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Contents 1 How to ask a question 2 Image:100 1147.jpg 3 Source of claim in Template:Military-Insignia 4 Again 5 Headline text 6 free copyright 7 Image:Vinyl Art by kingofthefield.jpg 8 Parliamentary Brief - cover image 9 Copying an entire Wikipediatext 10 Jean Baudin - Copyright's problem 11 ??? 12 Problem with adding copyright info 13 Question 14 Copyright tags? 15 Signatures 16 City Goverment Copyright? 17 Copyright of own photos 18 Deleting Orphaned/Unlinked images 19 Deleting image that was uploaded by mistake 20 Image Uploading 21 Changing the size of a picture 22 Fan Art 23 gh 24 question 25 Process & Procedure Definitions 26 no copyright? 27 Quotation 28 how do I tag a photo I just uploaded 29 Says my image doesn't have tag, but it does. help 30 Nofish.PNG 31 Copyright 32 Problem with (C) tag on Xpress_cover.jpg 33 Image:Neelie Kroes.jpg 34 clear as mud... 35 copyright imaging for a music video screenshot 36 Old Photos 37 avatar episodes 38 Images originating from Florida public service agencies 39 Image:Dr. S Z Hasan -- Col-jpg.jpg 40 Tagging an image. 41 What is the appropriate copyright tag for an image of an album cover scanned by the owner of the album. 42 Picture Copyright 43 Saint 44 I forgot something 45 Image copyright problem with Image:Scheda.jpg 46 How to tag an Image? 47 Darby Crash Rides Again cover art 48 Copyright issue with image 49 Contradiction on Image:Middle-earth.jpg 50 About.com material 51 project charter 52 Publicity shot of TV character 53 non-profit/educational use only 54 Image:Chewie.jpg 55 How To get an image on the page? 56 use of photo 57 How to add a tag? 58 Public Domain 59 Deletion of image Image:Kate Ceberano.jpg 60 Photo 61 Fair Use & Replaceability wrt Publicity Photos of Living People 62 expiry of copyright 63 About Image:SaddamGrave.jpg 64 Tagging my image 65 Horwich in Greater Manchester 66 Sports logos of amateur teams 67 User:The Big PowerMacBoy 68 Screens at live performances 69 Where is the copyright tag edit option? 70 How do I make a tag for my image? 71 Image:Wilkinsonandkitzinger.jpg 72 Please could you determine the copyright of this pic? (2) 73 Air Force Roundel copyright question 74 About SIM 75 Image:Byfordbulls.jpg 76 Old Bughouse Square image 77 I'm not sure what I'm missing here 78 UNEP 79 Legal action 80 Yumi Kakazu image 81 Copyrighted artwork? 82 Help 83 System Analysis and Design

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[edit] Image:100 1147.jpg

Copyright tag has been added to the above image previous comments by Trueblood786 on 18:17, January 7, 2007

21:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Source of claim in Template:Military-Insignia

The template claims that:

"Copyrighting combatant identification and/or rank insignia violates international law; hence this image cannot be copyrighted and belongs to the public domain. This applies worldwide"

Has anyone heard of such a law?DGtal 10:08, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I thought it was part of the Geneva convention - but upon researching it - I can't find it referenced. It should really be documented on the template in some way. I'll try chasing the templates creator. Megapixie 00:55, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

The insignia are licence free (ask in the next military shop around the corner). Wandalstouring 01:21, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

In the US that would be true of US insignia regardless of international law, as a matter of Federal law. But is the same true for, say, France? If so, what law makes it so? If the guy in the military shop around the corner knows the answer to that one, come tell us. TCC (talk) (contribs) 02:23, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I suspect that the reasoning here is as follows: the Hague Convention requires that combatants be identified by fixed, recognizable insignia. For this to be practical, it would obviously be necessary that these insignia be documentable by other parties; hence, copying them cannot be prohibited.

(But obviously I'm neither an attorney nor someone with any real expertise in international law; so take that with a large grain of salt.) Kirill Lokshin 05:46, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I see the logic, but that can only justify registering ranks in military and intelligence manuals etc. Geneva convention doesn't say one relinquishes the legal rights to his insignia (i think).

If I would commercially mass produce ranks and insignia of any country, even abroad, I would expect them to sue me (unless local law is different) or otherwise try to stop me (which might be dangerous...). DGtal 09:02, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I can't see why. Military personnel all over the world hire independent creators to manufacture insignia for themselves and their units. If it looks like the military-approved insignia, they're usually allowed to wear it, which I would think says something about the government's attitude towards outsiders using their creations. --ScreaminEagle 21:26, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Regardless of whether any government would seriously act to protect its copyright to military insignia, if governments do hold such copyrights, the claim in {{Military-Insignia}} and {{Military Insignia}} really merits substantiation. (By the way, shouldn’t one of those templates be enough?) We provide a minimal rationale for the copyright status of other images (more than minimal in the case of {{PD-Russia}}) and this should be no exception, especially considering questions like [1] and [2]. Regarding requirements under the laws of warfare to identify combatants, my impression from reading the Hague and Geneva documents is that each side should provide the documentation on its forces to the other side, anyway, eliminating our problem for them. Unfortunately we can’t quite yet declare war on the rest of the world for the purpose of resolving the problem here. —xyzzy_n 14:33, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Since there doesn't seem yet to be a rational, is the next step deletion of the template? If so, what is to be done with the images already using it? DGtal 22:44, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Some could remain as fair use, but it would be a lot of work. I’ve noted this discussion on WP:RFC/POLICY in the hope that somebody there knows more than we do, but if there is no definitive answer, WP:TFD is probably the way to go. —xyzzy_n 01:03, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I have put the "unit insignia copyright question" to the administrator of the army.ca wiki. Hopefully a speedy answer will point us in a useful direction. Although, if I'll I read [Crown_Copyright] correctly, its in serious doubt. I read it (IANAL) to mean that only the Crown has the right to (re)produce it, where ever it wants... either in print or on a uniform. And that is NOT what I was hoping to read from it.
I'll keep you updated on the reply. exit2dos2000 08:01, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I did get a reply back; but not the one I had hoped for. The Dept. Of National Defence (DND) holds the copyright to unit Emblems & Insignia. Although nobody has ever heard of anyone recieving a phone call from Military Lawyers, I wouldnt want to be the one to push the envelope and be the first. Whom would we have to ask permission from ? Anyone have any leads ? exit2dos2000 03:48, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Since every army is (hopefully) controlled by the local government, one needs to ask permission from the Ministry of Defence/War/Army etc. One can probably assume "fair use" permission by the various armies, but I still seriously doubt the "no copyright" assumption of the template. It may be true in the US and a few other countries, but I doubt it to be a general rule. DGtal 19:15, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

There is no such thing as a ‘"fair use" permission’. If there is no legal basis for the public domain claim, the two choices are to make fair use claims wherever appropriate and to remove all other uses or to ask the copyright holders to release the works under the GFDL or CC–BY(–SA), as permission to use on Wikipedia is insufficient under our policy. I find it unlikely that governments are going to consider such requests in sufficient detail to agree; unless somebody wants to spam^Wcontact lots of them and ask anyway, we should concentrate on figuring out which material is in the public domain. The best criterion is the date of publication—we should be able to use all insignia from World War I and earlier. Figuring out public domain by government is trickier; for example, while works of the US government are in the public domain, this needs not be true for works created by contractors of the same government—we would need to know by whom exactly the US armed forces insignia we use as public domain have been created. I suspect the criteria in other countries where there is a chance of public domain status are equally tricky or worse (not to mention that we then need to establish whether those works are also public domain in the US…).

