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Contents 1 Belated 2 Question of protocol 3 Mike the Rocker 4 Little Superstar 5 Veronica Segura 6 Theories on Columbus' Portuguese origins 7 Thank you 8 Please help 9 AFD relisting 10 Ryan Palmer 11 Highways 12 Categories in AFD 13 subst 14 RfA thanks from StuffOfInterest 15 Forgotten Hope 16 Cory Quirino page...linkless? 17 anti-eyebrow 18 Brigitte L. Nacos flag re links 19 Thank you 20 Import enabled on wikibooks 21 Alcoa theatre 22 User:66.246.83.2 aka User:AnthonyNgo 23 Marshbot 24 Interestingly.... 25 Copyvios 26 Award 27 Jesús Gabaldón 28 Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka 29 linkless BCG_disease_outbreak_in_Finland_in_the_2000's 30 Sorry 31 copying 32 Innuitian Mountains 33 Entropy merge 34 NEWS! article 35 non-copying 36 Praemonitus praemunitus 37 David Eckstein 38 Spoiler NYC page deletion 39 Talk:Ghost ramp 40 Eckstein... 41 TO 42 Wissahickon Creek 43 Furman Center Article 44 RfB With A Smile :) 45 Where's the African Cities list? 46 The forest film in the making 47 Jim Edmonds 48 Tubby Smith 49 links 50 Lonely pages 51 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Superior (proposed state) 52 Ghost ramp, again 53 V for Vendetta (film) 54 AFD decisions 55 Re: Adminship 56 Yarmuth 57 Ask Jolene afd 58 Closing Afd debates 59 List of Australian bush bands 60 deleted article craziness 61 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Balkan 176° 62 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Enochian angels 2 63 Yuvashakti afd

[edit] Belated

Welacome back, sorry I didn't get a chance to show my support at your recent RfA. You have my support, regardless. Peace! Hamster Sandwich 21:25, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! --W.marsh 21:25, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question of protocol

Hi, Ideaworks3d (lower case d) was deleted via PROD. Ideaworks3D redirected to it. Since the main article was deleted, I thought the redirect should / could be speedied --- and I stated that both on the talk page and the comments. You removed the speedy. I've placed a PROD on this article (that was a redirect), per your suggestion, but it seems to me that if the target of the redirect is deleted via PROD or AfD then the redirect itself should not have to go through the same process. I'm just trying to learn, I'm fine with whatever the proper process is ... thanks, Brian 15:13, 30 September 2006 (UTC)btbakk

Actually, recreating a PROD'd article counts as contesting the deletion, or at least that's what consensus seems to be. Since this is technically a different article I'll let the PROD stay up... but the article did assert importance ("leading developer of Mobile and Hand Held") so I didn't really feel speedy deletion was a good idea. Anyway, being a recreation of a PROD'd article isn't a reason to speedy delete either. --W.marsh 15:18, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I just went back through all the logs and see what happened. Ideaworks3D was deleted as a copyvio. Then Ideaworks3d was created and Ideaworks3D was created as a redirect to 3d. I Prod'd 3d and it was deleted. I then went back to 3D (not remembering that it was originally deleted as a copyvio) and put a db-empty on it (probably the wrong tag - it was an orphan redirect at that point). Based on all the history, I've removed the PROD and tagged it as a repost of the copyvio material. I hope this is ok. Thanks for your help and your explanations (and your patience!). Brian 15:51, 30 September 2006 (UTC)btball

[edit] Mike the Rocker

Just looked at page logs and this had previously been deleted in November 2005. –– Lid^(Talk) 02:42, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

I wasn't aware there was a NN warning tag. –– Lid^(Talk) 02:47, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

He's recreated twice; recommend delete and protection against further recreation. ColourBurst 02:48, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

And it's back again with lots of single purpose accounts to defend it to boot. –– Lid^(Talk) 03:34, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Repeating this from the talk page of the deleted article (Talk:Mike the Rocker), I know who this is, and it needs to go. How would you feel about deleting the talk page? I'm not going to do it personally because I know there is lots of important discussion on the page. Bobo. 05:19, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Eh personally I don't see how important the discussion is for keeping, so I've gone ahead and deleted the page. --W.marsh 13:34, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Little Superstar

Why did you delete that article? It was just being started.

Please see WP:VAIN and WP:BIO, having youtube videos isn't really a claim to notability. Please cite an off-youtube source about this guy's importance and I will restore. --W.marsh 02:46, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I was just kind of making the place, but was going to go into him as an actor in Tamil and Bollywood movies. Thanks.

