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Contents 1 High Importance Articles 2 CALM and Naturebase external links 2.1 To-do 3 Final call for Hamersley 4 Jimbo in Perth, 24 April 4.1 Meetup 5 78 Records 6 South Lake, Atwell, Hope Valley 7 Brian Burke etc 8 Rottnest photos 9 Election article. 10 Western Australian Sports Star of the Year 11 Music List 12 History of Perth Category 13 Election article - the sequel 14 Cyclones 15 Image:Perth County 1886.jpg 16 Location bases 17 Peter Holland 18 Need for work on Western Australian Aboriginal Groups 19 WA article statistics 20 TC George 21 Ghost towns 22 TFD 23 Meetup

[edit] High Importance Articles

Murujuga

• Also known as the Burrup Peninsula or Dampier Rock Art Precinct.

Key points

• Standing stones, alignments (1000's)
• 10 000y+ to present (pre ice age, at least 8 000 y.o.)
• avian, marine and terrestial fauna detailed
• extinct species e.g. thylacine detailed
• World Heritage, Top 100. Threatened
• They got dugong, how can it fail to please.

go to the talk page for more ... (Date added for archiving) 13:55, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CALM and Naturebase external links

Most of the Wikipedia links to www.calm.wa.gov.au are broken with the website change from CALM to Naturebase. As many of these broken links are listed in Wikipedia:Dead_external_links#Downloads, there is a danger that well meaning editors will simply go through the article list and remove the broken links. The articles need to be gone through manually and relinked by searching naturebase.net. —Moondyne 01:54, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I had that problem with the Nanga Brook article - turned up in a completely different location on the new site. Orderinchaos78 05:26, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

The bad news is the DEC have adopted one of those annoying content systems that completely obscure the URLs, so there's no easy fix. The good news is the list isn't all that long, as many of them are links from Wikipedia:Dead external links. The list of links that actually need fixing follows. Hesperian 05:53, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I'd be careful as to what you decide to go about fixing. Due to the merger of CALM and DOE, they are in the middle of consolidating their seperate CMS systems. I don't know if CALM Naturebase will be staying in it's current Joomla environment, but I will find out. You obviously don't want to go fixing these links to find out a few months down the track they'll be changing or screwed up again. Will try and get some more information soon. thewinchester 07:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Once this list is done we should ensure it stays somewhere in the archives so that if a second change does occur we can easily trace back what we did. Orderinchaos78 08:42, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

All CALM links have now been replaced. —Moondyne 04:35, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] To-do

41 of 41 links fixed

1. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/ linked from Bilby
2. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/ linked from Protected areas of Australia
3. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/ linked from Protected areas of Western Australia
4. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/hamelin_pool_mnr.html linked from Hamelin Pool Marine Nature Reserve
5. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/rudall.html linked from Talk:Great Sandy Desert
6. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/cape_range.html linked from Cape Range National Park
7. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/fitzgerald.html linked from Fitzgerald River National Park
8. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/geikie_gorge.html linked from Geikie Gorge National Park
9. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/gloucester.html linked from Gloucester National Park
10. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/mount_augustus.html linked from Mount Augustus National Park
11. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/purnululu.html linked from Purnululu National Park
12. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/walpole_nornalup.html linked from Walpole-Nornalup National Park
13. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/wolfe_creek.html linked from Wolfe Creek Meteorite Crater National Park
14. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/gloucester.html linked from Gloucester Tree
15. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/shark_bay_marine_park.html linked from Shark Bay Marine Park
16. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/beeliar_rp.html linked from The Spectacles, Western Australia
17. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/monkeymia_reserve.html linked from Monkey Mia
18. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/gloucester.html linked from Diamond Tree
19. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/porongurup.html linked from Porongurup National Park
20. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/devonian_feature.html linked from Kimberley Region, Western Australia
21. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/lesueur.html linked from Lesueur National Park
22. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/leeuwin.html linked from Karridale, Western Australia
23. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/devonian_feature.html linked from Great Barrier Reef
24. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/serpentine.html linked from Darling Scarp
25. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/rowley_shoals.html linked from Rowley Shoals
26. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/plants_animals/bird_emu.html linked from Emu War
27. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/plants_animals/pdf_files/sp_boodie.pdf linked from Boodie
28. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/plants_animals/pdf_files/sp_brush-tailed_phascogale.pdf linked from Phascogale
29. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/plants_animals/pdf_files/sp_numbat.pdf linked from User talk:Froggydarb Not fixed - talk page
30. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/plants_animals/pdf_files/sp_quenda.pdf linked from Southern Brown Bandicoot
31. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/plants_animals/tree_karri.html linked from Eucalyptus diversicolor
32. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/projects/dieback_impacts.html linked from Banksia
33. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/projects/dieback_impacts.html linked from Ecology of Banksia
34. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/projects/west_shield.html linked from Sodium fluoroacetate
35. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/projects/west_shield_eden.html linked from Bilby
36. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/science/bio_audit/pdf_files/swan_coastal_plain02_p606-623.pdf linked from User:SDavies/in progress
37. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/science/turtles.html linked from Dampier, Western Australia
38. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/tourism/freo_ab_heritage_walk.html linked from Fremantle, Western Australia
39. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/tourism/hills_forest/places.html#Lesmurdie linked from Lesmurdie Falls National Park
40. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/tourism/hills_forest/places.html#Lesmurdie linked from Lesmurdie, Western Australia
41. http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/tourism/valley_of_the_giants.html linked from Walpole-Nornalup National Park

