User talk:Valrith/2006 Archive

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Contents 1 Welcome to Wikipedia! 2 Speedy delete placement 3 yurik/r 4 CSD Criteria 5 Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Acoustic_Guitars_(band) 6 Speedy deletion 7 C. Kumar N. Patel 8 Ellen Perry Berkeley 9 Gideon Dreyfuss 10 Gillian Elisa 11 Shame 12 D C Killingsworth 13 Please be careful when creating categories 14 Removed prod for Cynthia Koh 15 Confederation of Hackers 16 Aquanodd labs 17 Suzi Digby 18 Enigma Software Group 19 Re:Gilbert's Corner 20 Janice Neuberger 21 Marie St. Fleur

[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!

Hello Valrith! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. If you decide that you need help, ask me on my talk page, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Below are some recommended guidelines to facilitate your involvement. And remember, no question is "stupid"; if you have anything, absolutely anything that you'd like to know, feel free to drop on by and leave me a message! :D Happy Editing! Getting Started Wikipedia Tutorial How to edit a page The five pillars of Wikipedia Manual of Style Be bold in editing How to write a great article WikiProjects Getting your info out there Cite your sources Neutral Point of View Point of View Verifiability Uploading images Image use policy Getting more Wikipedia rules Policy Library Getting Help My Talk Page New contributors' help page Where to ask a question Help Desk Frequently Asked Questions Getting along Wikiquette Civility Sign your posts Wikipedians Conflict resolution Getting technical Pages needing attention Peer review Utilities Village pump

GeorgeMoney ☺ (talk) ☺ (Help Desk) ☺ (Reference Desk) ☺ (Help Channel) 23:20, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy delete placement

Please place speedy delete, prod, and other delete tags on the TOP of articles, especially redirects so that they are visible. Thanks! --Signed and Sealed, JJJJust (T C) 18:58, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] yurik/r

Please do not delete sub-pages under yurik - i am using them for testing interwiki bot. Thank you. --Yurik 20:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CSD Criteria

Hi, thanks for the note. As I'm sure you are aware, the thing with the CSD criteria for notability is that it is about asserting notability rather than the person actually being notable. The criteria also says that "only those articles where there is no remotely plausible assertion of notability should be considered". In this case, I felt that the statement about him creating concept and production cars for Nissan, and about developing the relationship between Nissan and Airstream meant that there is at least a "remotely plausible assertion of notability". As such, if we follow the criteria, I'd say that it should really be PRODed or sent to AfD. Hope that clarifies my thinking, and I'd be keen to hear any more thoughts you have on this. Cheers TigerShark 22:01, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

• Ok, I'd never seen the 'no remotely plausible' clause before. That's significantly more restrictive than I thought... Valrith 22:17, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Acoustic_Guitars_(band)

Hello... are you monitoring the discussion? Might you consider withdrawing your nom so we can speedy keep the article? PT ^(s-s-s-s) 22:05, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion

I noticed that you tagged the page Cadboro Bay for speedy deletion with the reason "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information". However, "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information" is not currently one of our criteria for speedy deletion, so I have removed the speedy deletion tag. You can use Wikipedia:Articles for deletion if you still want the article to be deleted. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 23:50, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] C. Kumar N. Patel

Hi. Would you please revisit C. Kumar N. Patel, and see whether the NPOV tag you placed there is still appropriate? Please either delete the tag, or leave a note on the talk page so other editors know what your concern is. Thanks.--Srleffler 06:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ellen Perry Berkeley

You tagged the article Ellen Perry Berkeley for speedy deletion. I just wanted to let you know that I was able to compile a list of her books at the Library of Congress using the catalog at http://catalog.loc.gov , and find some other information on Google, so that I could expand the article and assert notability. Could you please takle a look at the article and make any further changes that seem appropriate? In general, if someone is identified as a writer but the article seems to be speediable, a quick check at the Library of Congress or at Amazon for the person's books may allow you to either expand the article or (if nothing notable is found) to continue with the speedy-delete process. TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 22:42, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gideon Dreyfuss

You tagged the Gideon Dreyfuss article for speedy deletion. I was able to find some additional information. I think that, if an article states that its subject is a professor, then that statement is an assetion of notability, and the article is not eligible for speedy deletion. It may still be eligible for prod or afd, but often a bit of research will find enough evidence that the person is notable. TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 07:22, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gillian Elisa

Isaw that you marked Gillian Elisa for prod. Please do not mark an article for prod without doing a Google search first. I was able to expand the article with the assistance of a quick Google search. TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 18:57, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shame

on you for prodding Alexander Vvedensky, a famous Russian pre-WWII poet. - CrazyRussian talk/email 18:35, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Clearly I know nothing about Russian poetry. However, I still don't see any evidence of the article satisfying WP:BIO... Valrith 20:15, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] D C Killingsworth

