edit under my name. Ok, I have tried the following to try to stay logged in:

• Wipe Cookies
• Wipe Cookies and Cache
• Add en.wikipedia.org to trusted cookies list, then wipe Cookies and Cache.
• Override cookie settings with allow, allow, yes to session cookies, then then wipe Cookies and Cache.
• Wipe Cookies, Cache, manually wipe cookies and cache, and the entire TEMP folder in Local Settings.
• Reboot computer, then Wipe Cookies and Cache.

Some have resulted in allowing edits under my name, but then a few pages later I would have to mess around with it for a while before it would allow a few (6-0) pages, edits or not. I'm running 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519, with service pack 2, on Windows XP Professional. (Ha, no wonder. In coping the version, I found this: "Based on NCSA Mosaic." wait for it... "NCSA Mosaic(TM); was developed at the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign." Yeah. Explains a lot...) I am not an admin, and a .exe file blocker is installed (No, I DO NOT own this computer.) Does anyone have any ideas? (Other than "Get Firefox", cause I don't have any real privlages.) (Or safari, or opera, or AOL browser X.X, or netscape, or linux ones, or [Insert another browser here].) --Andrew Hampe Talk 01:37, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Other than trying secure.wikipedia.org, Firefox can run without registry entries/installation, google "firefox portable" :) -Wooty Woot? contribs 02:19, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

There is no secure.wikipedia.org, and i can't run any .exe s and firefox is a exe! READ BEFORE POSTING! --67.142.130.25 02:25, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I believe its secure.wikimedia.org actually, there should be a link to it near the bottom of the WP:VPT FAQ box. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 02:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

This might also help from the WP:VPT FAQ. mattbr 08:56, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Some ISPs use transparent proxies which cause problems logging in. If you find that you are automatically logged out just after you have logged in, and removing all your Wikipedia cookies does not fix the issue, try using the secure server (much slower) to bypass the proxy. This happens most often with some satellite ISPs (particularly HughesNet/DirecWay/DirecPC).

Figures, that's the exact service i use... --Andrew Hampe Talk 15:47, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] rollback?

Something weird is happening with watchlist - seems to have rolled back a few hours?? Tvoz |talk 04:41, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Same here with my watchlist. Postoak 04:46, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

good to know - I thought I was hallucinating.... Contributions is ok though. Weird. Tvoz |talk 04:51, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I have the same problem with the watchlist myself, and after having rolled back it got frozen, which means no new edits are been listed. Kazu-kun 04:51, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Hmm- mine is changing, but about eight hours behind if I'm doing the math right, showing edits that were made hours ago. Mine's up to 20:39 UTC (it's now 4:53 UTC)Tvoz |talk 04:55, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'm also looking at the edits I made 8 hours ago. Postoak 04:57, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

See WP:VP/T#The_Watchlist_Again.--VectorPotential^Talk 18:47, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Logging in changes the layout/theme of entire site

The Wikipedia site, in my opinion, looks very professional and elegant. For some reason whenever I am logged in, the site changes its looks, and it goes to a different "theme" it seems. The layout of the site changes, and the appearance is very different. I do not like the way the site looks when I am logged in.

Does this make sense, and how do I keep the site looking nice (the way it is when I'm not logged in) when I am logged in?

Thanks, --TennBikeBerk 06:36, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

You can change the appearance of the site (the skin) in your preferences. It sounds like this has been changed, so you need to change it back to the default, 'MonoBook', which you can do in the 'skins' section. Try this link if that doesn't work. Hope that helps, mattbr 08:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Also see Help:Skin. --Teratornis 18:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Creating new pages

how do i create a new page? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Quickstick003 (talk • contribs) 06:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC).

See Help:Starting a new page, and you might find this list of policies and guidelines helpful. Happy editing, mattbr 08:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] electronics

i want information about diode IN4148.wd its working59.92.197.41 11:02, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi there! This page is for people asking questions about how to use Wikipedia. However, a simple Google search found me this page: IN4148-1 dioda data sheet. Hope that helps! If not, you may want to ask at the Science reference desk for more help. — QuantumEleven 11:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] creating protected pages

I want to know how to create protected pages in order to contibute valuable sources. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ishwaramutham (talk • contribs).

That would go against the ethos of Wikipedia. You have to bear in mind that whatever anyone publishes here is (a) not under their control or ownership, (b) openly licensed under GFDL, and (c) editable by anyone. Protection is only used when an article, template, or other content has been subject to repeated vandalism. Even then, it is used judiciously and is only applied by admins upon request. Adrian M. H. 14:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] mechanical engg

actually i want to make a project based on mechanial . but i am unable to do so.please tell something about this

Is there a list of all cases (disputes among Wikipedians) that have gone to arbitration? Thanks. Mpoulshock 13:21, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of arbitrated cases

Is there a list of cases (disputes among Wikipedians) that have gone to arbitration? Thanks. Mpoulshock 13:22, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Completed requests - and its a big page, slow to load depending on your connection. KillerChihuahua^?!? 13:34, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Mpoulshock 13:37, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] mechanical engg

actually i want to make a project based on mechanical . but i am unable to do so.please tell something about this

i also want to know the concept of drawing figure in manual drawing?

Do you mean a Wikiproject? Adrian M. H. 15:25, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

There seems to be no Wikiproject specifically about mechanical engineering. The Mechanical engineering article is under WikiProject Technology, according to its talk page. For information about starting a WikiProject, see WP:PROJGUIDE. For the second question, see Technical drawing, Engineering drawing, and Computer-aided design.

If we are misinterpreting your question, please disambiguate. Exactly what do you mean by "project"? What do you mean by "unable to do so"? Did you get an error message? List the exact steps you followed, specifically enough so a distant stranger can repeat them, and the full text of any error message you received. --Teratornis 18:46, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edits in deleted articles

Hi, I've been here over a year, and one of the things I like to do is stub sort the newer articles, and often I tag some with {{afd}} or {{notability}}. With that in mind, I was wondering, if there's a way to find out if any articles I've edited have been deleted? Though I'm sure it was rightfully so, it would still be interesting to see which ones. — Jack · talk · 13:41, Friday, 6 April 2007

There's the deletion log, but your edits disappear once the article is deleted. The Evil Clown ^{my contributions} 13:52, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

If you are willing to have a long watchlist, that is a good way of checking for deletions because the links will turn red. Adrian M. H. 14:22, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Hello,

I was very interested in contributing about gemstone, seashell mosaics, etc. This was a few years ago. Today I was researching the words 'byzantine mosaic' and found a listing the includes a website address. I was told that I could not include mine. I would like to know how this happened. Thank you. Stephanie Dittrick, Email: (email removed)

Thank you for your help.