[edit] Veronica Segura

It was not clear to me from the first reading that the actress in question had actually appeared in movie, due to the strange wording of the article. On second view, I understand what the author meant, though I believe the article needs a serious rewrite. ---Charles 02:58, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Theories on Columbus' Portuguese origins

I did not realize the "inuse" template could only be used for 3 hours, so I appreciate your removing it from the article in question. The article is of a highly questionable nature, and I was involved in an edit war with its original author (as one can see from the article history), finally placing the tag in order to give him time to prove the article's validity. I think that he has failed in that endeavor, and I stand by the OR tag I placed on the article more than a week ago. My next step may be to request a peer review. Would you be willing to take a closer look at the article and offer your opinion on its value? Thanks for your time. ---Charles 20:01, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

It's not my area of expertise, I just remove the inuse template from articles if they've been up too long. Anyway I reverted to an earlier version of the article that looks a bit better, I'm not sure what was going on with the other version. Sorry I can't be of more help. --W.marsh 23:57, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

No, it's not my area of expertise, either. I think the article's creator was well-intended, and, as I've said, I wanted to give him the opportunity to improve the article. At this point, I think it is unsalvagable. At this point, AfD may be the next option. ---Charles 00:09, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thanks for taking care of the problem with the guy who was trying to impersonate me. I very much appreciate it. --Alan Au 02:29, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

He's speedy, no doubt! Good work there, beat me too it! Hamster Sandwich 02:31, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please help

I can neither correct the spelling of Gadsbey's Tavern Museum to Gadsby's Tavern Museum nor can I create a link to it from the American Whiskey Trail, where it is listed as part of that trail. Many thanks for any help you can provide.Gadsbey Ghost 23:29, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Should be taken care of now. --W.marsh 23:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AFD relisting

I'll admit I haven't been doing much with AFD lately - however, we know from PROD that it's pretty much okay to delete an article if nobody objects. So from that angle, it seems to me like needless bureaucracy to relist an AFD that has lack of participation. Could you please explain to me the point of relisting? >Radiant< 15:32, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

• For one thing, unlike with PRODs, you can't contest an AfD by just recreating the article, so an AfD decision is somewhat more binding. So that puts in the closer in position of not merely making sure no one contested the deletion, but that it actually makes some sense. For example earlier today I relisted Min Zhou, an article about an academic that asserts some importance, but may not actually meet WP:BIO, but it's debateable. I didn't feel comfortable deleting this wholesale just because no one had bothered commented in the AfD. It does bog AfD down, sure, but even people such as JzG have said they prefer relisting an under-represented AfD to just deleting to article because no one commented on it. --W.marsh 15:37, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ryan Palmer

I believe you made a mistake closing this with no consensus. The only people arguing to keep it were a bunch of pupils at the guy's school and a guy who can't spell professional and seems to believe Jamaica has a professional chess league. Catchpole 20:18, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

• I don't really know much about chess in Jamaica, so unless you mention it in the discussion I can't really take that into consideration. If you'd like to take this to WP:DRV that's probably the best option... unclosing and relisting the AfD at this point seems like a bad idea. --W.marsh 20:31, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Okay thanks for closing it anyway, I guess the backlogs must be frustrating. I'll give the article a few more months, to see if it improves and maybe relist it again. Catchpole 20:36, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Highways

Would it be possible for you to comment on the new section of Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (U.S. state highways)? --NE2 22:12, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant the clusterfuck that's happening at the bottom. --NE2 22:23, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

I will eventually, it's rather convoluted and I don't have the energy right now. I'll see if I have an opinion when I read it all though. --W.marsh 22:24, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

As an administrator, do you think I was right to make this edit to try and restore WikiLove? --NE2 22:31, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

As an admin I don't think you did anything wrong since you seem to be acting in good faith. But personally I'm not a fan of removing comments in most cases, it just ultimately makes things more clear to leave them in until a normal archive occurs, unless they're trolling, misplaced, etc. --W.marsh 22:33, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm. So what do you propose I do if he restores them again? He's given me a vandalism warning that seems to apply only to user and user talk pages. This whole situation, and how quickly things escalate, is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. --NE2 22:39, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Well that seems like an invalid warning. I say just let it cool down, ignore it and talk about the actual issue if possible. It seems like you're acting in good faith, and even if he blocks you it wouldn't be a good idea since he's involved in a dispute with you, so I wouldn't worry too much. Just try not to get too riled up, if at all possible. I'd say he's within his rights to restore the comments though, if he wants to. --W.marsh 22:48, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

I've now been called a troll. Is this standard practice? --NE2 18:25, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