To reiterate, unless we’re missing something obvious, any attempt to be thorough in this issue will be arduous. —xyzzy_n 20:27, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Exactly - official badges of rank and unit insignia in Canada are "Copyright by Her Majesty the Queen in right of Canada"; this I got from my local base imaging services office. Non-official insigia, such as say, a deployment t-shirt, would presumably be the copyrighted property of the creator. Not sure what the status of unofficial designs incorporating official elements such as a royal or naval crown, etc. As far as permission goes, I believe DND's Directorate of History and Heritage are the ones who actually regulate the use and display of Canadian military insignia; I'd start with them. However, given Wikipedia's policy of prefering no reproduction restrictions on graphic material, I doubt very much any sort of usable permission will be forthcoming. Jackytar 08:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Further reflection - I don't know for sure, but strongly suspect that most governments will actively protect their nation's military insigna and badges. However, the nature and extent of that protection will vary. I do not know if there is any international law on the subject, but I would suspect the Geneva Conventions on Prisoners of War would be one possibility. Jackytar 19:27, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Follow-up - here's the Government of Canada website dealing with Crown Copyright - what is covered under it, penalties, etc. Government of Canada - Crown Copyright. FYI. Jackytar 22:48, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

If I understand the disscussion up to this point, the conclusion is that the Template is indeed incorrect and should be deleted. It is also apparent that each country has it's own copyright policy (most retain their rights). DGtal 10:05, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

It might be an idea move this discussion to Template_talk:Military-Insignia. In the mean time, I think it would be preferable to make this template a fair-use template like logo. CS Miller 15:59, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Again

I would like to send a pix of Peter created by Peter or taken by me in his studio. There are hundreds to choose from. Grudz was appalled by the artwork Parallel Worlds did (the jpeg that accompanies original aticle. Again I have offered to send copies of my mastercds; copies of early Peter G. tapes and copies of post Parallrl World Cds that were produced and personally signed and numbered by Peter. I have offered to send my coy of Peter Grudzien and Barbara Zigman "Outsider Music". (Beadie Finzi channel 4 England)

Again I have referred the original author our website;also included in Gay Americana Music.I have givem the tyahoo address of PeterGrudzien@yahoogroups.com which contains audio material not available here. Frankly-I have a grinding abscessed tooth-would rather go to bed and forget the whole thing. Follow the example of Townes Van Zandt's ex wife- sell the masters-flood the market with the tapes given to me by Peter and the world be darned. Somehow-I can't sink that low yet.

Think on tis Peter. Twill improve your disposition to the tune of the Old Man from the Mountain by M Haggard The old Queen from the mountain's coming home, home, home I thought I better warn you so I called you on the phone Watch out-joe the Rounder-cause you better be there alone The old queen from the mountain's homing home

Npw I've been workin' my ass off all forma dollar bill I need some kinda lovin so I'm a coming down the hill

Well it gets progressively more scatalogicaland suggestive. If you read the brilliant Nick Tosches"Country:The Twisted Roots of rock and Roll?" you'll see that early country was down and dirty-not the pablum coming out of Nashville these days.So Peter was frankly very true to his roots and to authentic country. Barbara Jane Barbara Jane Grew up pretty but she went insane Thanks loads grudz. laughing. What a mess you left me to clean up. Sides I'm odd-not insane

"I gotta job sittin on the fence And I haven't done a damned thing since Work all day with the bottle in my hand Come on and give the fiddler a gram. Actualy HMR used the line and some of the melody for the Barbara Jane song originally.I believe Pete Stampfel of HMR is very nuch alive and has been in touch with the Grudz since they were kids. You might also try Don Perliss chum from art college he is still in touch with frequently.(Art and Design) I also sent some pix of Peter taking pix of Dons last show but I guess they were deleted.

Barbara Jane

21:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Headline text

P.S I also want to something about wikimedia dot org.

21:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] free copyright

  sir 
    I would like to get certain exart from your webpage about social movement .Shall i get it through my email id –rajava21@yahoo.co.in

21:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Vinyl Art by kingofthefield.jpg

This image seems to have been released into the PD, but denotes that it is by "kingofthefield". I have no idea if "kingofthefield" asked permission for such an image to be posted. Besides, there's no real source data. TheLH 12:57, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Kingofthefield is a photographer who posts his work under that name on DeviantArt, which appears to have been the source for these images. I have contacted the photographer there about this, and will take care of it if he says this was done without his permission. TCC (talk) (contribs) 20:04, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

For the record, Kingofthefield replied to me on DA and confirmed that he was indeed the uploader of these images. TCC (talk) (contribs) 03:00, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Can these things even be released into the public domain? The album covers don't seem to be non-trivial parts of the work, so doesn't much of the copyright belong to the record label? ShadowHalo 03:31, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Parliamentary Brief - cover image

Could you please check that I have added the fair use ratioanle correctly for the cover image of Parliamentary Brief. Thank you in anticipation.

Tony

this is a personal image taken by a friend. i added the copyright tag, but am finding it difficult for the page to come up like i wished. help!

21:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copying an entire Wikipediatext

Is it ok for another encyklopedia to copy the text here on Wikipedia about Janne Corax, word by word, without altering anything? They claim copyright too, they have a form, which people are supposed to fill in, before using anything from their site, even though they stole the text in the first place.

http://en.allexperts.com/e/j/ja/janne_corax.htm

LolliLolli 19:54, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, they can copy it word for word, as long as they follow the GFDL license terms (see the bottom of every Wikipedia page), for which this site does. At the bottom of that page, they state the text is from Wikipedia and that site is available under the GNU license. They don't claim copyright (at least, not on that page). This is the awesomeness of Wikipedia: Free information for everyone! --MECU≈talk 20:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, ok, then they must have added that statement, it wasn't there when I complained about it. Then it's ok. Lolli 12:53, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Is it O.K. to copy user page source code? Can I copy the source code from a Wikipedian's user page and add it to my user page? I want to add content and wizzies to my new user page, but I feel like I don't have the skills, time, or talent to do it by myself. Are there any short cuts like that which are O.K.? Bearian 01:33, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

No matter what page you edit on Wikipedia, you'll see a notice at the bottom stating, "You agree to license your contributions under the GFDL," which is footnoted, "GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, with no Front-Cover Texts, and with no Back-Cover Texts." That goes for user pages as well. So as long as you abide by the terms of the license, anything you find on any Wikipedia page can be used freely. TCC (talk) (contribs) 02:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jean Baudin - Copyright's problem

Same text in this article (under GFDL) & in the artist's MySpace (under copyright) [3]. I guess there is something wrong.