This is how it reads:

Mosaiclegs is a company that specializes in architectural mosaic design Their art studio preserves the ancient techniques of the handcrafted mosaic decorations using both byzantine smalti glass and marble. Further information can be found at http://www.mosaiclegs.com

It is correct to say that you should not create or edit an article about you, your company, your family, and so on. See COI. That does not necessarily mean that the subject is never going to be eligible for inclusion, because that is covered by Wikipedia:Notability. I cannot comment on the notability of this particular subject, since I have not yet seen the article. Adrian M. H. 14:51, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

WP:COI says:

• if you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when: ... editing articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with.

I read that to mean that as long as an editor does not let the conflict of interest cause him or her to violate Wikipedia's core principles of WP:NPOV, WP:NOR, and WP:VERIFY, the editor may write about things he or she has a personal involvement with. In practice, of course, many editors will not be able to write with the necessary restraint about topics in which they have a strong emotional investment (see many of the religion articles), but editors who can muster the necessary restraint to "exercise great caution" should go ahead and write. I think the working rule should be that a person can write about anything as long as his or her writing is indistinguishable from that of a person with no interest in promoting the topic. That builds the encylopedia faster anyway, because usually the people who know the most about a topic are involved with it in some way. Would we say we don't want any of the scientists who have investigated Global warming to write about it here? --Teratornis 15:14, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Hence my use of "should not" rather than, say, "must not". I wouldn't really expect anyone to be able to write entirely without bias in that instance, though. Some bias is natural, and some OR is likely. Adrian M. H. 15:23, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I misunderstood your "should" to be more like "must"; my apologies. I would agree that most new users and a good many experienced editors will be hard-pressed to adhere to WP:NPOV, but my understanding of WP:AGF is that we assume people are trying to help. If they write non-neutrally and don't realize they are doing something wrong, (hopefully) other editors will catch the problem and provide the necessary correction. I would expect many, if not most people who are knowledgeable about a given topic will have some sort of a personal opinion about it — humans seem to have the perverse habit of forming strong opinions before all the facts are in. Probably not many Wikipedia editors arrived here already knowing how to write neutrally on subjects they are personally non-neutral about, but every Wikipedia editor must learn to do this. I would think trying to write neutrally about one's own company or organization, and then asking for a review by other editors, would be a good way to learn more about one's subsconscious biases. --Teratornis 18:20, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I think you're right. It is an acquired skill more than a natural skill, which comes with deliberate practice, and also, there has to be a conscious desire to achieve NPOV in such cases. No apology needed, by the way; my phrasing was a bit ambiguous. Adrian M. H. 20:28, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Userpage

Hello, Is there a particular wikipedia page/s that give temnplates that one can use on ones userpage? Templates which tell the users nationality, date of birth, etc, or even, templates which can be created by the user / guides how to do this? Any help greatly apprecated thanks Tresmius 14:40, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

See WP:Userboxes --Kainaw ^(talk) 14:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

If you cannot find a suitable userbox, you can make your own and store it in a sub-page of your userspace. Adrian M. H. 14:52, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] how to upload a project

i made a project and i want to upload it how do i it's a .doc fileJoey2007 15:28, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Is this going to be used as an article, i.e. is it going to be in the mainspace such as Harry Potter or sausage? If so, just type into the search box the article you want to create, and then click on the name when no results come up, and paste your information in there. Remember to format it correctly for wikipedia. Is this what you wanted? Asics talk ^{Editor review!} 15:54, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

In future, you may find it better to use Notepad for offline composition; save it in UTF and you will keep all the special characters that are part of Wiki markup, but there is much less risk of having any formatting that won't transfer. I use that approach a lot. Adrian M. H. 16:00, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

wikEd can convert some Word features, such as tables, to wikitext. Further manual editing will almost certainly be necessary, however, to make the typical .doc file into an article conforming to WP:LAYOUT. --Teratornis 18:04, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] editing a hyperlink

How do I edit/change the partial sentences contained in a hyperlink?? Ziggyfirst 15:29, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Partial sentences? How do you mean? Adrian M. H. 15:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I would assume he means that if I'm trying to link to yahoo and type [http://yahoo.comI think this is a good site]. But because the "I" is next to the adress it sends you to the wrong place. To fix this simply insert a space after the end of the adress: [http://yahoo.com I think this is a good site]. which produces: I think this is a good site. For more informatio you can read Wikipedia:How to edit a page#Links and URLs. Hope this answers your question. --Ybbor^TalkSurvey! 16:00, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Calling an article a stub

Several articles about radio stations that I have helped edit are identified as stubs. I saw that two radio stations that I knew some information about had no articles, so I created brief articles that should be considered stubs. But I try to read the information about stubs and get completely lost.

My articles are about WIST-FM and WBLO-AM radio stations. Vchimpanzee 16:08, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I would call them stubs. If you know of a specific template - something like "this media-related article is a stub" - then use that. Otherwise, just add the standard template. Adrian M. H. 17:10, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Rule of thumb: whenever one wants to edit articles in a certain topic category, one should see if one or more WikiProjects oversee such articles. Browsing around from the WikiProjects page leads to: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Directory/Science#Telecommunications, which has an entry: Wikipedia:WikiProject Radio Stations. Wikipedia:WikiProject Radio Stations#Stubs lists some stub templates for radio station articles. --Teratornis 17:58, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I ought to have suggested that, but it didn't cross my mind, even though I participate in a number of Wikiprojects! They can be a good source of assistance to new or less experienced editors. Adrian M. H. 20:31, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I see what I want at the base of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WKQC but have no idea how to put that there. I have no idea what a "standard template" is.Vchimpanzee 18:35, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

In this case, {{stub}}--VectorPotential^Talk 18:44, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks, I got it. I saw at least part of what I needed while editing another article, and I copied it.Vchimpanzee 19:52, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

It is generally a good idea to look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types ratehr than jsut use {{stub}}. In this case, {{NorthCarolina-radio-station-stub}} looks like what you want. DES ^(talk) 20:20, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Translating articles

Hi,

My native language is Spanish, but I speak English and French too. I have experince translating documents such as handbooks, movies and others. I would like to translate some articles that have not been translated yet. What do I need to do?

Thank you,

Macogoetz 18:20, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

There is a project where users can request articles be translated. Its at Wikipedia:Translation. As you have already registered, you can start an article if you find one in another language (there is a partial list of other language Wikipedias at the bottom of the Main Page) that does not exist in English. However, since the English Wikipedia is the largest, you may be able to provide more help in another language. This page on the Spanish Wikipedia may help and this page on the French Wikipedia may be of interest. You will have to register separately in each language in order to create new articles on each Wikipedia. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 19:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Password retrival

how can you retrieve your password and username if you forget it

in Firefox Select Tools > Options > Privacy > Saved passwords > Veiw saved passwords > Show > Yes.