• Well, I don't think you seem like a troll, and calling you one seems a bit insulting. But it's nothing blockable at this point, you could bring it up at WP:PAIN but the admin would probably tell you the same thing. I say tell him you'd prefer not to be called a troll, point him to this diff if you want. No one should have to be called a troll just because people disagree with them. But beyond that... I dunno, the whole argument is messed up, as you probably know better than me. Don't let it keep you from making good contributions. --W.marsh 18:42, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I seem to have made some enemies. Do you have any suggestions? I tried talking on WT:USSH, and it blew up, so I don't have good expectations of getting along with them. --NE2 21:23, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't really know what to tell you. It seems like it's easy to rub this highways crowd the wrong way. They mostly ignore me since I just talk occasionally and never do anything related to actually moving the articles. I found this quote from your editor review kind of amusing: "It is perfectly okay to disagree with consensus, but Wikipedia operates by consensus. Without consensus we cannot get anything done. Thus, your going along with consensus would be appreciated." What does that mean... it's okay to disagree with consensus, just don't tell anyone about it?

I don't really no what else to say... I'd change the highway naming convention if I could, but right now it just seems like it's not going to change, so why really bother? I'm just going to keep pointing out that it's a bizarre and silly policy that sticks out like a sore thumb, and because of that the people responsible for it will continuously be having to answer for it, until it's fixed. --W.marsh 01:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Categories in AFD

I was in two minds whether to mention this given your sterling efforts in keeping AFD running smoothly, but I figure you can always ignore me if it is going to be the straw that breaks your back, so...when closing AFDs can you remove the categorisation template under the title. I use ais523's script to track down broken noms and it uses this category to build the list of open AFDs (so I guess I'm basically saying, can you make my life easier by making your life harder?). Cheers, Yomangani^talk 14:28, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

No, at the risk of sounding like a jerk. This is a process that can easilly be done by a bot, and I suggested that happen, apparently it hasn't yet. As useful as these categories may be, requiring closers to remove them, when closers (as far as I know) never asked for them to be there in the first place, makes a tedius process more tedius. So basically I oppose out of principle, sorry, my fear is that if we just keep adding processes onto closing AfDs, the backlog will get even worse. This seems like a process AWB could do easilly, just run once a day, if the AfD is closed, remove the template, otherwise skip. --W.marsh 14:39, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I quite understand - not a problem. There is actually a bot removing the categories: Bot523 but it is run on an ad-hoc basis and I am impatient. I am against the categories myself and I think there has been a general fall in the number of responses to AFDs since the scheme was introduced (meaning more have to be relisted), but since the change had majority support what can you do? Yomangani^talk 14:54, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

As disorganized as Wikipedia is... I'd never heard of the poll personally, so I wouldn't consider one consensus somewhere to be something that's set in stone. Ultimately since this is something that a bot can do perfectly, it's something that philosophically, I think it should do so human editors can do human tasks. --W.marsh 14:56, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] subst

Hey I was wondering if anyone relist a article on AfD I was going through the backlog and found one that didn't have any "votes" other than the nomination. So I was wondering what the subst for that is and where I could find it if I can thanks. Whispering^(talk/c) 00:49, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

{{relist}}. Remember to remove it from the old AfD page too, otherwise it's still open on that day's log. Thanks. --W.marsh 01:05, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks from StuffOfInterest

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which finished with a tally of 52/6/1 (~90%). It was an interesting process which gave me a chance to learn a bit about myself and about the community. My intention now is to slowly ease into using those additional buttons on my page. No use being over eager and mucking up the works. The support of all those who went over my record and/or rallied to my defense after the big oppose vote was instumental to the success of this review. Again, thank you! --StuffOfInterest 11:33, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Forgotten Hope

Could you restore Forgotten Hope and Forgotten Hope 2 to my user area so I can add sources? I have a number of magazine clippings, and articles and awards from many gaming websites, which I believe will fix the "no references" problem for the former and the "not notable" problem for the latter. Thanks! Ctz 23:06, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cory Quirino page...linkless?

Could you clarify what you mean by "linkless"? I feel that there is a sufficient amount of links in the Cory Quirino page. Are you referring to the red / dead links? I agree that there is just too many of them. Would you want me to get rid of them...i.e. de-link them? The only way I can "introduce links" is to actually create new pages to link to this one...and I feel that would only create more "red / dead links". Please leave a message in this page or the Cory Quirino talk page. Thank you very much. Doberdog 07:53, 14 October 2006 (UTC)Doberdog

Okay, I think I get the hang of it now. I added links in the Elpidio Quirino, List of programs broadcast by Studio 23 and the Alessandra de Rossi page (See the individual talk pages) and by the time you read this, I've removed the "orphan" tag. If you want more links, please contact me at the Cory Quirino talk page. I've looked at the "related topics" in the tag and Benigno Aquino Jr., Cory Aquino and Claro M. Recto are not related to Cory Quirino. Thanks. 202.128.60.13 09:11, 14 October 2006 (UTC)Doberdog

[edit] anti-eyebrow

i saw you tagged this page as orphaned. I just created a body piercing template here, so the article will be linked to the 40 or 50 other piercing articles. Is this sufficient to remove the tag? Naufana : ^talk 01:36, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brigitte L. Nacos flag re links

Could we remove the links question flag at the top of her (Brigitte L. Nacos) article?

