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[edit] Next Generation Boeing 737's
What exactly does this term mean, and why is it used repeatedly? There are all 737s in their fleet, so what's the distinction between the normal ones and the "Next Generation" ones? 24.76.141.128 03:09, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
- It's identified in Boeing 737. I could not find a way to cleanly link this since it is near the end of the history section. If someone can see a clean way to make it a link feel free to do so. Vegaswikian 00:41, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
- NG aircraft are quieter, more fuel efficient, larger, and offer more leg room as well as LiveTV on some aircraft. Phoenix2 05:03, August 11, 2005 (UTC)
The NG 737 aircraft are a re-designed version of the venerable B737 family. While the body design may look the same the aircraft is considered to be so different from the original models that a pilot cannot automatically fly the NG's just because he/she can fly the classics. The cockpit on a NG is a "glass" cockpit dominated by 6 Display Units or screens. The aircraft integrates the lastest in navigational technology. The NG's are outfitted with low slung, high bypass CFM engines while the older models come with a low bypass. fuel inefficent JTD engine. The NG comes in four different sizes ranging from the 600, 700, 800 and finally the 900. The difference between each is length and therefore capacity.
737NGs (for the most part) are certified for ETOPS (Extended Twin Engine Operations), which allow long range flights over water (Mainland to Hawaii/Mainland to Europe). The Older 737s (Series -100 thru -500) were not. This is an impressive destinction, allowing smaller carriers with this airplane a bite of the cherry on long range routes. For the Most Part, 737NGs are also certified for winglets, which earlier models (with the exception of a few Series -300s) have not. These "Winglets" (Winglets) can reduce fuel burn by 4%, enabling longer range and more efficent use of fuel. The engines also pollute a noticable amount less. These are all impressive destinctions over the older 737s.---VonVeezelsnider 00:29, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
- This explanation is not completely correct with regards to the engine descriptions. While the 737NG does have high bypass CFM engines, so does the 2nd generation 737s (-300, -400, and -500), albeit an older version. Only the 1st generation 737s (-100 and -200) have the low bypass JT8D engines. -- Hawaiian717 18:49, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Destinations
Someone may want to take to the time to convert the destinations to what appears to be a standard format by country and state/provience. See United Airlines destinations or America West Airlines destinations. And yes, they can be in a new article or left here. Vegaswikian 00:41, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
- Done by myself as of July 20th.Knest 03:38, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Removing Copyright notice
I have just removed the strange copyright notice about the image. This information belongs on the image page, not in the main article. And, in fact, it is on the image page. I see no reason why this information should have it's own section in the main article. -- Fudoreaper 21:34:10, 2005-08-04 (UTC)
[edit] Hubs/Focus Cities
If anyone knows the actual Westjet hubs and focus cities, perhaps in order of daily departures, that would be appreciated; I don't think I have it correct at this time. Phoenix2 05:02, August 11, 2005 (UTC)
WestJet's hubs are Calgary and Toronto. I would say the focus cities are Vancouver and if I had another in there it would be Winnipeg,and Edmonton.
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Westjet's only hub is Calgary with about 65 daily departures. Vancouver and Toronto are focus cities (trade back an forth regarding frequency ranking of 2nd or 3rd; they have 40-45 daily departures. Edmonton is a solid fourth place.
- WestJet Western Canada operations hub is located in Calgary while in Eastern Canada, it is located in Hamilton. Nowhere does it say on WestJet's website does it say that Toronto's Pearson is used as WestJet's hub. http://c3dsp.westjet.com/guest/about/historyTemplate.jsp
- Also, please show your signatures when editing the talk page.