Don't forget to click hide before you leave Hope that helps. And please sign using ~~~~. «razorclaw» 19:34, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• If it's about your Wikipedia password. You can have a new one sent to you if you gave your email address when you signed up. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:03, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User CSS to alter tabs

Project page - Discussion - Edit this page - History - Watch

to

Home - Talk - Edit - Hist - Watch

Thanks for the help, «razorclaw» 19:38, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• See Wikipedia:Skins. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:01, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• Actually, this can't be done with CSS, it needs javascript. Here's a method by Mdd4696, of WikiProject User scripts. To change "edit this page" to "edit," add this line to User:Razorclaw/monobook.js

addOnloadHook(function(){ document.getElementById("ca-edit").firstChild.innerHTML = "edit";});

To change the other tabs, in a new line put that code and replace ca-edit with "ca-nstab-project" "ca-talk" "ca-edit" "ca-history" or "ca-watch". Replace edit with the new text. ca-nstab-project will only change tabs that currently say "Project page." If you want to change the ones that say "article" use "ca-nstab-main". You can also use "ca-nstab-image" and "ca-nstab-template". --Werdan7^{T @} 23:59, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Green man info

I have a bit of (what I consider to be relevant) information to add to an article about the Green Man. I have a picture of the largest Green Man sculpture in the world, 12 meters high to be precise. The picture was taken by me and the sculpture was made by me. Is it legit to add info like this which altho of general interest also contains personal information about myself? Thanks for any advice --Toinadams 20:05, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Has any newspaper or other reliable source covered or discussed your sculpture? If not, the information really does not belong on wiklipedia. Also, writing about one's own work can be a problem, see our conflict of interest page. A picture, if reelased under the GFDL (for example with the n{{GFDL-self}} tag), if it adds to the general article, might be worthwhile, buit that article is already fairly well illustrated. DES ^(talk) 20:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes the Sunday Times , the Independent and various other tabloid dailies - I have copies of all this editorial. It's also been documented in a couple of books altho don't have copies of those. It has become something of a landmark in Birmingham UK. I do take the point about conflict of interest hence my asking about adding the information! I guess the bit of information that might be of encyclopaedic interest is the fact that it is the biggest in the world. (http://www.steelsculpt.com/web albums/Public Commissions/greenman/slides/11.html) It doesn't have to mention my name really. Thanks--Toinadams 20:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• Yes, if newspapers covered it, it's fine to add it. Just make sure you also provide the information people need to find those newspaper mentions. See Wikipedia:Citation templates specifically {{cite news}} and ref-tags that allow you to stick those citations in with the text but appear in the reference section at the bottom of the article. If all that formatting is too complicated for you, just provide me with the information and I'll do the formatting for you. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:59, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Display on Google

Does anyone know why a subpage of mine is listed as a hit on google, but the main page of that subpage (my userpage) is displayed as a subpage in this search.? --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@(Lets go Yankees!) 22:04, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, I see that it is a redirect page, that also references your main page. It may be it shows the linked page indented because it understands the "real content" is located at the user page. (fuzzy interpretation) As for why it might pickup that page 'first', rather than the user page, could it be because the "/@" page has very little text, but the term 'TeckWiz' is repeated three times? That is, this page _must_ be a better hit because the proportion of term to text is favorable? (speculation is fun, when it's not your money) Shenme 22:38, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reverting an image?

How do I/can someone revert this image http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mk1.jpg back to the one uploaded 22 October 2006? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.92.150.232 (talk • contribs).

Ask an administrator. Real96 23:18, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• Someone already did. - Mgm|^(talk) 00:33, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Apologies for not commenting here, but I was on my way out the door, and didn't have the time. If you scroll down you'll see a link called "File history," listing the old versions of the image. Find the version you want to replace, and click the "rev" button (short for revert) next to it, to the left of the timestamp. No need to contract an administrator (unless the version you want is so old that it's deleted). --Ybbor^TalkSurvey! 02:48, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] April 7

[edit] Watchlist lag

It's 8.06pm local time, but the time shown with edits in my watchlist show up with a 25 or so minute difference, as taken place earlier. Why is this happening?Pacific Coast Highway ^{{talk • contribs}} 00:08, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

• Scroll up a few questions. It appears there's a problem with watchlists and people have asked questions before in the last few hours (perhaps days). - Mgm|^(talk) 00:34, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

• Never mind. It fixed itself. Pacific Coast Highway ^{{talk • contribs}} 02:34, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spammy Edits

I'm not sure how to deal with thisː A (very) minor but long-time music industry person (or someone working for him) is adding himself to articles on a lot of musicians. I think that ALL of his entries need to be reverted (none of them are notable incidents in the lives of the people who the articles are actually about) but I don't know how to label the edits. It's 24.30.54.146 who is doing the edits; here is his website. I could just tear everything out and mark it "not notable" but I could see that turning into some kind of revert war. Closenplay 00:16, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

• I could see how calling him "surrogate personal manager" could be a problem, but how is co-writing a song with Kurtis Blow not relevant to Blow's article; it may not have been relevant in his life, but it certainly is relevant to the song. There may be some problems, but blanket removal of all the edits doesn't seem like a good idea. They may simply be a fan who found a source and decided to add everything they found to the articles about the corresponding people. - Mgm|^(talk) 00:40, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I see your point but it appears that he's greatly exaggerating his role in these people's careers. I mean, does everyone who wrote a song with Kurtis Blow (and Garfield didn't—he helped "arrange" (along with one of Dylan's backup singers) to have Bob Dylan sing on a record with him) deserve to get mentioned in the course of an article on Kurtis Blow? And Googling "kurtis blow"+"bob dylan"+"wayne garfield" only turns up a back-up vocal credit for the album; no anectdotes about Garfield and Dylan; nothing (and Dylan fans are an obsessive bunch). There's also that there are no listed sources for the claims about this person. I suppose I could request citations but that rather seems like taking the long way around. Closenplay 01:23, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

• Newbies often forget sources, if you really want to remove it, move it to the talk page. If those fans are as obsessive as you claim and it's indeed important, they'll track down the required sources. - Mgm|^(talk) 01:32, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
• By the way, don't rely on just Google hits. I've come across several subjects where I was unable to place something in an article because information is no longer available while it used to exist. Not everyone bothers with keeping archives of online material and when they decide to cancel a website, all its contents die unless someone requested it to be in the internet archive before it happened. - Mgm|^(talk) 01:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for all of your suggestions and comments! Closenplay 10:31, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki order

I just saw someone move an interwiki link on an article I was watching, but that means the two-letter codes are no longer alphabetized (which makes finding if a link is missing significantly easier). I've seen bots and programs move these into alpabetical order as standard cleanup procedure. All I could find was a poll on the issue. Is there a basic order for interwiki links or am I just imagining things? - Mgm|^(talk) 00:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm just parroting here because I don't know the answer but I found this quote at Help:Interwiki linking#Interlanguage link:

The mutual order of interlanguage links is preserved, but otherwise the positions within the wikitext are immaterial, again the same rule as for categories. Usually they are put at the end. With section editing they appear in the preview if they are in the section being edited.