(Same problem on Wp in french, whose text translates one of above's.)

Hope you can solve this. Chaoborus 12:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

For instructions on how to report a suspected copyright infringement, please see WP:CP. —RP88 17:37, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

The fact is... I look at WP:CP and I don't understand what I should do. List the problem there ? Chaoborus 00:58, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ???

How do I prove that my image is not replaceable (039.jpg) and how do I attach my reason to the picture? Please help!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Reggie27 (talk • contribs).

Read Fair use. Then read Wikipedia:Fair use. Then, if you are still convinced the image is replaceable, follow the instructions in the tag currently on the image description page to explain what the image shows and why what it shows cannot be conveyed by a free image or by text. —xyzzy_n 00:29, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Problem with adding copyright info

I have created an image myself and are happy to put it into the public domain. I thought I'd put the correct tags and have added licence info, but there are still warnings about it not be correct. Can anyone add a suitable tag for me: Image:ChessDB-on-Solaris.png —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Drkirkby (talk • contribs) 01:25, 18 March 2007.

Dr. Kirkby, since you're online right now, I'll answer your question on your talk page. —RP88 01:34, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Image talk:Samus's cameo in Galactic Pinball screenshot.png - There is a disagreement over whether stating what video game this is from constitutes adequate source information, or whether the name of the person that took the screenshot is also needed. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 02:17, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Copyright to game screenshots belong to the people who developed the game. If it has been modified into a new creative work the author of this may be entitled to copyright to his changes, but this will not overrule the original copyright to the visuals used (and I believe there are court cases where the copyright to unauthorosed derivative works have been awarded to the owner of the source material anyway). In this case it seems like a straight gameplay screenshot of a unmodded game so while IANAL I'd say whoever took the screenshot is completely irrelevant. --Sherool (talk) 15:56, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright tags?

How do I use a copyright tag to indicate that an image is public domain? I received two messages about images I've uploaded Image:Fashionclass3.jpg and Image:Fashionclass3.jpg on my talk page from OrphanBot. I included the disclaimer on the website where I found them which reads:

"Copyright Notice

Unless specifically stated otherwise, all information on the High School of Fashion Industries website at www.nycenet.edu/schools/manhattanhs/fashindhs and www.fashionhighschool.net is in the public domain, and may be reproduced, published or otherwise used without HSFI's permission. This statement does not pertain to information at web sites other than www.nycenet.edu/schools/manhattanhs/fashindhs and www.fashionhighschool.net, whether funded by HSFI or not."

However, I haven't been able to figure out what I need to do. The various help articles must be to advanced for my simple mind. I would appreciate if someone responded to my question on my talk page. Thanks!

--ArtsyNani 16:38, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

You can use the {{PD-because}} template to tag images from the site (I've gone ahead and added it to the two images). ShadowHalo 16:48, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much!

--ArtsyNani 17:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

How do I tag my image that I placed?

Please get back to me, Robrodo

how do I tag my picture? Robrodo 21:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Signatures

Image:Joe Hill signature.JPG - copyright status? Is it creative enough to have some kind of copyright on it? if not, shouldn't it be tagged {{PD-ineligible}}? Hbdragon88 22:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] City Goverment Copyright?

I was under the assumption that all Government, weather it be city, state, or federal was exempt from copyright.

The reason I ask is I was trying to create the current Mayors page for my city. I did some Google searching and found that there was a prior attempt but the page info was copied directly from the bio from the city's home page as was the image of the mayor.

Anyone?

---Andrew 00:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

You were under a mistaken impression. It's only works of the Federal government that are automatically public domain. Works of state and local governments are in general protected by copyright. So any article you write here, images included, must be your own work. TCC (talk) (contribs) 00:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright of own photos

Okay, so what did I do wrong? I put some pictures onine that I took myself and added the {pd_self} tag just like Wikipedia told me to do. And now Orphanbot is telling me I don't have the copyright information added. What am I missing? The photos are:

image:Arapahoe TownHall.JPG and Image:Neuse River Arapahoe.JPG

Can someone explain to me what I am missing? Kacey 00:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I got it. orphanBot wasn't recognizing the template. You need to put the template within two curly brackets - {{pd-self}} for it to show up. I just did it for you. You're good. Hbdragon88 01:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting Orphaned/Unlinked images

I'd like to delete some images that I didn't link to pages. One is this: "License tagging for Image:Sacred Light.jpg" They are public domain/free images that I took myself. --Yahuzs 03:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

If you really want to delete them, edit the image description pages and add {{db-author}}. But if you've released them to PD, please do consider uploading them to the Commons. They may well be useful to someone, and that's the place to deposit free media. TCC (talk) (contribs) 10:02, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting image that was uploaded by mistake

By accident, I selected the wrong image (one that I didn't have copyright to) to upload. When I realized my mistake I replaced it with the correct image, one I created. I tried to delete the old image but it said I didn't have permission to remove it. " The action you have requested is limited to users in the group Administrators."

"# (del) (rev) 04:27, 19 March 2007 . . Yahuzs (Talk | contribs) . . 250×254 (29,764 bytes) (I took this picture at the Breeders' Cup at Churchill Downs. The sign is above the paddock. ) "

This is wrong, I didn't create this & want to remove it so I don't get removed.

To have an image that you mistakenly uploaded speedy deleted, add the code {{db-author}} to the page. ShadowHalo 05:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image Uploading

How do you upload an image? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Takaja (talk • contribs).

This page is not for technical questions like this. See WP:UPIMAGE for instructions. Be sure to familiarize yourself with policy, particularly on the subject of licenses and copyrights. TCC (talk) (contribs) 09:58, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changing the size of a picture

Hi, can anynone help me about changing the size of one of my uploaded picture? I mean, I want to reduce the size because it takes lot of space of the article. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Curunvir (talk • contribs).