There are links to her from the War on Terrorism page. & links from her page at the base of the article. Dogru144 02:02, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for resolving this and getting back to me. BTW, pretty photo of the bridge in winter. Dogru144 02:07, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

My administratorship candidacy succeeded with a final tally of 81/0/1. I appreciate your support. Results are at Wikipedia:Recently_created_admins#Durova. Warmly, Durova 14:57, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Import enabled on wikibooks

Hi, Judging by one of your user subpages, I suspect you're interested in the transwiki to wikibooks process.

We now have import enabled, and the current feeling is to do it that way, rather than copy/paste. If you see any that definitely merit copying, you can always list them on b:WB:RFI, and it will get handled promptly. We're currently waiting for bugzilla to make "Transwiki:" into a full namespace, then we'll be rolling with it faster (using the categories here), but at the moment it's just by request, because at the moment we have to import, then move to transwiki. --SB_Johnny|^talk|_books 14:58, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll look into it. I have the subpage so pages in the category don't show up as orphaned articles though, which is my main area of concern. --W.marsh 15:04, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Wow... good thinking! BTW: if you get a chance, could you have a look at my request on the village pump? I'm a little shy to be bold and just make the templates discussed there, because after making one of them earlier a bot came through and de-fanged it (I never could find any discussion of why that occurred). --SB_Johnny|^talk|_books 15:45, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alcoa theatre

When I created this entry, I included at least twenty links to other Wikipedia articles, so I don't understand why you added the "linkless" template to it. Could you please explain? Thanks! TOM 15:01, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks for your explanation re: the use of the "linkless" template. However, this entry is for a TV series that is 50 years old. What are the odds there would be on-line artcles that could be linked to it? Must every Wikipedia entry include such links? Thanks! TOM 15:09, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

• • Thanks again for your speedy response. Can you please explain, or direct me to an explanation, of an "in link" and where and how it would appear in an article? The link you sent me explains its importance, but clearly I don't understand fully what it means, how it's used, or where it would appear in an entry. I appreciate your patience. TOM 15:19, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:66.246.83.2 aka User:AnthonyNgo

This person is continuing to spread the same link spam on other articles; I noticed you've reverted him several times on the Alabama article, as have I. He/She is now placing it on the Alaska article and Fairbanks articles. [1][2]. AuburnPilot^Talk 20:24, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Since leaving this message, another admin took care of this guy. Thanks for your help reverting him. AuburnPilot^Talk 22:15, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Marshbot

Marshbot added the {{linkless}} template to Glump/Firebirds, which isn't even in the main article space and thus should not have anything linking to it. Might want to fix that. :) --Masamage 00:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

• Glump/Firebirds is indeed in the main (article) namespace. The "/" doesn't make it a subpage or anything in this namespace. At any rate it's clearly meant to be an article so it should have incoming links. --W.marsh 00:28, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, geez. It's supposed to be in User:Glump/Firebirds. My mistake! I'll move it out of the article space. Thanks! --Masamage 00:30, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem, I deleted the article redirect so it should just exist in the userspace now. --W.marsh 00:36, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much! --Masamage 00:37, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interestingly....

I'm glad to see you swatted an "interestingly" in a sentence. There are bazillions of them on Wikipedia. Often when I'm bored, I use the "search" button to look for them. Interestingly, there's almost never a need for that word.

PS: I agree with an awful lot of the opinions on your userpage. Joyous! | Talk 23:24, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyvios

Yeah I just spoke to Dragonfly6-7 about the same thing. Initially I thought it was just me working on them so I was gonna kill them all to get DB off our back, then progressively work my way back as you suggested. Now I know theres at least 4 of us I'll take my time :) Glen 02:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Award

[edit] Jesús Gabaldón

You stated in an edit summary that you're "not quite sure what's going on" with my User Page being tagged for speedy deletion. For an explanation, please see this complaint. Basically, this guy is mad at me for repeatedly nominating his article for deletion.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 16:29, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your attention to this--I appreciate your blocking him--but most of this vandal's damage is done via anonymous accounts.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 16:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka

Thank you very much for your support in my RfA. Unfortunately consensus was not reached, and the nomination was not successful. I do however very much appreciate your comments. I am still very much in support of the Wikipedia project, and will continue to contribute without interruption, especially in the categorization project! Thanks again, --Elonka 07:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] linkless BCG_disease_outbreak_in_Finland_in_the_2000's

There's a link to BCG_disease_outbreak_in_Finland_in_the_2000's in National_Public_Health_Institute_of_Finland, but for some reason it doesn't work, can you help? Jkpjkp 13:25, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Now it works, problem solved. Jkpjkp 13:32, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

Sorry, I genuinely didn't mean to patronise, the heading to my post was supposed to be tongue in cheek, but perhaps it was too strong. However, if we can't point out mistakes to each other as admins then it's a pretty poor world. My comments were not really 'hindsight' since the problems with the article were obvious at the time of the afd. And there really is no need to abuse me in edit summaries. I believe in pointing issues out to people - and I invite them to do the same to me. If you don't agree with my analysis that's fine, just note it and we'll move on. No need for a drama - again sorry if I sounded too critical. --Doc 14:26, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Look, I know I'm not the best guy at taking criticism, but no one mentioned WP:LIVING in that AfD and the article cited 2 references at the time I closed it, so I can only conclude that I assumed good faith 7 months ago by assuming the sources listed backed up the claims, since no one was challenging that. So as far as I'm concerned I only made a mistake if you have 20/20 hindsight or if you expect every AfD closer to redirect the article if every claim in it doesn't have an inline citation (which covers basically every article that goes to AfD). You fixed the problem, thanks, I'm glad you did it. But I do look at articles and I do do my best with WP:LIVING issues. I'm not perfect. --W.marsh 14:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Nor am I, thanks. --Doc 15:24, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] copying

im sorry i will not copy anymore —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Duggie roy@hotmail.com (talk • contribs).

Alright, thanks. --W.marsh 23:48, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Could you take another look at [3], the user above told me that it is not a copyvio but got deleted. I had a look myself and did not find why it was copied from the source.--Konst.able^Talk 23:58, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Innuitian Mountains

I have found some vandalism on the Innuitian Mountains page while i was looking in the list of mountain ranges just to let you know.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Duggie roy@hotmail.com (talk • contribs).

Done. See Help:Reverting for how you can take care of vandalism yourself if you want. --W.marsh 00:41, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Entropy merge

Hi, I agree with your merge (which another user reverted), but only to a different page. Would you please comment on Talk:Entropy#Introduction to entropy. Thanks: --Sadi Carnot 09:00, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NEWS! article

Hello,

I noticed you have added a copyright violation tag on the page I just created on the Network of European Worldshops.

I work at Communications for Fairtrade Labelling Organizations International in Bonn - I am quite passionate about what I do and I have been spending a lot of free time on wikipedia in the past months, considerably improving all the articles on the topic. Since I have been working on both our new website (which was relaunched in August) and on Wikipedia, I have used some of the same texts. I sometimes adapted them to make them sound more neutral, sometimes (in the case of NEWS!) not when I judged their tone appropriate for Wikipedia. Of course, I fully agree with the GFDL licenses... any suggestions on what I should do next to get that tag removed? Should I send an email from my @fairtrade.net address saying I agree with the GFDL licenses? Thank you for your time. Vincentl 16:04, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, releasing permission through e-mail should be enough, if you do own the rights to the text on the page that claims the copyright. Thanks. --W.marsh 16:07, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response! Which email address should I send this to? Thanks again Vincentl 16:09, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

permissions at wikimedia dot org --W.marsh 16:10, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] non-copying

I'm just letting you know that I'm going to redue the ones that I copied.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Duggie roy@hotmail.com (talk • contribs).

Thanks. --W.marsh 20:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Praemonitus praemunitus

Hi!

Can you REDIRECT Forewarned is forearmed to the Latin? --I don't know how to do it.

The reason for my request is that the Latin predominates--the English is merely Its translation.

Thanks. Ludvikus 18:33, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

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Got your message! However:

But the articles are NOT correct.

The article title should be the Latin: Praemonitus praemunitus.

And the English, Forewarned is forearmed, should simply be redirected to this Latin!

It's the Latin that is used, not the English translation. Do you understand me?

So there should not be an article under the English title!

Thanks again! Ludvikus 22:13, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

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Just to make myself clearer!

There should NOT be an article under the English: [[Forewarned is forearmed]!

Clicking or Entering the English should simply call up the Latin titled article: Praemonitus praemunitus--do you understand me? Ludvikus 22:20, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

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My apology!

I think you are right--it has been done already!!!

Best regards, your fellow Wikipedian, Ludvikus 22:25, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] David Eckstein

Well, this isn't cited either:

"Eckstein is a fan favorite in St. Louis, who consider him to be a "pesky" hitter (he chokes up on the bat about 1-2 inches)."