I'm not sure where this "mutual order" is set but if I'm reading this correctly, this means that changing the order makes no difference how they display on the side of the screen, so alphabetizing for organizational purposes seems like a good idea. Does that help?--Fuhghettaboutit 02:34, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

• I don't know if it's my setup specifically, but changing the order certainly makes a difference on my computer. I wonder if that interwiki help page is correct and up-to-date. It's weird it talks about a mutual order without specifying what that order is, perhaps it got deleted somewhere along the way. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:06, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] making my own page

How do I make my own page?

Joey 0:~)

• This question was answered earlier, see WP:HD#creating_own_page. - Mgm|^(talk) 00:48, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clay Faulkner Home listing

The Clay Faulkner Home in McMinnville (Faulkner Springs), Tenn., is listed in Wikipedia under sites on the National Register of Historic Places in Warren County. Faulkner named his home Falcon Rest, and it is open to the public as a historic site under that name. There is not an article about either the Clay Faulkner Home or Falcon Rest in your encyclopedia. As a part of Tennessee's heritage, it needs to be there somewhere. However, as General Manager of the property, I gather I am prohibitied from writing an article.

The approved National Register application is online at www.falconrest.com/Application.html. Could this be used?

Otherwise, how could Falcon Rest be listed without me violating your editorial policies.

Thanks for your help.

Falcon Rest 01:02, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

• I put in a few links to make sure we notice if one of the articles is created. It looks like the subject should be covered. It's perfectly okay for you to create the article if you stay away from the pitfalls most people fall in when they write articles about subjects they're heavily involved in. Don't use an overly promotional tone and don't use any peacock terms. WP:COI list more things you should keep in mind. The best way to write a good article is to read a few existing articles about historic houses or buildings in the category National Register of Historic Placesas an example. The link would work as a source, but you should also find some sources other than yourself that wrote about it. Is it covered by newspapers? Does the National Register keep their own website? Just give it a go and let me know. If anything's wrong I'll make sure it's fixed. - Mgm|^(talk) 01:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture of the day

someone replaced the picture of the day with porn.

Purged all the templates, seems to have fixed it. Can somebody please find out how this happened? The templates involved for Picture of the Day are mind-boggling... x42bn6 Talk 02:21, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I just want to verify that I saw that too (after it was pointed out here), you guys weren't hallucinating. The History of the image doesn't seem to indicate any vandlaism, I can't imagine how it happened. --Ybbor^TalkSurvey! 02:23, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

It's slightly weird. There are actually two images of porn that seem to randomly pop up after I kept purging the image, and sometimes it went back to the original image. I've purged it several times and it seems to be back to normal. Could we have a developer in here or something to explain? x42bn6 Talk 02:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

(^{Edit Conflict})Aha, The issue is with commons: [[9]]. The history indicates that [User:HatesWM2] uploaded the problematic version (many, many times). He has since been blocked. Looked like it wasn't the purging that did it after all. --Ybbor^TalkSurvey! 02:30, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Oops, I've just wasted a couple of processor cycles on the servers. x42bn6 Talk 02:34, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

How come it showed up on Main Page though? Isn't the WP image separate from the commons image? --antilived^{T | C | G} 02:36, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

No idea - can't find anything. It could be that the names are the same so it takes Commons's image over the local image? x42bn6 Talk 02:44, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

• If there's no local image here on Wikipedia, the software will look on the commons. My guess is that the image was not uploaded here before it was shown on the main page as it should. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:09, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Table help

Hi. With this table, is it possible to merge the one box that says ā with the three boxes above it, and if so, how? Tuncrypt 03:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

	Nominative		Oblique
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
Masc	o	ā
Neut	uṃ	āṃ	ā	āṃ
Fem	ī

You could try using a nested table to display those four cells. --Teratornis 05:33, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Downloading Database

I just want to ask one question,I read that there is a way to download the full article database of Uncyclopedia.

How do you go about it?03:28, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure about Uncyclopedia, but you can see about downloading full Wikipedia database dumps at WP:DUMP. //PTO {speak} 03:30, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

The answer seems to pop up in the top results of this search:

• google:download uncyclopedia database

Good luck. ("Ask not what the Help desk can Google for you, but what you can Google for the Help desk.") --Teratornis 03:57, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

In case that was too terse, Google says there is an Uncyclopedia article right here on Wikipedia that tells how to download its database. --Teratornis 04:25, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How Come My Link To Bridgette Monet Was Deleted?

John Reaves (talk) 05:00, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

There's a guy named Valrith who has been deleting my link to my group The Bridgette Monet Picture Show. Why is he doing this and can he do this? Please help! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dya91101 (talk • contribs).

The link in question seems to be here. --Teratornis 04:51, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

This removal of your link lists these reasons in the edit summary: removing inappropriate link per WP:EL, WP:SPAM, WP:RS, and WP:NOT. Read all of those guideline pages; you need to show how your link does not violate any of those guidelines. --Teratornis 04:58, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Also be careful with the number of times you add the link back; see WP:3RR. If you don't understand someone else's edit, ask them (nicely) to explain further, by posting a question on the article's talk page. However, in this case the problem seems to be pretty obvious, because the link that's getting deleted is to an age-restricted (i.e., pornographic) Yahoo group. You may have better results promoting your Yahoo group on another wiki specializing in this topic area, such as maybe this one. --Teratornis 05:09, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sexual abuse

Can anyone tell me what the organization is that takes care of child sexual abuse? You know, the people that teachers and nurses are supposed to call if a child reports being sexually abused. I thinking along the lines of a 4-letter acronym that starts with a C???

Don't get any wrong ideas, I'm asking this question because of this thread.--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 05:03, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps Child Protective Services? Postoak 05:15, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I posted an article and it doesn't appear on other computers

I posted an article on the linux computer and I could log out, search for that article and find it. However, I can only find it on the window computer if i'm logged in. if i'm not, i cant find it. Any ideas on where i went wrong? Eisenhower 05:19, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

You seem to be talking about this article: Ai XIn Jue Luo Yu Huan. How are you searching for the article on your Windows computer? --Teratornis 05:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Note that the article is mis-named. It currently has name Ai XIn Jue Luo Yu Huan. It probably should be Ai Xin Jue Luo Yu Huan (using Xin for '新'). It may be that after logging back in you type the correct name, and couldn't find it. Should the article be 'moved' to the second name? Shenme 05:44, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clearing history

An anonymous IP user inappropriately vandalized my user page with hurtful edits recently. The vandalism was since reverted, but I am not satisfied with the edits existing in the page's history. I am wondering whom I might be able to ask in helping to remove the relevant edits from the history. --Brandon Dilbeck 06:53, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Revisions in the history are almost never removed unless they contain very sensitive personal information. Many users on Wikipedia have had their user page vandalized many times (some even thousands of times (check admins' userpage history)) but they are not removed from history because they serve as a record of past contributions from that user and can be used as evidence in blocking or banning the said user. Vandals often target userpages because they know that provoking the user will attract attention which is what they want. If you still want to have the edits removed then you can request oversight at WP:RFO. You can also read up on Wikipedia:Oversight for more info. Hope this helps! -- _Hdt83 ^Chat 08:52, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