Done. Tyrenius 11:34, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fan Art

I recently noticed the Fan art article, which was not supported by an image. As I had found a -typical- example of fan art depicting the Simpsons from deviantART, I uploaded it. However, I did not know which copyright tag would be appropriate, as I had not contacted the author, but he/she stated explicitly on her user page that he/she allowed his/her work to be used on condition that he/she was mentioned as the original creator. Afterwards, I chose the non-commercial use tag, and I found that the file had been listed for speedy deletion. Should I have placed the tag which indicates that I contacted the author and place links to the pages where he states that he waives all copyrights? If so, can I replace the tag on the image now, or do I have to wait for it to be deleted and upload it again?--Orthologist 15:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not so sure that the author is able to freely release it. The characters of The Simpsons are copyrighted by Fox, so I'm pretty sure that Fox owns part of the copyright to fan art of the show. ShadowHalo 19:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

It seems that fanart is a gray area, as someone replaced the tag on the image, so it is acceptable. Moreover, the author was offered a job position by the Simpsons due to the quality of his work [4], so I think the creators approve of it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Orthologist (talk • contribs) 19:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] gh

how i put my picture in other page

is there a section on a manga series called Chaosic Rune

See WP:EIS.

And apparently not. TCC (talk) (contribs) 06:39, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] question

is there a section on a manga series called Chaosic Rune?--72.71.252.30 20:02, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

What is the diffences between A moral and B moral ?

[edit] Process & Procedure Definitions

Business Process is defined as:A set of linked activities that create value by transforming an input into a more valuable output. Both input and output can be artifacts and/or information and the transformation can be performed by human actors, machines, or both.

Procedure is defined as A specification of the series of actions, acts or operations which have to be executed in the same manner in order to obtain always the same result in the same circumstances (for example, emergency procedures). Less precisely speaking, this word can indicate a sequence of activities, tasks, steps, decisions, calculations and processes, that when undertaken in the sequence laid down produces the described result, product or outcome. A procedure usually induces a change.

Unfortunatelly, I cannot undertand the difference between the process and the procedure (or even better the relationship between them).

As far as BPM (Business Process Management) is concerned, I knew that Process as a definition refers to an overall view (high level) and Procedure is a part of a process, which is more detailed.

For example: Process: Sell X Product

            Procedure: Find target group, Contact to this group the product, Advertise the product..... etc.

That's what I knew, but now I am quite confused.... Please help me (and forgive my English, because I am not a native speaker)!

This page is for questions about copyright issues relating to media hosted on Wikipedia's servers. Please direct your question to the appropriate category of the Reference Desk. TCC (talk) (contribs) 06:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] no copyright?

So what do you pick if an image just doesn't have a copyright? If there's copyright info, then that's available, but if there's no copyright info, there's no info STATING that it's not copyrighted, correct? So what type of tag would you apply to an image like that? --SSMatt 16:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

If you're referring to a picture, every photograph taken since 1978 is automatically copyrighted. Unless there is an explicit statement that allows free use of the picture, the image is copyrighted. ShadowHalo 16:53, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

What if the image is that of something that is in the public domain? In particular, a US Gov't tax stamp from 1945. In which case, there should not even be a category for "public domain because it is a US stamp from before year XXXX" since we can never have the actual stamps but only the images. Image:Producer_of_marihuana.jpg --drauh 21:10, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

{{PD-USGov-Treasury}}? —xyzzy_n 21:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quotation

How do I obey the copyright law?

I want to include a paragraph from a reference book on a Home Page.

One paragraph quoted from a much larger work for the purpose of criticism or commentary is fair use. However, if by "home page" you meant a Wikipedia user page, it's contrary to Wikipedia policy to place fair use material there even if it's otherwise legal. TCC (talk) (contribs) 23:40, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] how do I tag a photo I just uploaded

The photo I uploaded has a comment that says I need to add a copyright tag. How do I do this? It's a photo I shot myself, and I'm happy to let others use it.

-DHS —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Doontass (talk • contribs) 04:53, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

You have to decide what free license you want to make it available under, or perhaps to release it to the public domain. Once you do that, find the appropriate tag here Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Free licenses, or use {{PD-self}} for public domain. Then go to the image page and click the "edit" link. Add the tag -- which is the bits with the curly braces -- to the text there, removing the template for the warning message (another thing with curly braces) and save it. You might also want to add {{ImageSummary}} or {{CommonsImageSummary}} so that an automated bot won't mistakenly re-tag it as lacking source information. Be sure to fill in the summary with all the applicable parameters. TCC (talk) (contribs) 05:41, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Says my image doesn't have tag, but it does. help

Image:Escudo1Ira.jpg I used a template I found on wikipedia for government seals. I added a description and source of where the image was obtained as well as date. What's missing? Davelapo555 06:18, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

You had substed the template. Copyright templates shouldn't be substed; they often end up improperly categorized that way, and the bots don't recognize it. ShadowHalo 07:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! much appreciated. Davelapo555 07:41, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nofish.PNG

since the copyright thing on herring2.jpg says permission is given to modify it and stuff, does that mean i should use {{GDFL}}? --Piemanmoo 08:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, assuming that you made the modification, it should be tagged with {{GFDL}}. ShadowHalo 08:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

thanks a bunch! --Piemanmoo 11:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright

Hi;

Can you please get copyright from Google earth and upload the same file for me as I am not able to understand. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mshafqat (talk • contribs) 10:12, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

Images from Google Earth are copyrighted and should generally not be used here. ShadowHalo 10:23, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Problem with (C) tag on Xpress_cover.jpg

Please advise what I have done wrong with Image:Xpress_cover.jpg - I have written as much as I can, followed as many guidelines as I could find and still I get a warning saying I have not given enough info! Many thanks, S —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lockes (talk • contribs) 13:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC).Please notify me of any replies on my talk page --Lockes 13:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Neelie Kroes.jpg

I recently uploaded Image:Neelie Kroes.jpg, the source states: "Reproduction is authorised, provided the source is acknowledged, save where otherwise stated.". So can I use cc-by-sa-2.5 for this image? - Ilse@ 15:00, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I would say probably not. They don't say anything about allowing people to use it for commercial purposes or allowing derivative works. ShadowHalo 15:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. I decided to mark the image as fair use, and included the statement above in the fair use rationale. - Ilse@ 13:52, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] clear as mud...

re. Image:jon-donaldson-color.jpg There does not seem to be any copyright category that fits the simple, surely very common form: 'this is a family photograph, whose owner has given permission for its use in any context'

How am I supposed to categorise this without threats of its imminent destruction? Sorry to get overheated about it, but it is frustrating...--Ndaisley 16:09, 21 March 2007 (UTC)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ndaisley (talk • contribs) 16:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

Since you know the owner of the image, it is up to them how to release it. If she releases it into the public domain, you could use {{PD-because}} and state that the owner of the image released it into PD.↔NMajdan•talk 16:12, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Right, thank you very much! --Ndaisley 16:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] copyright imaging for a music video screenshot

i've edited my file >>> Image:Ayumi1&4.jpg <<<four times now and i HAVE put this up...

