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Defintely biased: i.e. "Switzer knew Aikman had a great future, but it wasn't at Oklahoma. He called his friend Terry Donahue, and got him into pass-happy UCLA.". Shouldn't this simply say "Aikman then transferred to UCLA, a team better known for passing plays"

In 1994, Dallas again won the Super Bowl, again blowing the Bills off the field. If they won again in 1995, they would become the first team in history to win three straight. But, Jones and Johnson couldn't keep their massive egos in check, each man taking credit for the team's success.

"Blowing the Bills off the field"? "Massive egos"? This looks like something a 12-year old wrote.

I think even a neutral observer would agree that the Cowboys did blow the Bills off the field in both Super Bowls they played.

The article is rather brash in tone, reads rather like an American Football commentry. But as a brit with at least a passing interest in the game, and no particular team loyalty to be offended I'm probably as neutral an observer as you find. I don't see the NPOV issue. The piece shows Aikman in a favorable light, but then his achevements rather speak for themselves.. Probably the piece would be more useful on an international basis if it didn't assume quite as much background knowledge in US College football, the baseball draft, and football lingo generally, but I really don't see the NPOV issue. Shoka

• Buffalo was leading at halftime in the second game.
• Johnson and his massive ego was no longer coaching the team in 1994, it was Barry Switzer
• As anyone who knows football can verify, it was turnovers that ruined Dallas' chances in the NFC Championship game. The 49ers got 21 points off of 3 turnovers in the first quarter. While the defense held MVP Steve Young in check, the deficit was too much for the 'Boys to overcome. Don't blame egos for Aikman's picks, Irvin's fumble, and whatever the name of that other guy who fumbled was.

--MJR 21:08, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Do his investments in a racing cars and something called pro trade seem rather trivial for the introduction?

Possibly the racing cars, but definitely the pro trade, which seems like link spam. Will remove the latter. --Claygate 03:23, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Mack Brown 2 No Picture? 3 Come on.... 4 The Heck? 5 Personal

[edit] Mack Brown

Mack was the OC during aikman's tenure there. Aikman says so himself. Corpx 03:34, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Not true. Jim Donnan was the OC. Brown was OC in 1984, but had moved to Tulane in 1985.--Tjcthree 16:23, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Mack Brown was the OC in 1984, which was during Aikman's 'tenure'. Danny Bradley was the starting QB that year, though. Jim Donnan was the OC in 1985, when Aikman went 3-1 as the OU starter before being injured in the Miami game.→Deser† sapper•≈talk 16:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No Picture?

Just curious.. why no picture?
Jaymzyates 23:59, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

There have been a couple of different ones on the article but have been removed for reasons of copyright. A public domain image is needed. I thought the previous one was OK because it was a promotional image but others disagreed. --Claygate 01:35, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I really think this site needs a picture. I find it hard to understand why it doesn't. If you say the first picture was OK then leave it. ETod09 22:33, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Come on....

I'm a lifelong Cowboys and Aikman fan, but crap like this needs to be removed: "...fans were taking notice of the blond-haired, blue-eyed leader...". It's like a damn magazine article. I'd edit it, but I don't want to screw up or do the article injustice. James 00:17, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Good point, has been removed and another irrelevant sentence about advertising was also edited. The paragraphs about the first couple of seasons are long and could stand further clean up. --Claygate 03:05, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Heck?

What the heck is that thing saying that Troy Aikman fell in love with a 13 year old boy? Ka-Ris

[edit] Personal

Fixed Aikman's marriage information and children with citation. Negative/erroneous information removed.→Deser† sapper•≈talk 16:32, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I can see the desire is there to throw Skip Bayless' claims about both Barry Switzer and Troy Aikman from his Hell-Bent book into a "non-biased" article about Aikman, but none of the claims were ever substantiated, even if they are carried in depth on several gay/lesbian websites. Whether Switzer insinuated that Aikman was gay or not, neither Aikman nor Switzer admitted it. The claims were never substantiated by a third party. In essence, Bayless made unsubstantiated claims that should not be represented as substantiated truths in a verifiable, non-biased article. There is no need for anything beyond what is in the article right now.→Deser† sapper•≈talk 21:45, 6 March 2007 (UTC)