• Hdt is right. It's best not to remove those edits. If they're oversighted, they'll be gone forever. If you leave them, they can be used as evidence against the vandal later. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:15, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism on talk pages

I understand that it is "frowned upon" to remove content from your talk page, or the talk page of an article, but what if it is vandalism (well, in this case it isn't vandalism so much as an IP address inserting random symbols at the bottom of the page). Can I remove that without being bitten? --The Dark Lord Trombonator (((¶))) 10:03, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

• Random symbols fall under the "grafitti"-bit of Wikipedia:Vandalism. No one will bite you for that. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:17, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 'Semi-Protected' chart on 'Iraq War' and 'Multinational Force in Iraq' pages

Hello,

It seems that somebody has tried to prevent others from editing a chart that I would like to update, as some information on it is now old. Could somebody please have a look at the chart listing the size of troop contingents on these pages and determine whether it is legal to prevent others from editing it, and if not, how can I go about making changes to it?

Thanks.

--Buttockhat 11:20, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

If you were referring to this chart, it isn't semi protected. --KZ^{Talk• Contribs} 11:26, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah I see...when I tried to make changes to it by editing its section on those pages, it did say it was 'Semi-Protected'. I didn't know it had to be edited by opening it up on a seperate page. Thanks KZ.

--Buttockhat 11:33, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How to add a link

I want to add a clickable link called "I-LIE" under "See Also" in the article "Political Satire". All I have been able to do so far is to do so far is to make an entry that appears in black, "I-LIE [1]", with a linking icon. What I would like to do is to have a directly clickable link that says "I-LIE", without, of course, the inappropriate "[1]" but I haven't been able to figure out how to do it. What's the proper procedure?

Hendon Chubb

First, if you're trying to give an external link (which it looks like you are), note that those usually go under a heading called "External Links." "See Also" Is usually for other Wikipedia articles. In any case, check out Wikipedia:How to edit a page#Links and URLs for more information on how to link to other pages. --Ybbor^TalkSurvey! 13:57, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

This is also just a minor example of satire, of which countless tens or hundreds of thousands can be found on the internet. Why do you think this one is notable enough to be linked? This isn't a rhetorical question: take a look at Wikipedia:External links and see if this fits the bill. Notinasnaid 16:47, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Didn't "Spam" But Got Deleted

I wrote an article about BBRBR (Bring Back R&B Radio), which is a radio program.

People keep asking what it is so I figured Wikipedia is the best place to "explain" it since I know I come here anytime I'm wondering "what is" or "who is" something.

I didn't advertise anything in it. I talked about it's inception, it's staff, it's purpose, and gave examples of the kinds of songs reviewed in the radio program.

Any ideas on what went wrong or how I can resubmit an article that won't get deleted as spam?

P.S. I edit a number of pages here and absolutely am not a spammer.

Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MissKriss (talk • contribs).

See Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted?. --Teratornis 14:51, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

You are correct that Wikipedia is an extremely popular wiki, and lots of people come here to read encyclopedic articles about things. Millions of people, like you, come here instead of to other sites because Wikipedia has high standards for article quality, rigorously enforced. (The enforcement isn't always consistent, because there are only so many experienced editors to keep up with the flood of new articles written by new users who haven't learned the rules yet, so some articles can contain beginner mistakes for some time before attracting attention.)

I'm not trying to be harsh, but you must be new to Wikipedia, because you did not sign your post here. That probably means you have barely started to read the manuals. That in turn means new articles you start are at high risk for deletion, because you aren't aware of all the things you are supposed to do and not do. But don't worry, everyone else made their share of mistakes starting out too. The right attitude is to look on these setbacks as exciting opportunities to learn more about what makes Wikipedia so great! Wikipedia really is a kind of miracle, like nothing else in history: tens of thousands of volunteers who are mostly strangers to each other, from every nation and point of view, are somehow able to collaborate to build one of the world's most popular Web sites. What's going on here really is wonderful and probably even revolutionary, and anyone with a lick of sense ought to recognize the importance and be curious to learn how it manages to work. What may not be obvious at first is just how staggeringly complicated this place is.

When the other editor called your article "spam" he or she almost certainly referred to Wikipedia's technical definition in WP:SPAM. This hardly means you are in the same class as those people who fill our e-mail inboxes with thousands of unsolicited advertisements. It's just the way Wikipedia uses the word. It just means you made a mistake which should be straightforward to fix. It does not mean you are a spammer, it means your article satisfied Wikipedia's definition of "spam." On Wikipedia, we have to separate ourselves from our contributions, and don't take other people's edits and critiques personally. They aren't criticizing you, just those words on the screen. Your challenge is to learn how to put words on the screen that satisfy the critics.

It's hard for us to advise you on what went wrong with your article, because we cannot see it just now. If we could see your article, we could tell you how to bring it up to Wikipedia's standards, if that would be possible for the subject. We would need a sysop to bring the page back so we can review it.

If you just want a place to write about the radio show, without all the strict rules for content, you should try another wiki. A search of WikiIndex finds some possibilities, including WikiSound. If you develop your article there, we can tell you what it will need to reach Wikipedia's standards. In the meantime, you will have a page on the Web that you can direct people to read for more information about your radio show. --Teratornis 15:34, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

On second thought, WikiSound's copyright policy looks incompatible with Wikipedia. Anything you contribute to WikiSound becomes owned by WikiSound, and therefore you could not develop an article there and then bring it to Wikipedia. So you would need to find another wiki. --Teratornis 15:43, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

You could also try again here, but start at the drawing board first. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 17:42, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hobart talk page

Someone has recently moved Hobart to City of Hobart. Assuming this is correct(?) shouldn't the talk page Talk:Hobart be moved as well? Could someone who knows how to do this have a look please? --Shantavira 13:59, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

It was not a move in the Wikipedia sense. Both articles existed from November 24 2006 when City of Hobart was split off from Hobart (diff) until March 31 2007 where Hobart was redirected to City of Hobart (diff). The talk pages are separate and it's normal that an article keeps its own talk page when it's changed to a redirect without being moved. I have not examined whether it was appropriate to redirect. That can be discussed at Talk:City of Hobart. PrimeHunter 15:44, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Which is empty except for a template. It does seem odd to me that that discussion of the "move" should be left behind at Talk:Hobart, which page is not obvious to a newcomer unless they know to click on the little "redirected from Hobart" flag first...--Shantavira 17:57, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks For Your Reply, but how do you change it?

Thanks for Answering my Question, but i don't know how to change an article's name. Can you show me? Eisenhower 14:17, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

See WP:MOVE to find out how to move an article to the correct name. You'll have to be a registered user for at least four days before you can move an article. Or you can post a request before then at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Dismas|^(talk) 14:49, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citation template for magazine.