{{Musicpromo-screenshot}}

BUT, it still says i havent put up my copyright and will be deleted.. but i have put copyright up!

Help?

I checked and you forgot to provide either the license or the detailed fair-use rationale. I also can't find the critical commentary on Step you/is this Love? that you would be using to justify using this screenshot so as it stands, the image violates that license. --Yamla 17:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

You have to click "edit this page" while looking at the image description page. You can't re-uploading an image to replace/modify the text for the original image. --MECU≈talk 18:32, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, both of you! [o: (do I delete this section now?) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Auzzzzz (talk • contribs) 18:53, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Old Photos

I am would like to use some old photos in an article that appear in a book published in 1972. One is of a minister who lived in the 19th Century. I don't know the precise date of his death, but it is unlikely he lived until 1910, and the photo would have been taken circa 1889. It has been published in at least two other documents since then. The other is a painting in the same book dating from 1891. Am I at liberty to make a copy of them and post them to Commons on the grounds that the original works of art are well past their copyright date? Ben MacDui (Talk) 21:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

If you're in the US, then yes. The appropriate tag is {{PD-US}}. The issue isn't the subject of the photos, but the photographer. You therefore cannot use {{PD-old}} since its perfectly possible he died less than 100 years ago. TCC (talk) (contribs) 22:02, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Sadly I am not in the US, which I should have mentioned. Ben MacDui (Talk) 22:45, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh crap. UK copyright law. What a mess. Sorry, but I'm not going to even try to work this out. It depends on the publication history of the photo and whether the photo was commissioned or taken by the photographer on his own. (Back in those days, in the former case the commissioner owned the copyright and in the latter the photographer.) So I think that if you can work out for a fact that the photo was first published before 1957, you're safe in assuming its PD. Otherwise it might be, but not necessarily. TCC (talk) (contribs) 23:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for your help. Ben MacDui (Talk) 18:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] avatar episodes

Why don't you ever save my Avatar: The Last Airbender episode changes to wikipedia? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jimblack (talk • contribs) 21:53, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

This is the wrong place for this question. Please direct it to Talk:List of Avatar: The Last Airbender episodes. It's evident from the page history that other editors reverted your changes. You'll have to ask them why there. TCC (talk) (contribs) 21:58, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images originating from Florida public service agencies

Just want to be sure I am following the rules for images obtained from Florida state and local government Web sites. I have emailed the Webmasters for several of the aforementioned sites and received virtually identical replies: "Since we are a public agency supported by your tax dollars, everything we publish on our public website is in the public domain. Therefore you are free to use anything you wish." Given that blanket release the only related template I could find that seemed to fit was PD-Because|Reason. An example of my resulting interpretation can be found here: [5]. Please educate me further if needed! Thank you!!

Jasap 00:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

So far as I know, only the works by the federal government are automatically public domain. Individual states may choose to make their works public domain or maintain copyright. I would recommend forwarding the email from the webmaster to permissions-en@wikimedia.org so that the permission can be archived. ShadowHalo 00:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I will certainly be forwarding the email ASAP! During my 20+ years of residence in Florida (not to mention recent news reports) our state seems to be at the forefront of open-records regulation, most notably the much revered Government in the Sunshine [6] law. Looking forward to ultimate approval and much thanks for your speedy reply! Jasap 01:13, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I wonder if these webmasters are correct. The relevant statute and section of the State Constitution provide for nothing more than open inspection and copying of public records under the supervision of the custodian of the records. They nothing about copyrights, and nothing about republication. On the other hand, if you search through the statues for the word copyright you find all kinds of provisions for state agencies to secure copyrights on work eligible for it. So I'd say that it's not a safe assumption that the webmasters are correct here. Their reasoning is specious in any event. Being a public agency and supported by tax dollars is not relevant to copyright law unless that law says so.

I would furthermore draw attention to the copyright notice at the bottom of every page on the official state legislature website. TCC (talk) (contribs) 01:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Well then maybe I went too far in my reasonable assumptions (e.g. the state level)?? Admittedly I have thus far only communicated with local county agencies who have been quite supportive in my efforts. The fact that they are Law Enforcement agencies provided me with considerable confidence. As I am personally not one to directly challenge a retired U.S. Army Colonel (author of the first/primary reply and Special Projects Coordinator, Webmaster and Public Access Systems Coordinator for Seminole County Sheriff's Office) I will respectfully await a final decision from the folks at permissions-en@wikimedia.org. In the mean time I have forwarded my email to my state senator Lee Constantine and congressman Tom Feeney (correction: Mr. Feeney is my former state congress rep now my U.S. representative; my current state congress rep is Sandra Adams--Jasap 16:40, 28 March 2007 (UTC)) for their thoughts on the matter. Yeah it's quite a stretch to believe they will actually respond but this is pretty important to me so am ready to see what happens... Interestingly I could not help but notice suspiciously similar images on the latter's article(?). Hopefully I will be vindicated here but if not then let this be an oh so humble lesson to me as I am wholly supportive of constructive feedback. Jasap 07:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC) (UPDATED signature; original was 06:14, 22 March 2007 (UTC))

Just as a quick note, the image at Tom Feeney is sourced from the website for the House of Representatives. Since the House of Representatives is a federal body, works there are generally public domain. ShadowHalo 06:17, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I am truly mortified... Please envision me kicking myself severely and repeatedly for neglecting the much mentioned federal gov't exception. Despite my ripe old age of 33 and a network engineer if you can believe it I am somewhat new to this wonderful Wiki world and genuinely want to/have been adding to and improving articles I have encountered which I happen to know something about. I like to think I am not a know-it-all but rather someone who is merely more informed than most?! Thank you sir for keeping me honest as well as your continuing positive feedback! Jasap 06:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, it's no problem at all. Just look above; most of the questions here are about how to add a template or image X, found from a random website through Google, can't be used. Not enough people take the initiative to email the copyright holders. Thanks for doing that, by the way. ShadowHalo 06:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

UPDATE!! The following day another user modified my article in question to include several of the same disputed photos. However, his images included a specific licensing reference to FL Statute 119.01 (1) which reads "It is the policy of this state that all state, county, and municipal records shall be open for personal inspection by any person." Paragraph (2) is also interesting at it refers to "advancements in technology". In conducting further research I found the FL Attorney General interprets this statute to include "All documents, papers, letters, maps, books, tapes, photographs, films, sound recordings, data processing, software, or other material, regardless of the physical form, characteristics, or means of transmission, made or received pursuant to law or ordinance or in connection with the transaction of official business by any agency". Given these agencies are conducting official business by operating their public Web sites it would seem to apply here?? I am updating the associated image tags accordingly and forwarding this info to the permissions folks. An updated example can be found HERE. Thanks again ShadowHalo for your assistance in guiding me through this process and providing me with an excellent education opportunity in copyright law, although I suppose it's not really over until the permission lady sings... Jasap 03:39, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I feel really stupid right now. I discovered that we actually have a template for this. Tag any of these images with {{PD-FLGov}}. ShadowHalo 13:36, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Shadow, that template redirects to {{No license}}.↔NMajdan•talk 17:42, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Dr. S Z Hasan -- Col-jpg.jpg

This image is taken from the family-owned photograph meant for use with publications. There is no objection from the family for its use if used properly, decently. What should now be done to make this image acceptable/usable with the WIKIPEDIA article now posted/Salizaf 05:31, 22 March 2007 (UTC)SALIZAF

[edit] Tagging an image.