It's just common knowledge that Eckstein is not a very good player. That's why there's no article about it. 70.168.242.15 20:19, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spoiler NYC page deletion

Just wondering why you deleted the Spoiler NYC page??? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Alec Hiddell (talk • contribs).

You're going to need to link to this page for me to know what you're talking about. But most likely you just copy and pasted it from another website that claimed a copyright, which is unacceptable, see Wikipedia:Copyright. --W.marsh 21:19, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Here's the link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoiler_NYC

I didn't set the page up but it looked like the band's bio...I can't believe the band complained about copyright violation.

We take down copyright violations when we realize that they're copyright violations, we don't wait for a complaint. Wikipedia content needs to be liscensed under the GFDL, because sometimes it is resold or profitted from, so we can't knowingly use copyrighted text/images. --W.marsh 16:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Ghost ramp

You might want to contribute to the discussion at Talk:Ghost ramp. --NE2 01:08, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eckstein...

See previous message.

Look, see WP:V and WP:NPOV. If something is actually "common knowledge" it should be easy to find a published source confirming it. If no one's bothered to print something, chances are it's just your opinion. Anyway, if you doubt any of the claims in the article are true, add a {{fact}} tag to them. --W.marsh 03:20, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TO

I don't have a published source, but I talk quite often with high ranking people at U of L who say that he has not pushed harder to have the site redeveloped, even as almost every other brownfield adajacent to it is (like the other Reynolds Bldg or Industry Rd) U of L wants the site to become mixed used and apartments for students. I respect Tom Owen, but I feel that he wouldn't let a site like that sit in his neighborhood. I have had email correspondence with him about this and other things (namely bike lanes & SouBro development) and I personally feel he is sitting on the land to force the price up for U of L to buy it. I interviewed his son about the protect for U of L's dinky paper last year and he stated that they only wanted to get the site 100% filled w/ industrial storage, and had no plans of redeveloping it.

Again, I overall respect him, but on this issue he is lining his own pockets at other people's expense.

67.150.93.18 23:37, 2 November 2006 (UTC)!

[edit] Wissahickon Creek

...was actually User:Bonaparte. Jayjg ^(talk) 03:51, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

• I'm not really surprised... from his first post it was clear he was a sock of somebody or other. Thanks for letting me know. --W.marsh 03:55, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Furman Center Article

Please note that I have created external and internal links to and from the article for the Furman Center for Real Estate and Urban Policy. Thanks for the feedback. Please let me know when I'll be able to see the article via the search engine or when I will be able to locate it on Wikipedia?

[edit] RfB With A Smile :)

[edit] Where's the African Cities list?

Hey Now!

All of a sudden you deleted a GREAT page of African cities.

How come?

[edit] The forest film in the making

In searching your site for film makers, of which i have found many, I havent found any films or film makers who have shared there secrets publicly. We are only just starting to germinate so to speak, I am making all the eqipment by hand from recicled materials (this i would like to share on your site) along with the making of photos of the production of the movie. When i typed in The Forest into your search I found 1 link to another movie by the same title and feel it only fair others find us here too! second I found 1 link to a game called the forest by nintendo which is blatant advertising of a company is it not?

perhaps you would like the removal our busines "hot cocky films" which can be done. we have no problem with that.

kind regards M Zilm CAMTECC for (hot cocky films)

[edit] Jim Edmonds

I do not know why you changed the Jim Edmonds article I edited. I was born and raised in St. Louis and currently attend school here. In St. Louis, no one has ever called Edmonds "Jimmy Basesball". That sounds like as if it was coined by an ignorant fan, of the game, due to a crush on the big guy. In St. Louis we call him "Hollywood Edmonds". He looks like an action star. Take one look at him and he looks as comfortable swinging a bat as he would kicking down a brick wall decked out in camo holding an M-16 throwing led into Russian terrorits. Hence the name, "Hollywood Edmonds". Thanks for your time.

-Eddie

[edit] Tubby Smith

You continue to revert MY edits, which are actually more neutral and factual than the overhyped UN-objective puffery that you submit concerning Tubby Smith. What makes you think your unqualified praise of Tubby is more deserving of space than the FACTS that I submit? You claim that UK fans expect "nothing less" than Final Four from Tubby, but the FACT is that Tubby has NEVER taken a club he built to a Final Four, in his entire career. The ONLY time Tubby ever went to a Final Four was in 1998 with the team BUILT BY PITINO. And if you think there aren't people out there more objective than you, I encourage you to read this FOX SPORTS article just published today which mentions Tubby's perceived "success" that you so wildly proclaim: http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/6110884

[in relevant part, it reads: Coach who may get fired: Tubby Smith, Kentucky. The Wildcats haven't been to the Final Four since 1998. This year, they'll be on the tournament bubble in March. Poor recruiting leaves Smith in a precarious position.] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.226.73.149 (talk • contribs).

