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Well, I was bored, and wrote another article. Please don't move it to Shihōin Yoruichi because I'm pretty sure the U in the name is pronounced clearly. Although maybe a redirect would do. Also, if anyone can verify all the data on this page and re-word some of the sentences that sound unprofessional, it would be greatly appreciated (although I'm pretty sure all the data is correct). -- Ynhockey 09:14, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Bleh, since when was this page moved to Shihōin... gotta hate ppl ignoring the discussion. Listen to the name :P it's shi-ho-u-in, clearly said. Like in tou (to ask). Unfortunately I didn't notice when it was moved :( might've been weeks ago. -- Ynhockey 09:07, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Yoruichi Captain Status
I just want to be VERY CLEAR, because there are some people that are VERY STUBBORN about this. There are THREE DIVISIONS in Soul Society - Gotei 13, Covert Ops Brigade, and Demon Arts Brigade. Yoruichi was NEVER IN THE GOTEI 13. She was the leader of the COVERT OPS BRIGADE which is NOT IN THE GOTEI 13, meaning that Yoruichi was NEVER A CAPTAIN. I'm using lots of caps here because some people just don't understand. - Hobbeslover 18:23, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
- Hobbes,
- To quote you: She was the leader of the COVERT OPS BRIGADE. That DOES mean she was a Captain (at least), just not one of the captains of the court squadrons. In fact, if (and I don't know this), if rank is commensurate to that of the captain/commander in charge of all of the Gotei 13, she's like a colonel (to use modern ranks).--Mitsukai 19:07, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
I think it says somewhere that she was the general (shougun) of the covert ops. That would mean she was captain of the 2nd division, which is, from what we know, the covert ops division. Also, the word taicho means 'commander' (sort of), not necessarily captain. So presumably it could also mean general. -- Ynhockey 20:46, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Quote for me EXACTLY in the manga where it says that the leader of the other two divisions are called "captain". Also, the 2nd division is not synonymous to the covert ops division. Please provide proof with exact quotes, chapters, and page numbers. -- Hobbeslover 02:28, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
Both ch. 157 p.7 and ch. 159 p.15 clearly state that Yoruichi was general of the covert ops, which as you yourself said is also an army on its own and therefore has its own divisions, which means they each have leaders ranked the same as the ones in Gotei 13. No, it's not the same as the 2nd division of Gotei 13, that was my mistake. However, nobody is ranked/called captain anywhere. Captain is just a translation that VIZ (I think) came up with (and it's in fact wrong, since 'captains' in Gotei 13 are at least senior officers). The Japanese version says simply 'taicho' (meaning commander), which is synonimous to the word 'osa', which is one of Yoruichi's titles (ch. 159 p. 7). If we were to compare to real ranks (and yes it's comparable, Mitsukai was quite correct to compare in the Rukia discussion page), then Yoruichi would be lieut.gen. and a regular 'captain' would actually be a brig.gen. Simiraly, I guess the fuku-taichos would be colonels or lieut.cols. -- Ynhockey 18:25, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
Didnt simply soifon get joruichi's place as commander and captain when joruichi left soul society? I believe thats the case. They talk alot about it in the soul society arch? and even soifon draws ut special forces when they fight. someone could check the anime and read the manga for more correct info. But if thats the case its most likely that joruichi would have been a captain of gotei 13 since soifon is the current captain. look at the page below, it talks about the three divisions the demon arts corps, the special forces and gotei 13. But look at the pictures its the same person soi fon commands as noted before. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotei_13#Special_forces
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- What? Jirachi? Who are you even talking about? As best we can conclusively tell, Soifon not only replaced Yoruichi's role, but also took on a Gotei 13 rank. --tjstrf talk 01:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah thats what im trying to conclude, that soifon did take joruichis place as she left society. It was the talk about joruichi ever being a captain of gotei 13. Wich i think is the case because Soifon is captain and leader of special forces.
- I think Soifon "dual-trained" as a shinigami and a special force ninja(?) or it was later decided to merge the Second Division with the Special Forces. Either way, we won't know definitely until it is explicitly said in the manga. Gdo01 02:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- I Of episode 56 soifon says "the special forces and the police are under my command now...you had your era (talking to joruichi) soinfon is both commander of the special forces and police and a gotei 13 captain. As someone said earlier that Soifon did simply take over the rank of joruichi as she left. Its pretty good evidence that Joruichi was a former captain
I really don't think this can be settled unless you just ask Tite Kubo himself. No one knows for certain who the captain of the 2nd division was before Soifon, so, since Soifon appears to have taken over for Yoruichi, there is a possibility that Yoruichi was the 2nd division captain before Soifon. Temari of Suna 19:48, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
I think we should have it mentioned under something like "..and possible former captain of the 2nd division". It really isnt out of nowhere, Soifon took her position after she left, right? 2nd division captain and leader of the special forces could go hand-in-hand, like the 1st division and leader of the gotei 13.--24.56.197.128 20:21, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Yoruichi's speach patterns
Should it be mentioned in the article that Yoruichi tends to speak in a very unusual manner for a female character? Specifically, the way she talks in the Japanese version makes her sound like an old man, and in fact she teases Ichigo about this when she first reveals her human form to him, asking if he thought she was a man from the way she talks. As far as I've seen, female characters using that sort of speach is extremely unusual in manga/anime, so it might be worth noting as one of her character traits... --ACDragonMaster 08:23, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Notable Battles
I don't want to be the obnoxious wikipedian who self righteously deletes other peoples contributions. But I feel this section is useless and whatever in it should be in the synopsis. because there should be some symmetry between articles. Either all characters should have notable battles section or none should have it at all. Noman953
[edit] Zanpakuto name??
During the last episode of the filler arc, Yoruichi stopped Byakuya from interfering in Kariya and Ichigo's fight, saying(quoted from DB subbers) "Should he release Joukaishou, you and I will need to conaitn it using Shunkou and Senbonsakura."
Is that name of some kind of shinigami/supernatural power/item/whathaveyou or is that the name of her Zanpakuto?--Chicbicyclist 12:50, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Nevermind, found it. It's one of her techniques after all.--Chicbicyclist 12:58, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Arrancar arc?
Even if there's not much to say, maybe her appearence to save Ichigo, her "battle" with Yammy and her broken arm are worth mentioning. Lord Air 04:17, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Is there a weird post on Yoruichi's page?
Is it me or does actually say, "Yoruichi is a lesbian and love to make out with Rukia..."
Was that intentional?
71.80.183.74 06:26, 23 February 2007 (UTC)Geritol Man71.80.183.74 06:26, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image
I have restored the old image of Yoruichi for the top of the page, on the base of higher quality and lighting. Please raise any objections here. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 11:43, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ah. Thank goodness. Cheers for clarity. =] Sephiroth BCR 01:15, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