Greetings,

The image has been uploaded already. How do we assign a tag to an image? And how do we delete an image. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Freedom Project Jump Off (talk • contribs) 05:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

You can tag an image by finding the appropriate tag at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and adding the appropriate code to the page. Make sure to add the source of the image and, when using copyrighted material, a detailed fair use rationale. ShadowHalo 07:00, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What is the appropriate copyright tag for an image of an album cover scanned by the owner of the album.

I have uploaded an image of an album cover

Chimene_Badi_le_miroir_front.jpg‎

The image was produced by myself scanning the cover of my own album. I am now asked to provide a copyright tag. I would like to do so, but the problem is: I have no idea what the appropriate tag should be in this case. Could someone please help? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Caracolx (talk • contribs) 18:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

{{albumcover}}. Please be sure to include a detailed rationale as to why the image meets our fair use criteria. ShadowHalo 01:04, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture Copyright

I did Upload Alot of Al Ittihad Football Player And i Have all rights from the Photographer " Mohamed Al Deeb & Samir Al Taweel" to use this picturesImage:Makhlof.jpg in wikipedia Al-Ittihad

What should i do to Approve to you that they gave me this right? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bentaher (talk • contribs) 19:03, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

You can forward the email to permissions-en@wikimedia.org so that an administrator with OTRS access can verify the image's copyright status. ShadowHalo 01:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

1) What is Wolf's condition? 2) What is Humphrey and Maud's plan? 3)Why does Humphrey now think he can kill Wolf ?

[edit] Saint

I emailed the owners of [7] and they said all images are in public domain, the only thing I cant find is the public domain tag.

{{PD-author}}. Make sure to forward a copy of the email to permissions-en@wikimedia.org so the permission can be verified and archived. ShadowHalo 01:00, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I forgot something

I accidentally forgot to put a copyright on the image: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hanazano_hikari_specialA.png How can i possibly undo this --Sakimichi 02:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

when did the author release it under a creative commons licsense?Geni 03:37, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Scheda.jpg

The uploaded image was copied from US Palermo official website http://www.ilpalermocalcio.it/en/0607/scheda.jsp?id=1637, can anyone help me to arrange the image become useful? Thank you! --Antony Lam 03:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

That’s a copyrighted non-free image of a living person. We cannot use it on Wikipedia. Please try to find a free image of the same person instead. —xyzzy_n 03:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How to tag an Image?

I am trying to get the GFDL or GNU tag for this image, but am very confused. Can someone help? Here is the imageImage:Rakeop2patch.jpg- Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Robbotis (talk • contribs) 16:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

Are you sure that's licensed under the GFDL or GNU? It looks like creating derivative works is prohibited. ShadowHalo 16:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I created the original, and this one. How do I get it licensed? These instructions on here are Greek to me. Thanks --Otis 17:06, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

What you you mean by "created the original"? It may seem like a silly question and easy answer, but your answer could mean a big difference in the license allowed. --MECU≈talk 18:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Darby Crash Rides Again cover art

I was wondering what copy right it would go under. It's from a re-released demo tape. I don't know exactly who did the art, but since it was originally self released, I'm guessing it was the band itself.

Thanks,

Xtheblademaster

[edit] Copyright issue with image

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RGX http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:RGX_cans.jpg

The image I'm working with I've been given permission by the photographer, and the copyright holder to place on Wikipedia. It is to serve as a reference to the product on the Wikipedia page. How do I make it so it is not listed for speedy deletion?

Thanks

--rgxlife07

Permission for Wikipedia only is not an agreement we want, because of our mission to produce free, reusable content. You should forward any Wikipedia:Copyright-compliant releases to permissions AT wikimedia DOT org, where they will be archived. Jkelly 20:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contradiction on Image:Middle-earth.jpg

If Wikipedia as a hole is GFDL, isn't this a contradiction - either you can copy that image under the conditions of the GFDL, or you are 'fair using' it - we can't have both at the same time. Or am I missing something? --Branislav Jovanovic 08:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I would say that fair use would be correct, until I looked at the image talk page where last July a source was given and quoted as saying it's under the GFDL, by a user whose sole contribution was to upload that image and with a username simliar to the website source. Another user saw that last July and put the license under GFDL on the image page. However, current versions of that source do not support that GFDL license. Asking the user who "verified" this license at the time would probably be the best step, though AGF means we just have to take the license and image as is, though it does need to be cleaned up as I can see a scroll bar from the screen capture. But yes, you were right in seeing that a fair use template and a GFDL template should not belong on the same page. --MECU≈talk 11:46, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] About.com material

I am a HomeCooking follower on About.com, and was recently informed that Wiki and About have differences of opinion. Wiki editors are removing About material [text not images]. True? and what is happening?? --Dumarest 11:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I suspect that there has been some kind of miscommunication here. Wikipedia editors edit articles on Wikipdeia. About.com, which reuses Wikipedia content, update their pages regularly. If an article is deleted here, for instance, About.com will have the article one day, but not the next. This is precisely how things are supposed to work. Jkelly 20:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

But but but - what might cause an article to be deleted here?? usually a Wiki article continues on. I will try to find out what articles might be involved.--Dumarest 21:02, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

You can read about how deletion works at Wikipedia:Deletion. Common reasons to delete articles include a lack of sources for us to create a verifiable article from, content not being encyclopedic (such as dictionary definitions, or recipes), or copyright infringement, but there are many others. Jkelly 21:06, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] project charter

I have an assignment to compile a project charter for publishing a project management book.

So I would like to get some guidlines on how I can go about starting this assignment,from initiation to close out, identifying the stakeholders and objectives,deliverables and 163.195.192.74 15:00, 24 March 2007 (UTC) so on.

My e-mail: khanyisile@dpsa.gov.za.Looking forward to hearing anything that could be of assistance.