What citation template do I use for referencing a magazine? I looked and I didn't see one, should I just use standard MLA format and not use a template? Thanks. —Christopher Mann McKay 16:52, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

You can use either the general {{citation}} or possibly {{citenews}}. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 17:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Have you checked the WP:CITET page? Anchoress 21:47, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Popups

Hi. I added some new features to my monobook (see my contribs), but they didn't seem to have made any noticable difference, the new options are not showing up, and the popups are acting as if the new options haven't been added. Please take a look at my monobook if you like, and note anything I typed wrong. I noticed a few strange things with the page; the white bordered box has dissapeared, the grey warning has dissapeared, and the lines themselves don't have their own line the way that the popups tool page shows. Could anyone help me? I notice that the popups summaries for reverting are now working, but the new options I add aren't. Could someone help me? Thanks. – AstroHurricane001^{(Talk+Contribs+Ubx)(+sign here+How's my editing?)} 17:01, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Try Bypassing your browsers cache, this normally has to be done for scrips to work (e.g WP:TWINKLE).Tellyaddict 17:56, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I tried bypassing my cache, but a new and worse problem has occured. Right after I bypassed my cache, the whole popups stopped working! Also, near the bottom of my screen, my browser indicates that there is an error in the page. This happens whenever I log on to wikipedia now. When I'm logged off or on another site, there don't seem to be any problems, but when I'mlogged on, that notice appeares, and popups don't work. When I hover my mouse over a link, the text appeares with the name only of a page in a small, but the actual popups don't work. They were working just fine except for the new features just before I bypassed it. I've tried clicking refresh, bypassing it again, and even clearing my cache, but nothing seems to work. Please help! I want my popups back. Thanks. – AstroHurricane001^{(Talk+Contribs+Ubx)(+sign here+How's my editing?)} 18:22, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I believe that it's a syntax error. In the place of:

popupQueriedRevertSummary=Revert to old Reversion $1 dated at $2 edited by $3 using [[Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups|popups]].;
popupsFixDabsSummary=Fix Disambiguation link %s into link %s using popups.;
popupRedlinkSummary=Remove red link %s from article using popups.;

try:

popupQueriedRevertSummary='Revert to old Reversion $1 dated at $2 edited by $3 using [[Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups|popups]].';
popupsFixDabsSummary='Fix Disambiguation link %s into link %s using popups.';
popupRedlinkSummary='Remove red link %s from article using popups.';

Hope this helps. Gracenotes^T § 22:49, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Yay!! It finally worked! Thank you so much :D:D:D !!! – AstroHurricane001^{(Talk+Contribs+Ubx)(+sign here+How's my editing?)} 01:52, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gary Catona

I worked on a project entitled Gary Catona. It has been deleted, I think. Where has it gone? What must I do to correct this?

If it's been deleted, it was probably non notable or something of that sort. It's gone. You can recreate it, but it'll probably be deleted again anyway.--$UIT 18:19, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[10] shows the deletion log. The cryptic part is WP:CSD#G11, but you follow the link you will see it was described as "blatant advertising" and has a more detailed explanation. Notinasnaid 18:21, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted?. --Teratornis 19:30, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not found

In the last 15 minutes, I've gotten, maybe 5 'not found messages

Not Found The requested URL /wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Help_desk was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

it's not a 404, What's going on here? should I be worried?--Honeymane_{Heghlu meH QaQ jajvam} 20:56, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I just got three "not found"s in a row trying to add this reply to say that I also have had these "not found" responses when trying to view my watchlist. Sancho 20:59, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I've gotten the 'not found' and the 404 messages - just a server hiccup I imagine. BTW it looks like it's being discussed on the administrative noticeboards too, if someone wants to look and see the 'official word'. Anchoress 21:03, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

It appears (from discussion on #wikimedia-tech WP:IRC that there is a malfunctioning Apache server. The developers are sorting it out now. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 21:07, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Same problems here too. Pacific Coast Highway ^{{talk • contribs}} 21:12, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Draft?

I've seen draft versions of articles on pages that begin with "User", but it really isn't a user page. How can I make one of these? FictionH 21:28, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

They are user subpages. You can make them like a normal page except you prefix them with User:Yourusername/. For example, you could make a sandbox page User:FictionH/Sandbox or to start a draft article User:FictionH/Article When you are ready to move it to mainspace, move it like a regular page, so the history can be moved too. Then tag the resulting redirect with {{db-author}}

• • Thank you! FictionH 21:59, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

See: WP:UP#What about user subpages?. Some user subpages are impressive. One I use often: User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia. --Teratornis 00:55, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help Desk mess

I don't know whether the archive bot had a bad day or what, but we've ended up with the 4-7 April duplicated apparently in their entirety. I'd dive in and fix it, but if it's throwing a wobbly, I'd be worried that any intervention might make it worse. Adrian M. H. 22:43, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I removed the archives' transclusion. Hopefully this doesn't mess with the bot... I'm looking into it, I guess. Odd though, odd. Gracenotes^T § 23:16, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

There was a problem with RefDeskBot, I believe it was jsut fixed recently, the owner must still be working the kinks out. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 00:58, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I was manually archiving the desk with RDB, but it seems that someone had manually archived April 5 already, so removing that text from the RefDesk. Because the April 5 date header was now gone, and the only one remaining was at the bottom of the page, the bot mistakenly archived the whole thing, leaving us with 2 transclusions. Thanks, Martinp23 08:37, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Until a moment ago, there were two sets of blue box areas, split by a TOC. I think I have managed to fix that correctly. Adrian M. H. 14:02, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures

How can i add pictures. Also were is th pipe used in some editing —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.215.109.19 (talk) 23:53, 7 April 2007 (UTC).

For uploading images, look on the toolbox on the left. See the link Upload file? Click it. Make sure you follow the image guidelines when uploading. As for the pipe, it is slightly misleading because it is a broken pipe on the keyboard. For the |, look to the left of the z or above the Enter key. It is shift-\. x42bn6 Talk 23:55, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Report problem

Could I email a problem to wikipedia (I'm not talking about sending a email on why I shouldn't get blocked)? Cause there's this user that keeps getting rid of everything I put on the Ben 10 pages and there. He keeps getting rid of them is because he doesn't like them and thinks they're pointless and he does this to annoy me. How can I report a problem like this? Is there a rule about people getting rid of people's edits repeatedly? --Naruto134 00:00, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Unless someone is violating the three revert rule, you should try the recommendations at WP:DR. — coelacan — 01:48, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] April 8

[edit] How do I add automatic edit summaries manually?