- --Feelgood 01:40, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- The eastern hub IS Toronto. It does not say it on the website, however I asked WestJet and they verified it as being Toronto. All you have to do is ask. Their only "base" is Calgary. Archer 10:10, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- Their website states that Hamilton was their eastern hub in 1999, but makes no mention of a switch to Toronto. --Kmsiever 14:53, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- Toronto is the eastern hub, as they have a full connection facility and have tail-to-tail connections, as well as over 40 flights a day. Calgary by comparison has over 50-60 in a day. No other station comes close to this many flights in a day - Winnipeg, Vancouver and Edmonton are about the next in line. Hamilton is now really a "spoke" on WestJet's system, with less than 10 flights a day. By this measure, it is not a hub or focus city - Halifax gets roughly the same number of flights. --Knave 21:15, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree with Toronto being a hub. Vancouver, Edmonton, Winnipeg, and perhaps even Kelowna deserve "hub" status if you can arbitrarily choose Toronto as a hub. Personally, my definition of a hub would be where crew is based. In-Flight, and the Pilots are based completely in Calgary. I think you can even listen to a WestJet conference call a couple of quarters ago and they discuss whether Toronto would become a hub with crews based there. (Not entirely certain a reference to hub was used, but it would certainly back my argument up with some sound evidence.) Calgary is a unique city in the WestJet network and as such should be the only "hub" listed. Toronto may have the second most non-stop flights after Calgary, but it is being labeled a "hub" arbitrarily. That is to say the only reason is it labeled a hub is because someone decided the amount of Non-stops out of Vancouver wasn't enough to consider it a hub, which in my opinion is silly. The question I ask is how do you differentiate between Calgary and Toronto if they are both hubs then? There is a major difference and one that should be ultimately reflected in hub status. So I strongly suggest hub to be used only with Calgary as it is the only destination in WestJet's network to have Pilot and In-Flight bases. Oh and if you don't agree with me, try finding a job as a Pilot or Flight Attendant at the Toronto hub. :) --Dbroda 13:30, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Toronto's hub status is based on the fact that it has connection flights on a large scale, rivalling only Calgary; it is also the major centre for their cargo operation and other parts. No other city comes close.
If you work for WestJet, feel free to call and ask someone in their Operations centre if they have only one or two major hubs, and which cities they are. Myself or someone else will be happy to tell you. :) Knave 02:25, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
WestJet has no hubs, per se. Its flights are based on a point-to-point model. Anything that looks like a hub is purely coincidence.
- If YUL is to be considered a 'focus' city based on departures, then there are other candidates more worthy - like YWG and YHZ, both of which have frequent connection flights that YUL does not. YUL is a 'spoke' on the WestJet system. Knave 20:55, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I can assure you that Toronto is indeed considered a hub by Westjet. The article is correct in the fact that the eastern hub was originally Hamilton, then was changed to Toronto in 2004. When this change was made, Westjet traffic at the Hamilton airport dropped significantly to just a handful of flights per day. I took the suggestion and asked. This information comes from a current employee and former manager of Westjet who are based in the Hamilton airport. SJM 15 January 2007
[edit] History
I notice that the history mentions that service to Fort McMurray, Comox, Sault Ste. Marie, Thompson and Brandon was dropped. While this may be true, the service to Fort McMurray and Comox has been reinstated quite some time ago. (I am unsure of the status of the other aformentioned destinations). I know that Fort McMurray and Comox is listed in the current link for Destinations, but perhaps this should be changed in the History section as well? Any thoughts on this? SJM 15 January 2007
[edit] New Fleet
WestJet is in considering the new Boeing 787 Dreamliner for it's fleet. The aircraft will enter service around 2013. It will be used to expand routes into the Caribbean and Europe. They are also in serious talks about joining oneWorld. FlyAirCanada 11:46, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Really? Can you provide reference for your information? The OneWorld info is not surprising, as they have been contemplating this for several years, but the Boeing 787 is surprising. Especially since Wings Magazine just published in this months edition that Westjet has just secured a deal with a Singapore company to lease 9 more 737's once their current delivery schedule with Boeing expires. SJM 20 February 2007
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- Here's a link, I will provide more information soon. FlyAirCanada 11:44, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] US Flag Icons in Fleet Section
I noticed US flags have been added to the fleet section. I have not seen this on any other articles. Is it really nessacary? To me it seems confusing. Greenboxed 17:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