KP cele

[edit] Publicity shot of TV character

Hi, I attempted to use an publicity shot from IMDB for the page I created for Brenda Leigh Johnson. If this is not allowable, how do people get permission to use images of TV characters? I know a lot of pages have pictures like what I tried to use... e.g. Robert Goren. What so I do? But making it a publicity shot, isn't it allowable? Otherwise, I wouldn't know whether to contact IMDB, TNT, or the actress herself... Thanks for any advice or help! --ktoonen 19:52, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

You don't need permission to use images of TV characters; however, you do need to make sure that the image meets every criteria at Wikipedia:Fair use criteria. Make sure to tag the image with {{Fair use in}}; for example the image of Brenda Leigh Johnson should be tagged with {{Fair use in|Brenda Leigh Johnson}}. Make sure to also include the source of the image and a detailed fair use rationale that explains why the image meets the fair use criteria. ShadowHalo 23:11, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] non-profit/educational use only

If I'm given the option of uploading my artwork/photography as "for non-profit/educatioanal use only", why do I not really have that option? Why not simply not make that an option when I upload my work?

Also, if I upload a photograph I made, does the permission for any purpose apply only to the image file uploaded? That is, if I upload a small file, will a commercial user be allowed to use a larger version, say, by interpolating the image, etc? Of course, I'm not going to send a full-sized image file to anyone who requests it.Dfcully 20:44, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia content, images and text, is released under the GFDL so any image uploaded has to meet at least these standards. So, any image uploaded to Wikipedia must be licensed for any purpose, including commercial uses, and derivative works must be allowed.↔NMajdan•talk 20:59, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

The reason it is an option in the drop-down menu is that many users simply do not believe that they cannot upload such content to Wikipedia, and then choose another option, which creates a mess. Jkelly 21:02, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

About your second question, I wanna make sure I know what you mean. Suppose you take a picture at 2400x1800px. You want to contribute to the article but you don't want others to be redistributing high resolution versions of your work, so you upload the picture under a free license at only 400x300px and add it to the article. If you did this, then the small version would be freely licensed, but so far as I can tell, you would still maintain your copyright to the original. ShadowHalo 23:05, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes. That is a perfectly legitemate way to do it. Releasing something under a free license does not mean you give up any of your rights to it. Just that you grant others the (irrevokable) right to use the copy you released freely per the terms of the license. So if you for example want to only release a "low resolution" copy under a free license you are fully within your rights to do so and it does not violate any Wikipedia rules either (so long as the images does not contain any visible watermarking or photo credits in the image itself). --Sherool (talk) 16:34, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Chewie.jpg

I have added an image of the caracter of Chewie from the Star Wars because somebody deleted the previous image I fought that there should have been an image of him. I have added a new Image Image:Chewie.jpg and put the source but don't know which tag too put. Can you help thanks.Top Gun 01:11, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

We will have to use this image under fair use. Please read our fair use policy and then use the appropriate tag from Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Fair use and write a fair use rationale in accordance with the policy. Thank you. --MECU≈talk 15:37, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How To get an image on the page?

• I clicked Edit.
• Than add picture.
• Then Example picture came up!
• Then I clicked That!
• Then Upload!

And I don't know why it is opening an new link for the picture,when I want to add it to a place with other pictures and words(etc). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Accarino995 (talk • contribs) 14:12, 26 March 2007 (UTC).

Have you gone though WP:IMAGE? I'm going to guess that you are talking about this image for List of Ben 10 episodes? It appears you figured out how to add the image to the page. However, you also uploaded the same image 3 other times and never provided a source for any of the images. Please provide the source of the image and a fair use rationale for use of this image to comply with our fair use policy. --MECU≈talk 15:34, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] use of photo

http://www.lee-county.com/library/hilary.gif

using image for author Jeff Lindsay photo is from a county government web site but has no attribution as to owner I meant to say that I wanted to use it, it is not posted on Wikipedia, yet.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ovrd (talk • contribs) 15:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC).

Where is that photo being used? I looked at Jeff Lindsay (writer) but didn't see a photo being used, and Image:hilary.gif doesn't exist. Could you point to where it is being used on Wikipedia or the image that was uploaded to Wikipedia please? --MECU≈talk 16:10, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay then, we cannot use this image, because it is not free enough for us. We would have to use this image under our fair use policy which it would fail the first requirement: replaceable. Since this author is still alive, and there is nothing special about this image, we do not want to use it: We want free images. You could try e-mailing the county folks or this author and asking for a picture to be licensed free enough for our use. Please see WP:COPYREQ for help with this. Good luck! --MECU≈talk 16:47, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

--Ovrd 16:57, 26 March 2007 (UTC)thanks!

You may find my recent FL gov't agency related image situation interesting as it would seem to apply HERE. Be sure to read through all of the replies! --Jasap 06:01, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How to add a tag?

How do I add a copyright tag? This image is mine and would like to have it as a free of copyright. Thinkfilmwest 18:57, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

If you want to use the same license as you put on this image you uploaded, go to the other two images you uploaded, click "edit this page" and put {{PD-self}}. --MECU≈talk 22:14, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Public Domain

Why has the criteria all of a suddent changed from: PD-old = This applies to the United States, Canada, the European Union and those countries with a copyright term of life of the author plus 70 years.

to

"This applies to the United States, Canada, the European Union and those countries with a copyright term of life of the author plus 100 years." ?? Milliot 26 March, 2007

Template:PD-old has been 100 years for a year now. See Template talk:PD-old#100 v. 70. You may want to use Template:PD-old-70. --MECU≈talk 22:10, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of image Image:Kate Ceberano.jpg

Hi,

I have had the image Image:Kate Ceberano.jpg deleted this image from the page Kate Ceberano - I am the webmaster for Kate Ceberano and we are would like to have an image of Kate published on Wikipedia from her website. What comments / licence should I use to ensure the image does not get deleted?

Thanks

enzymes 22:27, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

When you upload the image, you need to use one of the licenses at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Free licenses. I recommend {{cc-by-sa-2.0}}, but you can select your own. You can only release an image under these free licenses if you hold the copyright to the image. Be sure to specify the source, even if it's "I took this image". If you are using it on your website as well, you may wish to state that the image can also be found at [url], but as the webmaster for the site and copyright holder, you are allowed to release the image under this license. See Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials#Granting us permission to copy material already on line for more information in that case. Good luck, and come back if you need more help. --MECU≈talk 22:43, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

Please could you check if i have changed the copyright ...etc...correctly to this image. Thank you

Image:Drachten gig.jpg --Debbywebby2006 23:41, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I've removed the {{untagged}} template since you have {{attribution}} on there. However, the {{cc-by-2.5}} template isn't quite right. Actually it's {{cc-by-sa-2.5}} that requires that any derivative works are under the same license; it's possible for someone to modify a cc-by-2.5 image and put a more restrictive copyright on it (though they still have to acknowledge you as an author). Also, the parameter for both templates should be the way you want to be attributed (your name, username, website, etc.) instead of a summary of the license. ShadowHalo 23:49, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

how do I tag this image? It needs to be tagged

Image15.jpg

[edit] Fair Use & Replaceability wrt Publicity Photos of Living People

Recently I uploaded THIS IMAGE to illustrate a bio article for a prominent musician. It's a publicity shot taken from the website of the artist's PR firm. At first I just had the generic {{promophoto}} up there; I've since supplied a more specific "rationale," which I hope is more satisfactory. But I also almost immediately got a tag from an admin saying the pic "illustrates a subject for which a free image might reasonably be found or created that adequately provides the same information."