[edit] links

Hi, I am new to wikipedia and am very unsure about why my page keeps saying that there are not enough links? Could I get some help on what to do here? Thanks SMason

[edit] Lonely pages

The good news is that the SQL would indeed be pretty straightforward to run on the full database. The less-good-news is that I can't run such a query immediately, as I don't have a rebuilt database table corresponding to the one that information is stored in: (pagelinks, as opposed to categorylinks and page, which are the ones I usually work with). It's also much larger than those two: I might have some difficulty building that table on the disk I'm using at present. I'll see if I can rejig things to use a different disk, or if necessary a different computer. That might take me a while, and the build itself is likely to take a fair bit of time, so hopefully you're not in a desparate hurry. It seems a bit daft that the special page is truncated at 1000; it doesn't look as if the whole list would be more than 2-3k, if the alphabeticisation is anything to go by. Alai 05:40, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah, of course if they're being emptied "from the front", that's going to skew the alphabetic distribution: didn't think of that. I'm going to have a bash at this over the weekend, partly so's I don't have to be around to listen to the horrible disk-grinding noises. If the table builds successfully, the actual query should be no problem; if not, I'll think about how to proceed from there. Alai 20:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Incidentally: I'm assuming what you're looking for is articles with no links from the article space, as distinct from those with no links whatsoever. Correct me if that's not right. Alai 01:34, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

OK, here's the list -- or rather lists, didn't seem to like being uploaded in one go.

• User:Alai/orphansA-L
• User:Alai/orphansM-O
• User:Alai/orphansP-R
• User:Alai/orphansS
• User:Alai/orphansT-Z

Looks like you're right about the mainspace-link orphans; that seems to be very considerably larger, getting on for another 50,000 in addition to the above. I'll see if I can write a query to find the articles with no article links that are no already tagged as "linkless". If you have a means of double-checking these, then please do: I already found one batch of false-positives, due to having "missed" one batch of links, so I wouldn't be surprised if there are further such errors, so please let me know if you find any. (Obviously in addition, many have been deleted, or had links added since the db dump (which was on the 31st). Alai 10:24, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Excellent, always nice to see a satisfied customer. It's probably a very good thing your bot does said checking: I can't rule out major gotchas, especially due to the piecewise way I ended up building the links table (not to mention the information being several days out of date now). Should be easier to do second time around, but still not something I'll be likely to be doing as regularly as I work with the other tables. Counting links-from-articles-and-your-user-space is possible, though on the whole it's probably easier just to exclude those marked as "linkless", as that's category information (which is somewhat more manageable, and which I'm trying to keep up to date after each dump). Alai 21:57, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Superior (proposed state)

Please see Vanderbilt University source and consider changing your vote. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Superior (proposed state) MPS 18:29, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ghost ramp, again

What do you think about Talk:Ghost ramp#"Reliable sources" poll? --NE2 22:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't really know road websites well enough (or at all) I'm afraid. If they're written by experts with credentials and experience that would help... if it's just another set of internet people looking at Google Maps, I'd agree that they're not very reliable. --W.marsh 22:46, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

It's a neologism - a term that came about through discussions on misc.transport.road. There's never been a clear definition of the term. --NE2 23:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] V for Vendetta (film)

Thought you should know... --badlydrawnjeff talk 17:30, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Two things: One, the discussion is still ongoing. I'm reaching my wit's end at this point, think you could dive in on this? Two, I took care of the issues at the Kroger Babb FAC if you don't mind taking a quick look. Thanks, sir. --badlydrawnjeff talk 21:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AFD decisions

Hi, I was wondering if you could take another look at these AFDs you recently closed; Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I Never Told You What I Do for a Living, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cemetery Drive and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/You Know What They Do to Guys Like Us in Prison. Personally I think the consensus reached was 'merge and redirect', but I'm not asking about that. The point I was trying to make with these AFDs was to try and dissuade people from trying to create an article for every song of their favourite band, especially taking into account Wikipedia:WikiProject Music/Notability and Songs. These particular articles are for songs that definitely have no real claim to notability and the articles themselves are all rather short and are mostly made up of what people think the meaning of the song to be, they also do not contain a single reputable source. Thanks for your time. Timkovski 18:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Adminship