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Signing here too so that the bot knows to archive this section. Hesperian 04:36, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Final call for Hamersley

Orderinchaos78 is about to put in the images and send it to FAC. I've done a bit of work on it today. if anyone can think of anything else and also review my images list on the talk page and see if it's excessive or not then we can put them on and list it - thanks! DanielT5 12:11, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Wish me luck! And thanks heaps to Hesperian, Gnangarra, Daniel and anyone else who helped get it where it is now. Orderinchaos78 14:42, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Let me be the first to congratulate you :) DanielT5 08:18, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

And it was well done from him., and well done from him- SatuSuro 08:21, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks guys :) I was prepared for the worst, I think it was a hell of a lot of preempting of issues on everyone's part that meant it got a fairly easy run. Now to find another one to work on... Orderinchaos78 08:41, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jimbo in Perth, 24 April

http://www.educationau.edu.au/jahia/Jahia/challenging. Hesperian 02:16, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

$300 incl GST  :| Orderinchaos78 05:42, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Forget that; I was thinking the poor bugger might like some company over dinner. Hesperian 05:45, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Whats the bet that no-one in the wiki heirarchy/ jimbo minder dept even looks at the wa project or its trappings before coming here - 1 round at the next meetup i make it on that ! SatuSuro 08:03, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I reckon you'll be wrong - and 1st round on me if I'm mistaken. I'm clearing my diary for a dinner invite on the 24/4. —Moondyne 08:24, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I thinks we have a date range for the next meetup somewhere between 23-25 April, since he's in Adelaide on the 23rd and in Sydney on the 26 given the restrictions to aircraft in sydney his flight will probably be during the day on 25th. How about we send him an email with an invite to a meetup for late drinks on the 24th. Gnangarra 12:43, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh hell that means I shout first round... do it! - maybe signed on behalf of the 1st meetup group - iand on behalf of all the rest ? SatuSuro 12:48, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

moving discussion about possible meetup to Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Perth —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gnangarra (talk • contribs) 13:15, 27 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Meetup

As a reminder to all WP WA participants, the next WP Perth project meetup is currently being proposed to coincide with a visit to Perth by Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales, a breakfast with himself is being mooted.

• Where: TBD
• When: Tuesday 24 April 2007.
• Time: Meetup proper from 07:00 till 08:30 or when you have to leave
• Menu: TBD

For more information on the meetup, plans, and to register your attendance, please visit Wikipedia_talk:Meetup/Perth#Meetup_2. thewinchester 07:17, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 78 Records

I see 78 Records was speedied today[1] despite passing AfD a few months ago... is this legit? Nachoman-au 11:42, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I have restored the article. Gnangarra 12:01, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Good call Grangarra. 78's is an important piece of the fabric and evolution of the WA music scene. Hopefully there's some music buffs out there who can add some more weight to the article. thewinchester 12:12, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Follow up -- I've notified both the nominator and the admin who deleted the article that I have restored it. Gnangarra 12:20, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Well done - it needs some companions to get through windter - anyone else for tricky perth items- anyone for a London Court article? SatuSuro 12:44, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/78 Records (2nd nomination) It has been nominated at AfD Gnangarra 05:24, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] South Lake, Atwell, Hope Valley

Anyone know any more about this area than I do? (i.e. next to nothing beyond where they are, postcode, etc) Orderinchaos78 17:20, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brian Burke etc

Please note that some editors are discussing our one and only - at the main Australian project notice board -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Australian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board

He is of course one of our own - so we need to be kept up with this! Maybe WA project persons might be interested to join in. SatuSuro 10:43, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Done a bit of a touch up today. See what you think. It6 has to be relevant to the man of course. petedavo 09:28, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rottnest photos

If anyone is going over soon, I need photos of:

• Wadjemup lighthouse
• The anchor near the welcome centre (from the City of York)
• Anitra hull (it was near the museum, but I admit when I was there in January I don't recall seeing it)
• any other maritime related photos eg. onshore plaques of wrecks.