Hi, I noticed that you marked Killingsworth's article as CSD A7. Thanks for your input, but I don't think that this is appropriate; the article states that he was an officer in the Civil War and made a significant contribution to the battle of Antietam and others. This is certainly an assertion of notability. If you think he is not notable enough to qualify, then please nominate the article for AfD and have the discussion. I'm not convinced that this should be deleted at all, but no way is this a speedy. --- Deville (Talk) 21:50, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please be careful when creating categories

Please be careful when creating categories to ensure that you are not creating a duplicate (such as your Category:People from New Zealand). Wikipedia has tens of thousands of categories and unless the one you want is very specialised it will almost certainly exist already. Hawkestone 09:41, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok. What do you feel Category:People from New Zealand is a duplicate of? Valrith 20:28, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Category:New Zealand people. Punkmorten 21:25, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed prod for Cynthia Koh

Hello. I removed the proposed deletion tag for this article; she seems to more than pass WP:BIO and the Wikipedia criteria for actresses, having appeared in multiple notable stage and television productions in Singapore, as well as being nominated for major television awards in the company. I have also added a link to her IMDB entry. Crystallina 14:38, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh, which one of these criteria does she meet?

1. Widely recognized entertainment personalities and opinion makers (ie - Hollywood Walk of Fame)
2. Notable actors and television personalities who have appeared in well-known films or television productions. Notability can be determined by:
   1. Multiple features in popular culture publications such as Vogue, GQ, Elle, FHM or national newspapers
   2. A large fan base, fan listing or "cult" following
   3. An independent biography
   4. Name recognition
   5. Commercial endorsements
3. The person has been the primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person. (Multiple similar stories describing a single day's news event only count as one coverage.)

I don't see that any of these applies... Valrith 15:10, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

2, clearly. She has appeared in notable television shows in Singapore - see the wikilinks in the article - and has been nominated for awards for said television shows - see Star Awards. This, I believe, qualifies as name recognition and large fan base. Crystallina 15:25, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Confederation of Hackers

Some time ago you proposed the deletion of Confederation of Hackers. It's now being put to an AfD vote. Anton Mravcek 17:44, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aquanodd labs

aquanodd labs.........keep it

Please do not delete aquanodd labs article..as it is an article which abides by the rules of wik. It is also an article which is greately need to spread the word of these great artists involved in this project..thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.70.141.22 (talk • contribs) 03:03, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

• greatly needed. That's a good one. Valrith 01:09, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suzi Digby

Hi -- just wanted to let you know I made substantial adds to the Suzi Digby article and have removed your prod. Take a look and if you think it still needs more work let me know. --Bookgrrl 02:13, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

• You're right, it's looking better. The article still needs sourcing. I'm still not sure she meets the notability requirements, but I'll take a wait-and-see approach... Valrith 19:57, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Enigma Software Group

Valrith. OK you are correct again. I will leave them. However this is unfair because these comments and votes were made with only half of the information available. And they failed to say what rules of WP:CORP the article was breaking. There haven't been any comments since I have answered your questions and put other links.

My main concern with those comments is they had nothing to do with the rules for deletion that Wikipedia has set forth here WP:CORP. Read the comments again. Please tell me how they apply.

You flagged the article for deletion under WP:CORP. I produced the proof that it does not, I feel that we qualify under the first criteria you disagree.....fine. How do we get a real consensus on this issue

Also, it bothers me because I feel like our company is being unfairly targetted. Can you enlighten me as to why pages like this PC_Tools can exist and yet our company is considered not to be important? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Enigmasoftwaregroup (talk • contribs) 21:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

• My theory about PC_Tools is that it exists because noone has gotten around to nominating it for deletion. If you feel the article doesn't meet the notability requirements, you can nominate it to be deleted. If you marshal your arguments well and enough people agree, the article goes away.

• As to getting a consensus on your article, I think we're getting there. Valrith 01:08, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Gilbert's Corner

Sorry, I thought that the nobility tag was a proposed deletion. They look quite similar. T REX_speak 00:41, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Janice Neuberger

I've removed your speedy deletion notice from the Janice Neuberger article, since the article clearly does assert notability. I'd suggest you might want to use AfD instead. Best, Gwernol 14:28, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Marie St. Fleur

Hey there. You recently tagged the above article as needing citations. I had fleshed it out to save it from Afd -- I've now gone back and sourced it (I believe) properly. Can you go take a look and either give me some feedback on the way I sourced it or, if you're comfortable with the job I've done, remove the tag? I'd remove it myself, but I'd prefer a second opinion. Cheers Dina 19:09, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

• Hi. Looks great to me. I'd still like to see a reference for the 'personal life and education' section, but I think the unsourced tag is no longer warranted generally, so I've removed it. I also modified the referenced articles so that each only shows up once in the 'references' section. Valrith 01:40, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks. I'll check your changes to see how it's done. I should be able to reference the personal life and education section better -- I want to find an article about when she was first elected, it should contain all that info, but most are about the recent controversy. Thanks Dina 02:37, 24 September 2006 (UTC)