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Contents 1 Important note—do not archive 2 Impact Section 3 Cast Section 4 Removal of Infobox movie certificates 5 Pre-Matrix short story? 6 blue/green screen 7 Sunglasses

[edit] Important note—do not archive

This page comes under frequent attack from The Matrixism linkspamming vandal, who often operates under a set of dynamic IP addresses. Remedies include semi-protection and blocking. This vandal will try and argue for the legitimacy of this link on this talk page, but this is a long-settled issue.

Please refer to the following:

• Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Matrixism
• Talk:The_Matrix/Archive#RfC
  • There was also an RfC for this issue that I am unable to find, but the above link refers to it
• Wikipedia:Redirects_for_deletion/Precedents/Deleted#Matrixism
• and of course the talk archives for this page, Talk:New religious movement, and Talk:List of religions

Philwelch 22:25, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Impact Section

Is it me, or is the "Meatrix" discussion paragraph in the impact section way too long than warranted? Seems like it was put there by people with an non-NPOV agenda to push.

[edit] Cast Section

Seriously, that needs to be cleaned up. While the patrick stewart and russell crowe entries are amusing.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 166.124.98.20 (talk) 22:51, 5 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Removal of Infobox movie certificates

I'm against the removal of the {{infobox movie certificates}}. It provides useful information on the film. In my view, it is useful to have this concise summary. Although there is currently only one rating (US), this can and will grow. When this happens, it will become far too verbose to express the whole list of ratings in text form. The box also encourages worldwide contributors to add their countries' own rating. For discussion of this template in general usage, not just on this page, I suggest talking on the Template:infobox movie certificates page, where it can be discussed properly. --h2g2bob 18:11, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I really don't like lists. I think there is a guideline regarding Wikipedia on not being a place where you just stuff everything. Certificates should be included if there was a particular controversy, like in the U.K. the film had some headbutts cut to secure a 15. WikiNew 18:13, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

If you can find information regarding such a policy, please provide a link to it. As it is, there seems to be an agreement that the ratings box should be here; to me it seems logical that the rating of a movie is quite important. Thanks. matt.smart ^talk/contribs 18:34, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information WikiNew 18:49, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pre-Matrix short story?

I dimly remember an old scifi short story in which the entire human population (apart from a few caretakers) was installed in tanks, happily dreaming. One human rebels against this easy life, and tries to set his fellow humans free. The revolutionaries reject "tank" reality and set up a crude commune out in the real world, heroically embracing the hardships of "real" life outside the tanks.

At the end of the story, two caretakers are talking about how difficult it sometimes is to tailor fake realities for some of the more difficult individuals, so that the fantasies won't be rejected. It turns out that the entire revolution was one of these fake realities, constructed for the benefit of the central character who (ironically) is happily dreaming his anti-tank dreams ... inside a tank.

Does anyone else remember this old story? Title? Author? ErkDemon 07:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] blue/green screen

This bit in visual effects is just nonsensical. The colour shift is obviously a post-production effect rather than an on-set one. And I'm not much of a matrix buff but even I've seen the backstage footage of bullet time being shot in greenscreen. This is a justification, not a suggestion; I'm doing this anyway. -Zepheriah 20:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

your tone seems a bit strong. if you were going to 'do it anyway,' then simply put your reasoning in an edit summary. discussion page is for just that - discussion. you need not make justifications for your edits here - this would be a page for ideas and consensus. by all means, be bold in updating pages, after all, each edit we make can be reverted by anyone. the_undertow ^talk 00:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sunglasses

Why do all the characters wear black clothes and sunglasses? That seems to be the stereotype but there doesn't seem to be much of an explanation why. Ratso 03:04, 23 March 2007 (UTC)