Thanks —Moondyne 12:55, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Election article.

Someone has written a vaguely adequate but substandard election article at Western Australian election, 2005 (I had to move it to the correct spelling as they had "West Australian")... my biggest problem with it is it wears a strong bias about the prospects of the Liberals going into the election. Noone ever thought they had a hope of winning but thought they might win some marginals, but the Feds came in and blew up the coalition so they wasted their time fighting the Nats. I think the extreme right agenda didnt help in the city either, that was announced in October or November well before the election. DanielT5 13:56, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

You're not wrong. The article's been written with very little knowledge of the local political scene and reliance on an expert from ECU who basically qualifies as an "educated watcher" rather than a David Black or a Greg Craven (the West use him a fair bit), and in its current form could not be upgraded past Start class in my opinion. The section on the seat changes doesn't tell me clearly what I already know, it's all lost in the details. Libs and Labor getting back seats from retiring independents, while important in the result, is not actually critical to the understanding as it's the entirely expected result. I agree that there seems to be a Liberal POV in there and we need to make it a priority to fix it. Orderinchaos78 14:52, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I have done my bit trying to fix this page. I used a template constructed by another user which was far more readable and attempted to summarise some of the goings on in the lead. It's not even close to complete but it's the best I can do in 30 minutes. :) DanielT5 16:17, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Good changes Daniel :) I've put in minor changes to the 1993-2005 elections to bring them into line with MOS and other stuff. They're all very basic but at least we've managed to steer around the problems identified above. When I get time after doing the geography stuff, I'll do what I can to bring these up to B class or higher, although sourcing will be a problem. If anyone knows any good sources about these four elections (or has anything to add) I'd love to know - I really want to use News Ltd and the West as sources as little as possible, as both were identifiably inaccurate during at least two of the polls. I remember browsing a good book about 2001 which delved into the Bloffwitch car deal and Kingstream in some depth, I'd love to find that again. Orderinchaos78 03:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Western Australian Sports Star of the Year

The last award currently listed is for 2005 and refers to a presentation in January 2006. Was there a 2006 award? —Moondyne 04:37, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[2] Hesperian 05:09, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. updated. —Moondyne 00:00, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Music List

Please see the main project page for the potential immanent deletion of the Musician List - perhaps as a project we need to decide what to do with this!SatuSuro 01:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History of Perth Category

Category:Histories of cities in Australia does not have such for Perth - admittedly other states havent populated their categories - but nothing for Perth? Interesting to see whether anyone is interested in either articles for - or tying in - with such a category - seeing that the other cities have one . SatuSuro 02:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, we had this category, but it was vastly underpopulated, and during the brouhaha over categories with an undisambiguated "Perth" in the title, we simplified matters by upmerging its contents to Category:History of Western Australia. I have no opinion on whether it should be recreated now, but if it is decided to recreate it, we should think carefully about whether it should be at Category:History of Perth or Category:History of Perth, Western Australia.Hesperian 04:00, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I say create it, and as Category:History of Perth, Western Australia. —Moondyne 07:13, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Given the consensus was to disambiguate, it should be per Moondyne. Orderinchaos78 11:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Election article - the sequel

We're now debating what to name the election articles for WA. Please see main project page. Orderinchaos78 11:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cyclones

Out of curiosity - do we have/have we had separate articles on any of the w.a. cyclones at all? - or is it for australia? SatuSuro 12:56, 10 March 2007 (UTC) OOps - just found Category:Cyclones in Australia clearly unedrpopulated and not linked to either an article or list of substance SatuSuro 13:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not aware of any WA cyclone articles. —Moondyne 15:35, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I think Cyclone Alby and Cyclone Vance are the only two. Hossen27 12:05, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Well I'll be! Thanks Hossen27. —Moondyne 12:13, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

No probs, Cyclone Alby was actually the first article i ever started. Also should we create an article on Cyclone George that just passed by Port Hedland. Hossen27 12:20, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Excellent - thanks for the response - as it is a major aspect of life for the people living along the pilbara coast - or above the tropic of capricorn I believe the WA project should take more effort in making sure stuff like this gets up to scratch - so thanks Hossen27 ! SatuSuro 12:23, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Something is evolving in my sandbox now. Hesperian 12:37, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

