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Archive 1: May 2006

[edit] The Catholic Encyclopedia

I think that using material from the CE is a good idea, but since the public domain editions are all pre-1923, we should not use entire articles, but merely sections from it with other updated material. --Ronconte 12:31, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Of course. See Wikipedia:Catholic Encyclopedia topics. —Mira 17:53, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Theological Disagreements

How should we handle theological disagreements? There are many theological questions within any topic that are a matter of legitimate dispute among theologians and the faithful. It is not always clear what is and is not official Church teaching. --Ronconte 12:31, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

To the extent, that it is clear that there is an official Church teaching, that should be documented with supporting source citations. If there is room for debate, that should also be stated. However, in these cases, it may be difficult to source the fact that there isn't an official Church teaching so we will have to be satisfied with mentioning the different positions with source citations of who wrote it and where.

--Richard 14:28, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Also, how should we approach the widespread dissent against official Church teaching among Catholics? Should many articles have a section for the dissenting point of view? The same question arises when Protestants disagree with Catholic teaching. Should be have a section in each article saying why Protestants disagree on each point? --Ronconte 12:31, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

This has been the subject of a long discussion that started on Talk:Criticism of the Catholic Church but moved to Talk:Roman Catholic Church. See the sections titled "The 'Assessment of Church Doctrine' Section", "Where to put criticism of Catholic doctrine and church governance?", "Mass Merging" and "An Alternate Proposal"

The consensus after all this discussion was to fold the criticism into specific articles (e.g. Catholic Church and human sexuality). Thus, there would be a statement of the Catholic Church's position on various aspects of human sexuality followed by a statement of criticisms of those positions. I'm not sure if it would be Position on A, Position on B, Position on C followed by Criticism of A, Criticism of B, etc. or Position on A followed by Criticism of A, etc.

To the extent that criticisms differ between Catholics and Protestants, these differences should be drawn so that the reader understands which positions are dissents from withih the Church vs. criticisms from without the Church.

--Richard 14:28, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Also, there can be no authentic dissent if the topic has been decided and stated as a Dogma. One must hold and believe the doctrines stated by the Church, so they also can't be fodder for dissent. If the topic is up in the air, then have at it. poopsix 10:00, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

That is merely the party line, Poopsix, and does not reflect facts on the ground. The facts on the ground are that many Catholics can, and do, disagree with official Church teachings, even with Dogma. — Rickyrab | Talk 23:29, 15 March 2007 (UTC)