Hi. I recently took a long Wikibreak and came back to find a suggestion that I specify which version I'm reverting an article back to (I mainly revert vandalism). I've decided to take this suggestion by using WP:AES, but I don't see anything that says how to add it manually. Help? Psycho Kirby 01:31, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, normally you would just write "rv to last version by USERNAME" in the edit summary. There's also a WP:UNDO function that will undo a single edit and make an edit summary for you. If you're looking for the tools that fill in detailed edit summaries, there are some listed at Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit. I know the "twinkle" script does this. Hope that helps, — coelacan — 01:41, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll try to do that from now on. Psycho Kirby 02:03, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm probably a bit late response wise, but using the revert feature of the popups tool also automatically fills in the edit summary, I've found it incredibly useful. --LuigiManiac 02:10, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

If you want to make a string of specific edits with an automatic edit summary, I believe that the following code will work, if placed in your monobook.js (there may be incompatibilities, although I doubt it):

addOnloadHook(function() {
  if (document.getElementById('wpSummary')) {
    document.getElementById('wpSummary').value = 'your edit summary here';
  }
});

If you want the edits to be marked as minor, use:

addOnloadHook(function() {
  if (document.getElementById('wpSummary')) {
    document.getElementById('wpSummary').value = 'your edit summary here';
    document.getElementById('wpMinoredit').checked = true;
  }
});

Make sure to remove it when you're done. Gracenotes^T § 04:35, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah, this is just in general. WP:TW takes care of the anti-vandalism revision stuff just fine. Gracenotes^T § 04:36, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bureaucrat?

How can users become bureuacats?Trampton 03:16, 8 April 2007 (UTC).

A user can before a bureaucrat by successfully passing an RFB—a request for bureaucratship. A user may nominate him/herself, or one user may nominate another. It basically works how WP:RFA works, except that generally a lot of support is needed (more than 85%), and questioning can be very, very intense. Gracenotes^T § 04:27, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Also see Wikipedia:Bureaucrats. John Reaves (talk) 04:30, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I seem to remember that an RfB request has to be self-nominated. As it happens, though, there haven't been any successful requests since 12 June 2006; it is very hard to pass at RfB. --ais523 15:39, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TJ Wilson

Hello. I have tried to add the word "not" into the sentence regarding Pete Wilson being TJ Wilson's brother but it will not accept my change. I do not know why that is. I do know with out a doubt that Pete Wilson is not TJ Wilson's brother; and, I would consider myself a reliable source..after all, as TJ's mom, I believe I know who my children are; and, I believe Pete's mom would have to agree with me. Ms. Wilson68.146.215.249 03:39, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm sure you're a reliable source, but Wikipedia needs something more than the truth: it needs something called verifiability. That is, something other people can check (without phoning you at all hours to confirm it!). So... is there any book or newspaper article that has this information? Let us know, and we can help you add that information. Notinasnaid 07:50, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Rest assured, however, that Wikipedia's software is not clever enough to figure out that your edit was not verified! It was probably just either something that you missed or a server problem (we had one of those for a while yesterday, for example). Adrian M. H. 15:44, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] posting maps

Hi. I am trying to post some of my self-made maps in here. My question is: 1) how do I post captions for them, 2) how do I tag them for "fair use" catagory of copyrights? There is no catagory for maps under the rubric "fair use"!

Thanks,

Mike Izady —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Izady (talk • contribs).

Captions are a part of the article where the picture is used. A picture could be used in three articles and have a different caption each time.

Fair use is not a type of copyright. Fair use is a legal argument that copyright doesn't apply; it has to be made in full knowledge of the copyright law. Why do you want fair use? Is it because your maps are derived from other copyright works (which you acknowledge, since redrawing a map can retain its copyright)? I guess, for us to give you good advice, you should describe to us the process you used, including any reference maps and how you worked with them. Notinasnaid 07:47, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Further reply-

Where images is definitely not my area of expertise-

Have a look at Wikipedia:Images for ways of putting images in articles. Once you've uploaded your image (your map), use the markup [[Image:Example.png|thumb|right|Example image caption]], replacing example.png with the name of the image and the extension, right is the alignment, and can be substituted with "right" "left" or "float", and example image caption answers your question- put your image caption there.

I'm not sure about what fair use tag to use for them- it depends on the picture. However, to help you you can have a look at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Fair use and see if any of them help you. For more information, you can see Wikipedia:Fair use. I hope that helped- CattleGirl ^{talk | sign!} 07:46, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

As Wikipedia wants its content to be freely distributed, there are only certain conditions under which copyrighted work used under fair use is accepted/used. This is when no freely usable alternative is available or could be made in the future. For a map you have drawn yourself, they are clearly replaceable as they could be recreated by someone else and released under a free licence, and would therefore be deleted as replaceable. There are a number of licences Wikipedia does except where you still retain copyright but you allow the work to be distributed under the licence. The licences that are excepted are described at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Free licenses, along with the tag you can use on the image description page, and I suggest you read them carefully before choosing one that is suitable for your needs. Hope that helps, and let me know if you have any more questions. mattbr 08:45, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] a wrong link about Mossadegh in Persian wikipedia

Dear Colleagues, thanks for your great effort. There is a problem in the Persian Wikipedia as follows:

In the article about "Mossadegh" there is a link by the external links at the bottom of this article named: زندگی کار و پیکار دکتر محمد مصدق This sentence is linked to http://mossadeq.com, but it should be linked to http://www.mossadeq.com As it is just now, it does not function and does not find it.

Please arrange it to be corrected.

Thanks in advance. Regards Soheila Sattari —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.63.125.26 (talk) 05:37, 8 April 2007 (UTC).

I think I have fixed it for you. In future, anyone can make changes to articles so you are welcome to make the change yourself, plus this is the English Wikipedia, and you are best asking questions about the Persian language project there. mattbr 08:29, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Icelandic short stories

I ran across a Category:Þættir, with a number of articles whose titles are in Icelandic rather than English, i.e. use Icelandic characters. Should they be renamed or left as is? Clarityfiend 06:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I think there was a question on here quite a while ago about that. I'm pretty sure the consensus is leave the titles how they are, but create redirects in place of the Icelandic characters, for example, Brands þáttr örva could have a redirect called Brands pattr orva or Brands Pattr Orva, so the pages are easily accessible to english writers. CattleGirl ^{talk | sign!} 07:39, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox + pic... = what?

Hi, I've been trying to format the page Gerard Way with not much luck... when visiting that page you'll notice that the image placed in the infobox has text around it, as well as the caption, which was intended to be there, under it. The infobox in use is Infobox musical artist... if someone could perhaps fix this/tell me how to fix this and tell me what was wrong, it would be appreciated. Thanks- CattleGirl ^{talk | sign!} 07:25, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Image has been removed, as replaceable with no source. CattleGirl ^{talk | sign!} 08:16, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

(ec) The image was linked like this '[[Image:name.jpg]]' when it should be just 'name.jpg', the infobox adds the rest for you. I'll clarify the documentation so it makes that clearer. I have removed the image from the page as it has no source or licence, and has a replaceable fair use tag on, so it is very likely that it will be deleted. mattbr 08:20, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MOBILE VER.

HOW I USE WIKWPEDIA ON MY MOBLE PHONE ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.176.112.105 (talk) 09:24, 8 April 2007 (UTC).