And it looks good - well done hesperian and moondyne - ! SatuSuro 04:47, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Now live at List of cyclones in Western Australia. Needs some help... and a new title. Hesperian 11:54, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Cyclone Vance is missing from this list, as is Cyclone Trixie. Presumably others. On the other hand, this list shows the existence of an article on Cyclone Ingrid, which we didn't know about. Hesperian 12:12, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Perth County 1886.jpg

What a groovy map! —Moondyne 15:35, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Indeed! :) There's some cool stuff on CD at SRO like that (pity much of it is protected by copyright :/ ) Orderinchaos78 16:33, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Thats a pretty good map. My father has a similar map (might actually be the same one) for the entire state and one for the nation, but they are framed. If they could be found they would be great additions to many articles. Hossen27 06:15, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Location bases

BTW anyone got any idea what the Swan Location K or Cockburn Sound Location 16 or Ninghan Location 23 would be called (as in the bit italicised), or where I would find out? It'd be a region of some sort but I think region has a different meaning (eg Gascoyne, Pilbara etc). They don't conform with the counties but they were used from the colony's earliest days and are still used today - recent council documents from any I can find use them consistently. I wouldn't mind doing an SVG map of them and then linking to a series of articles - it seems there's about 30 of them.

There's an interesting thing too where when they resume a lot from a big location as crown land, they create a new location number for it - so many of the higher-numbered locations are actually parks, drains, schools or buildings, and even "trig stations" whatever they are, while the lower ones are often huge tracts of land - eg Swan 1370 covers from around 1km north of Hepburn Avenue all the way out to Yanchep, with some bits cut out of it here and there (including almost the entire coastline past Burns, Quinns etc, which is Reserve 20561, first gazetted in 1930.) And now I really am rabbiting on. :P Orderinchaos78 16:33, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Never...(actually trig stations are vital reference points for surveyors/cartographers to identify set points within the landscape they are working in)SatuSuro 12:29, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Cameron's book on early Perth has a map with such strange parcels of land identified in the original locations allocated in the time of Stirling - most locations were the parcels allocated along straight lines with no interest in topography. SatuSuro 12:34, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Cadastral divisions of Australia states that "Most property titles in Australia are listed as being in the parish and county". On a hunch, I plugged "Cockburn Sound" into the Gazetteer, and not only is there are sound of that name, there is also an entity of type "DI (Administrative)",[3] which is defined as "Agricultural area, County, District, Local government area, Parish, Region"[4] (my emphasis). "Swan" comes up as a "DI" too, [5] (and the map suggests that this is not the LGA or federal division. Finally, "Ningham" comes up as an entity of type "PRSH" (i.e. parish), but in Queensland. Would this be right?

If you're happy with Ningham being in Queensland, then I suggest that these three names refer to parishes, in the land title sense.

Hesperian 12:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I think these are the divisions described at [6] "In 1880 the state was divided into sectional plans". See these maps: [7], [8] --Astrokey44 12:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peter Holland

crikey says he "... ran for Labor in the seat of Forrest during the 1984 state election". - ?? - Forrest is a Federal division - Division of Forrest. Any ideas? —Moondyne 13:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

It could be a namesake - one Peter Holland did indeed run in 1984 in Division of Forrest picking up 45.7% of the vote. It's not an uncommon name though. What may be worthwhile is checking Bunbury newspapers (South West Times etc) around Nov 84 for ads, see if they picture the candidate. (Another Peter Holland is a senior person in Geoscience Australia, while another is a Monash academic) Orderinchaos78 14:12, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

God you guys make feel old - if youd asked me - yes it was him SatuSuro 14:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I was looking for clarity over whether it was a state or federal seat he contested. I'm quite certain that it is the newsreader I'm taking about. —Moondyne 15:55, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah oops, sorry :) I thought it was a bit odd as it was a South West-based seat, I'd have expected him to try for Moore (which then included nearly all of modern-day Pearce) or Curtin (all other seats had sitting Labor MPs and he had direct ties to both seats). And of course there was no 1984 state election (1983 or 1986) and no state seat of Forrest at that time - although one historically existed. Orderinchaos78 18:00, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

My apologies - to clarify - yes it was the federal seat - i remember the issue well :) SatuSuro 21:46, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Need for work on Western Australian Aboriginal Groups

