Talk:Surrey, British Columbia
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[edit] Town Centres
I took the liberty of creating stubs for the town centres (the Cloverdale article previously existed). --Kmsiever 16:36, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] NPOV
"Yet even though they are occasionally on the receiving end of racist violence[1], it seems the South Asian community always finds a way to bring more and more violence into the community, endangering once safe neighbourhoods." Why has nobody commented on this yet?!?!? this is a statement professing a very xenophobic, straight up racist point of view!!! remove this immediately!!! 65.93.194.50 23:26, 2 February 2007 (UTC) Justin
Changed some of the wording about Cadman's controversial vote in parliament, tried to make it a little more NPOV. Previous poster had referred to the vote within a context of "notoriety". Also added the stuff at the bottom about surrey-girls and boys. Figured something should be said about that. Don't live in surrey anymore, but grew up there, and still carry the burden of the stigma. Nonetheless still proud to be a Trojan! (West Whalley Junior Secondary mascot)--67.70.32.211 12:36, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
The "high crime rates" sentence needs to be NPOV'd! ;)
Most of this text added on 18 Mar 2004 by 24.84.149.215 is taken almost verbatim from the surrey website. It's very adjective laden and gushes a great deal about the city. Clearly this is a NPOV problem. Dostal 14:59, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Removed POV "One of the most beautiful cities in the GVRD". Most in the region and in BC as well, consider Surrey the Anus of the Lower Mainland and Walley to be the Anus of Surrey.
- Thanks for providing a link to the definition of "anus" as I had no idea what that word meant beforehand. Drouillm 21:55, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Justin: because those rednecks in the Valley suburbs trying to blame ethnics for violence while chanting 'there is no racism here' mantra, 'Safe neighborhoods'??? Whalley and Newton are much safer now as opposed to ten years ago when they were famous hangouts for the biker gangs and the so called trailer park crowd not to mention neo-nazis. The very reason for Surrey and more specifically Whalley not going the way of East Hastings is the fact that large number of working class immigrants have moved in. These people talking about Surrey conveniently forget East Vancouver which is a much more violent place compared to East hastings Whalley looks more like a 'normal' suburb(it used ot be a lot worse 20 years ago when it was almost entirely working class white), most of Surrey's 'crime' is car-theft and grow-op related in lower-middle class white areas, but is till lower than Vancouver's on a per capita basis. Check RCMP and VPD webites or crimestoppers you won't find many east indian or asian faces there, infact more asians than east indians but still less than whites or even natives, seems like someone has been listening to the CKNW a lot or reading the Sun and the Province or watching BCTV errr Global BC, it took a long time for them to drop the BCTV name afraid of losing the white con audience that they think are their only viewers, no wonder the CTV and City have eaten into their share especially luring young viewers, same with the Sun their current readership is where it was in the mid 50's while the population has grown 3 times, its not a coinicdence that Global, Sun and the Province are owned by the same corporation, these media outlets focus on some brazen elements in minority groups that are responsible for 5 violent incidents a year with at least 5 followups per news item if it shows a minority in bad light and ignore or under report the almost daily violence involving whites unless its Pickton style mass murder which people across the country are watching.
The reason for this, they openly state when minorities protest is, that their conservative readers/viewers want this...they get away with this divisiveness and hatred while the weak and vulnerable sections of ethnics suffer violent racial hatred in places like Surrey and used to in East and South Vancouver streets in the 70's...its hard to find a major Canadian city where racial hatred is swept under the rug or sometimes justified with bizarre arguements as in Greater Vancouver, media in places like Calgary has a better record of tackling racism than Vancouver, no wonder it holds the dubious distinction for occurence of a race riot in Canada, and Surrey holds the disitinction of racially motivated murders of minorites by neo-nazis. Its hard to come across such racially/culturally divided major city in Canada(or the US except for the south/sout-west) where the main representatives of the caucasian population are so prone to divisive thinking and race driven ideology as Greater Vancouver. Surrey and fraser Valley was and still is home to a number of far-right groups, though many have moved to the Okanagan now. We are not racist it just looks that way. March 31, 2007
[edit] Demographics
In the demographics section should "Asian" be "South Asian"? I'm pretty sure it should be but I don't have the numbers. Also, if the city estimates 400 000 people why does it still say 347 000 in the template thing? TastyCakes 22:49, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
mm I now notice that the religion percentages add up to 68.7%.. Somewhere along the way some of the numbers have become screwed. Does anyone know the actual numbers? TastyCakes 22:41, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Crime
It would be good to find some facts about the crime rate in Surrey compared to all other municipalities, and cities in the GVRD. You can't argue with facts. I bet it might have the highest crime rate, although probably by a small margin...which is probably what has led to Surrey's bad reputation, and that's without even taking into account "Surrey girls". Just kidding ;-) dave 17:28, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)
- Psh, as if! [1] Langley wins. And Surrey is even less crime filled than Vancouver itself. Take THAT! Ashley 03:08, 16 Sept 2006 (PST)
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- Like he said, you can't argue with facts; however, once people have a stereotype in their heads, it takes forever to get out. --Kmsiever 14:13, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Where does all this 'crime' occur in Surrey, Surrey's crime rate is much lower than Vancouver and Burnaby especially violent crimes and break-ins the only significant crime that is there is car-theft and grow-op related mostly concentrated in Whalley which by the way has improved a lot in the last few decades. Stats say something totally different, its the media stupid. Its hard to find a prostitute or 'Surrey girls' on the stroll in Surrey while on Hastings and Kingsway in Vanouver, you don't even have to look. You feel safe while walking alone at night in pretty much every part of Surrey but not so in Vancouver especially in the above mentioned areas. April, 2007
[edit] Barnston Island
I'd think with Barnston island being unincorporated, it's not actually part of Surrey as mentioned.Zedcaster 07:20, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Introductory Paragraph
Can somebody cite where Surrey is ever referred to as "the hood" independent of every other neighbourhood in the world? I've lived in the Greater Vancouver area my entire life and never associated somebody saying "the hood" with Surrey. I know that it's not the nicest city in the Greater Vancouver area - but I also don't think that this "nickname" should be included on the page. joecdn 05:42, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- Outside a small teenage clique, I doubt anyone refers to it as such. I removed the vandalism. --Kmsiever 14:11, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] crime
The info at Bait car on Surrey should be in this article too.—msh210℠ 18:25, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