Wikipedia:WAP access might help. x42bn6 Talk 17:38, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sorting on tables

On a list I came across yesterday, List of George Cross recipients, the table can be sorted with the button at the top of the column. However, the full dates in one column dont sort properly - is it possible to do this, and is there anyone that knows enough about tables to do this? Thanks, RHB ^{Talk - Edits} 09:50, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Help:Sorting recommends using <span style="display:none">2006-12-25</span>[[25 December]] [[2006]]. Hope that helps, mattbr 10:16, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How do I place a locater dot on a map?

I was editing Soda Creek and added a map and am stumped as to how, and really where exactly to put that yellow dot. Also, should I remove the useless map until I do know how?CindyBo 10:26, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

If you want to create a map for the article then you mau have to make it by yourself or search the Wikimedia commons for one, you can create them using image programmes such as Inkscape or Adobe Photoshop, however if you do not know exactly where the yellow dot would go (which indcates where the place is), maybe you could ask other Wikipedians too at Wikipedia:Requested images. That should help! Tellyaddict 11:16, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

The Editor's index has lots of information about maps.

• Where to put the yellow dot: first you want to obtain geographic coordinates for Soda Creek. You can use the various links to search for it, or you can use the information already in the Soda Creek article. Let's try the latter:
  • The Soda Creek article says: A small bench of land at the mouth of Soda Creek and ten miles north of Williams Lake .... The Williams Lake article gives its coordinates and shows a map of British Columbia with the location filled in. The scale of that map is large enough that you could probably use the same map in the Soda Creek article; the ten mile difference is probably within the size of the dot you could draw on the map.
    • Actually you could just use the same map for the Soda Creek article as is in the Williams Lake article, because the location rectangle looks to cover a distance at the map scale large enough to mask the ten mile distance between Williams Lake and Soda Creek. So I'll put that in. But we still need coordinates for {{coord}}, and we need more accuracy for that.
  • Google Maps finds Williams Lake easily enough [11].
  • Looking about ten miles north and slightly west of Williams Lake on the map shows an unlabeled shaded area between highway 97 and an unlabeled waterway that is probably the Fraser River; that looks like a good candidate for the mouth of the Soda Creek.
  • We click the Link to this page button in Google Maps to get the big ugly URL for this location, which we paste into WWC link converter to extract the coordinates and get the {{coor dms}} template source:
    • {{coor dms|52|20|3.82|N|122|17|11.24|W|region:CA_type:landmark}}: 52°20′3.82″N, 122°17′11.24″W
  • That links to a page that in turn links to several map sites for this location. One site not on the list (for some reason) is the Atlas of Canada's topo maps. Unfortunately, the Atlas of Canada site requires us to tediously type in six input items to specify the coordinates (because it only accepts DMS coordinates, and not decimal degrees), and even more unfortunately, I cannot see an obvious way to generate a URL to the resulting map that I could paste here. You'll have to visit the site and type in the coordinates yourself, or just take my word for it that the Atlas of Canada topo map does plainly show Soda Creek near the coordinates I listed above.
    • Does anyone know how to generate a link to an Atlas of Canada map?

--Teratornis 18:12, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

We are actually supposed to use {{coord}} instead of {{coor dms}} now, as the former deprecates the latter. I put a {{coord}} in Soda Creek. Also, the lead section of Soda Creek needed work; it read as if we were dropping into the middle of a conversation. I edited it slightly. --Teratornis 18:16, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] how can i see the map of india and its states from this site

pls tell me how can i see the map of india and its states. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.178.74.224 (talk) 11:46, 8 April 2007 (UTC).

Is Image:India-states-numbered.svg what you are looking for? mattbr 12:25, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Looking for a succession box

I'm looking for a template for a succession box. That is, I'm trying to determine if one is already made for what I want to do, if not I'll copy and modify one to do what I want. What I want to do is add a box to the articles for sites along Boston's Freedom Trail. What I've found is the following:

Preceded by N/A

Locations along Boston's Freedom Trail Boston Common

Succeeded by Massachusetts State House

But this looks odd in that the landmarks are in bold in the "before" and "after" boxes but in standard type in the middle of the box. It just doesn't look uniform. But then if I have the current landmark and the title in bold, it would still look odd. Any ideas for where to look for what I want? Dismas|^(talk) 12:44, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

It looks a bit better with bold text for the middle entry, like above. That would save you creating a new template. Adrian M. H. 15:53, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Purging

I've never really understood this. What exactly does it do? Simply south 13:35, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

It causes the server to regenerate the HTML version of the wikimarkup on the page. Normally, this does nothing; but if pages that you're transcluding have changed, it'll update the visible version of the page (and likewise if you're using magic words like #time: it'll update the page for the current time rather than the time at the last purge/save). Purging a page doesn't update things like its what-links-here or other things that don't depend on its HTML version. Hope that helps! --ais523 13:44, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] surname

hi the page "Matt barrelle" should have a capital B on "Barrelle" how does one edit the name? Greenplanet71

In order to change the name of an article, the article must be moved to the new title. See WP:MOVE for more info. Your account is too new for you to move articles so I have moved the article for you. Dismas|^(talk) 13:51, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] uss bullhead (submarine)

My brother on the uss bullhead (submarine)which was lost around or near the Java sea between China and Japan in 1945 and I would like any information about the uss bullhead?

Ernest L Harris <address removed for privacy> Monroe mi. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eharris1 (talk • contribs) 13:53, 8 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] uss bullhead (submarine)

My brother on the uss bullhead (submarine)which was lost around or near the Java sea between China and Japan in 1945 and I would like any information about the uss bullhead?

Ernest L Harris Email and Home address removed for privacy Eharris1 14:03, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

See USS Bullhead (SS-332). Dismas|^(talk) 14:53, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Where does cheese come from?

See cheese for more information. AQu01rius (User • Talk) 15:50, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pam Pinnock image deletion

pam pinnock page book cover picture was deleted because lack of licensing by Riana. It has been up for weeks without a problem. When I checked under the download it shows that permission was given to use and it is public domain. I tried to put it back but was not able to. can you help. Article looks plan and empty without book cover.

Please remember to include a heading and sign your comments. That the image in question was around for weeks does not mean that there was no problem; simply that no-one had yet noticed and attended to it. If you are certain that its license status was correctly described and that its status was suitable for use in Wikipedia, then leave a polite request for explanation on the deleting editor's talk page. Adrian M. H. 18:16, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Search History

How do I delete the Search History for Wikipedia? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ajbibby (talk • contribs) 18:11, 8 April 2007 (UTC).

You will have to delete your browser history by going on Tools → Internet options → Delete browser history, this is for windows. That should help. Tellyaddict 18:15, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] the amazing race- A corrida Milionaria

Please add a link to our page: www.acorridamilionaria.com.br

tks Rony —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.36.104.133 (talk) 18:38, 8 April 2007 (UTC).