Whilst we have something on Noongar, there is nothing on Yamatji, Wangka, or other Aboriginal groups in Western Australia. There is also a huge gap in a number of local history articles about Abioriginal presence in locations, for example there was no mention of the Aboriginal occupation of Albany, and I suspect the same is true of most other country towns in the Western Australian section. John D. Croft 13:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

You are absolutely right John. The reality is people come here voluntarily and write on subjects that they are familiar with. There's just not that many people who can contribute to these subjects which is quite sad as its very worthwhile and encyclopaedic - far more than silly articles about schools. The answer is to encourage new editors into the project. —Moondyne 03:00, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I think the answer is for John to work on these articles. Hesperian 03:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WA article statistics

Since the trial with WP:ADEL articles worked, and seeing as though this project tends to be something of a beehive, I've introduced an assessment capability for WP:WA to {{WP Australia}}. Here's the intitial statistics: Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Western Australia articles by quality statistics. The only change to existing assessment practice is the introduction of a "WA-importance=" parameter (which functions in addition to the general "importance=" parameter) so that you can rank WA-related articles in the context of this project's scope. Have fun, --cj | talk 13:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Any reason why it wasn't mapped to the existing importance rating used in the WP Australia template? Most of the WA entries use that field already to rate the importance as there's no real difference in the mappings between the two projects (someone might want to confmirm this). thewinchester 21:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Theoretically, articles that may be highly important to WP:WA may not be so important in a national context. I'd offer an example, except I don't know Western Australian topics well enough. We're still in trial stage, and I'm certainly not attached to the parameter, so if in due course the general opinion is against it, it can be removed.--cj | talk 22:07, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

And the other way around too. Since cyclones are topical: a cyclone that smashes Queensland and the Northern Territory to smithereens, then causes minor damage in WA, would be higher for Australia as a whole than for WA; a cyclone that smashes WA to smithereens would be higher for WA than for Australia as a whole. Hesperian 11:00, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Should we have a discussion here on how we should rate WA articles differently to Australian ones, or shall we assume the same for now until a pressing need to do otherwise arises? Orderinchaos78 15:46, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, WP:WA should continue to use WP:AUS's assessment scales. However, WP:WA editors may wish to discuss how the importance scale applies with regards to your scope.--cj | talk 02:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

That's what I was meaning. Remind me not to indulge in structural theory at quarter to one in the morning after a full day at uni :) Orderinchaos78 06:29, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

OIC, Don't forget not to indulge in structural theory at quarter to one in the morning after a full day at uni :) Hesperian 12:19, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Grrr, I should not indulge in rhetoric upon recognising my errors of wording the day after being up until after a quarter to one in the morning after a full day at uni :) Orderinchaos78 12:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TC George

Currently it's a coupl eof paragraphs in 2006-07 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season. Since 4 deaths have now been attributed directly to George, and there building storm over mining conditions I think this may be an article in the building Gnangarra 07:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Cyclone George has been created by the Hurricane Project, it covers the storm itself but will need to updated with results of various investigations into the deaths etc. Gnangarra 03:05, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ghost towns

Wikipedia:WikiProject Ghost towns was previously scoped as US only, but has rescoped to world-wide. We have lots of ghost towns, mostly gold rush towns that were abandoned after the gold played out. So I thought some of you might find this interesting or relevant. Now I'm going to go do my bit by putting {{WikiProject Ghost towns}} on Talk:Wittenoom, Western Australia. Hesperian 12:15, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

There are heaps that have not yet had articles yet as well - or identified as such. Gold rush towns with in some cases lifespans of 10 or 20 years were surveyed and vested/declared lived in and abandoned - and are still on 'the books' so to speak - so those that hesperian and orderinchaos have tagged are a tip on the iceberg.SatuSuro 14:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

What about the timber towns of the south west, or places like Dale, Western Australia that grew at cross roads then vanished when the horseless carriage achieved greater range out of a tank of juice. And other that grew as rail grain sidings then vanished in the blink of a road train, or loss of a narrow gauge line. Gnangarra 14:49, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Thats what Geoff Highams book is good - he lists and ids the most obscure ones you could imagine!SatuSuro 12:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Added Goldsworthy, Kookynie, Cossack (Hesp beat me to it :), Nanga Brook and Banksiadale. Orderinchaos78 15:19, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TFD

Just to advise I sent Template:Local Government Areas of Western Australia to TFD - reason being that we have been using the region ones (Gascoyne, South West etc) since before when I can remember. Orderinchaos78 15:36, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Meetup

The venue has been booked for Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/2 Jimbo will be there so it'll be a fantastic opportunity. Gnangarra 10:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)