Thanks for your advice. As I told to Interiot, I believe adminship is something you need to need. Until a month ago, I did not need it for myself, because I was focused on cleaning external links. However, both explained to me that, in order to be a good admin, you don't need to spend more time using the tools than editing. And with this you dismissed one of my fears: that I would disappoint people who trust me with such tools. If I can give a hand with the backlogs, copyright issues and anything that might be bothering around, I will gladly present myself in the near future for a request to see if others do agree. Thank you again. -- ReyBrujo 21:27, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yarmuth

Wave3 is reporting w/ 100% in Yarmuth has won. No time machine needed now! http://www.wave3.com/global/link.asp?L=214150

Well I'm waiting for him to declare victory or a CJ story that he won, but you can update the article with the early report if you like. --W.marsh 02:06, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ask Jolene afd

Hello W marsh, I noticed that you recently deleted the ask jolene article, although I really don't especially care since I only created it as a peripheral matter to another article in a subject that I have never even edited before, I still must admit I am somewhat surprised about the deletion considering the fact that the result of the vote was 5 keeps to 6 deletes which would usually result in a no consensus. I don't really know anything about the site but from the other keeps on the afd it seemed like the alexa rating was not the only argument in favor of keeping.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 19:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Closing Afd debates

Hey. I've noticed that you almost never remove the "REMOVE THIS TEMPLATE WHEN CLOSING THIS AfD" template when you close Afd's. Can you please try to do this in the future? --- RockMFR 02:28, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Also, please check "what links here" when deleting an article, especially for redirects. Thanks. --- RockMFR 02:32, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

This is a task that could be done by bots, even just by AWB, as I've explained before... I don't see the need to make closing AfDs more tedius for humans, sorry. I object in principle. --W.marsh 02:34, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

I routinely go through the sub-categories to monitor AfD debates. When a category is 90% filled with closed debates, it is incredibly frustrating. It wouldn't take you more than a second to remove the template when closing. --- RockMFR 02:36, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

And then someone adds another process for closers to follow without asking closers, and it takes 2 seconds, then 3... then all of the sudden it takes 5 minutes for the procedural part of closing an AfD. I don't think you're understanding what I mean by "object in principle". --W.marsh 02:37, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

There are proper procedures to follow when closing Afd debates, none of which you seem to ever do. This is a pretty low expection for a sysop. --- RockMFR 02:39, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

I never asked for those procedures... they weren't there when I started closing AfDs. I suggest you stop nagging the people who thanklessly deal with the AfD backlog day in, day out... we might just stop dealing with it. --W.marsh 02:42, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Rock, in all seriousness, you could probably ask one of the folks who run a bot to have it run thought the categories every 12 hours and remove the templates. I can't imagine it'd be too difficult. --badlydrawnjeff talk 02:45, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Australian bush bands

Hello, you seem to have hastily closed discussion on the deletion of an article I began entitled List of Australian bush bands. I had no opportunity to contribute to this discussion (which apparently consists of the negative comments of only two editors), as I have just returned from traveling for five days. In addition, I had no opportunity to merge the text into the article about the history of Australian bush bands. I do work hard at Wikipedia and believe I am the 77th most prolific contributor, and I feel strongly about documenting this little known musical tradition for our users. Regardless of what the editors who felt strongly about deleting my work believe, the names of bands performing this music are important. I hope you will give me the chance to merge this data, which I hope is not irretrievably lost following this overly hasty decision. Thank you for this and I look forward to hearing from you. Badagnani 04:04, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] deleted article craziness

hi

i started an article called "the garment district", cambridge, ma it was deleted as 'advertising'. i think that was wrong. this store has a major amount of press and articles in major newspapers and national media, therefore its relevance is more than sufficient for wikipedia. this is unfair.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Goscaranderson (talk • contribs).

• Eh, it seemed like advertising to me... "The Garment District is known as a good place to find affordable fabulous clothing as well as a place which gives the shopper a unique and cultural experience." Wikipedia is not an advertising service. If you recreate it, see WP:CORP, you should assert meaningful coverage of the store by 3rd party publications. --W.marsh 14:59, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Balkan 176°

Can you explain why you thought there was no consensus on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Balkan 176°? Nobody except Unfocused (talk • contribs) really indicated that the article should be kept; there were two merge opinions, but the rest were basically for delete. So, I think it really shouldn't be considered a lack of consensus. --Nlu (talk) 19:14, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Enochian angels 2

Shouldn't the outcome be "keep" instead of "no consensus"? Only 3 people called for delete while 8 people called for keep. Kavadi carrier 14:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yuvashakti afd

Hi, you recently deleted Yuvashakti, would you mind providing the content from the deleted article, since it contains updated information not found on Sahaja Yoga. Thx. (You could copy it to a subpage on my Userspace). Sfacets 14:15, 10 November 2006 (UTC)