In general I don't understand the assertion that because a subject is a living person, a "free license" image of them is easily obtainable. Certainly freely viewable images can be found, & I did try both through Google and through several of the links offered at WP:PDIMG, but for the pictures I did find it is almost always impossible to determine even the origin of the image, much less the copyright status.

There does exist another image of this subject at Image:Spano-Robert.jpg. It was uploaded in 2005, by a user with 3 total edits in their history, The image page baldly claims that the copyright holder has "irrevocably released all rights" to the image, but this claim is not explained or documented in any way. [disregard this part, as that image has since been tagged for deletion. Turangalila 3/28]

Given all this I decided to use the first image, which is both attributable and explicitly offered for reproduction. Am I way off base here?

Please respond either on my talk page or on the image's talk page, as my watchlist is overloaded already. thanks much,
--Turangalila (talk) 00:28, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Use of either of those images wouldn't be a good idea. They both would be replaceable fair use. It doesn't matter if they release the image for promotional purposes, it still has to comply with our fair use criteria, of which #1 is replaceable, and this clearly is. --MECU≈talk 12:44, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] expiry of copyright

(copied here from the general help desk)

I've gotten into a (so far good-natured) disagreement over copyright expiry with a potential copyright holder, and would like to verify that I don't misunderstand the copyright regulations as well as to get help for a dispute resolution that will leave everyone feeling okay.

The story: I've uploaded several images whose authors have clearly died more than 70 years ago (e.g., architectural sketches by Thomas Jefferson: example). Now someone from one of the Special Collections of the University of Virginia Library has asked me to add "Copyright, Rector and Visitors of the University of Virginia" to the images. (I had contacted them with a question about the authorship of further images and had indicated which article I wished to use them for; in this article he saw the images that I'm talking about.)

My opinion: I replied that there seemed to be a misunderstanding--to my knowledge, copyright expires 70 years after the death of the author (at the end of the year); copies of two-dimensional works don't represent copyrightable material and thus are not copyrighted beyond the 70 years either; and derivative work of those copies (i.e. my edited, uploaded images) cannot be copyrighted either. Bottomline: I can't attribute copyright to the Library because the works are not copyrighted.

Status quo: I got a friendly reply, saying that the person writing to me was no copyright attorney and could not "confirm or deny with any hope of accuracy [my] interpretation of the copyright laws". And he reiterated his request that I add the line about the Library's copyright to the pictures.

My problem: I don't know where best to go from here and would appreciate any help and suggestions: Am I grossly misunderstanding something about copyrights? (I've even started looking up some legal texts, but don't see what I may be misinterpreting; and the interpretation seems to be common on Wikipedia.) If not, how do I find a good solution with the Library? I definitely don't want to alienate them (esp. not as Wikipedia is seen as part of this--the UVa Library is a great library, they have nice online resources and could still be a valuable resource for other Wikipedians). On the other hand, I've even heard something about it being illegal (?) to claim a copyright that doesn't exist [could someone fill me in with the correct facts and the terminology?], so Wikipedia obviously shouldn't claim something like that if it's not true. Besides, if the works are copyrighted, we're of course getting into trouble with the licensing...

My request: Again, any recommendations, explanations (are there controversies about the interpretation of the copyright laws which could explain the Library's stand?), anything would be very appreciated. Relatedly, I'd love to know the exact meaning of "Courtesy of..." - I've seen several authors used the Library's materials with that line underneath the images. Does it have any legal implication? Would it be "okay" to write that into the description of the images even if they were not (!) downloaded from the resp. Library? etc. etc. Thanks!!! --Ibn Battuta 23:07, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll start off by stating IANAL. However, the copyright on any images made by Thomas Jefferson has expired. According to Bridgeman Art Library v. Corel Corp., if a museum (or anyone) makes faithful reproductions of these works, the reproductions are also public domain. So far as I know, there is nothing that requires you to state "Courtesy of"; however, you may choose to do so if you want. ShadowHalo 02:28, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

On this issue, Wikipedia relies on an element of United States case law; in this case the court's decision in Bridgeman Art Library v. Corel Corp. Although this is not binding on courts outside the jurisdiction where it was issued, it creates a precedent that other judges might be inclined to follow. The commonly used {{PD-art}} tag relies on it to assert that a simple reproduction of public domain 2-dimensional art is not itself copyrightable. Also see WP:PD# Non-creative works. This is a guideline, not policy, but it's universally followed here. Note however that this only applies in the US at best. Unless other countries have statutory laws saying essentially the same thing, we can't say for sure that this would be PD anywhere else. And since it's not binding on courts throughout the country as a Supreme Court decision would be -- or a Circuit Court of Appeals, which would carry more weight over a larger area than a district court would -- there will be cases where people will claim copyright where we here do not believe it exists.

We should not apply their copyright notice, which would complicate things for us here under Wikipedia policy anyway. (We could probably use a low-resolution version of it under fair use though, since it's unique.) Write them back and direct them to here. Staff will evaluate their copyright claim and remove the media if it is valid. But it most likely isn't.

"Courtesy of..." is nothing more than an identification of the image source, expressed in a polite way. TCC (talk) (contribs) 02:46, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] About Image:SaddamGrave.jpg

I've copied the Fair Use Rationale explanations from Image talk:SaddamGrave.jpg and put it onto its image description page, so do you think it's okay if I delete the warning template? --Angeldeb82 04:27, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

It is from Reuters, so no. Jkelly 04:33, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

If I can't delete the warning template, then how do I save the picture from deletion? Do I have to change it from a "fair use" picture to a "public domain" picture? --Angeldeb82 19:13, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

No, because the image is not in the public domain, so that would be very dishonest. The copyright to that picture is held by Reuters, who offer their customers information provided over the web, illustrated with professional quality photography. We can only claim Wikipedia:Fair use on those images for which our use has no commercial impact on the copyright holder. Images from Reuters, AP, stock photography sellers, etc. are off limits with very few exceptions. Jkelly 19:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Then how do I save the picture? If I can't, then I might as well remove it from the two articles which I posted that picture on, unless you help me. --Angeldeb82 19:40, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tagging my image

Very confused. I'm trying to tag our companies logo. I don't see anywhere how to do this? Logo is LAGLOGO.GIF —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Chuckharrell (talk • contribs) 18:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

Image:IAGlogo.jpg is already correctly licensed. However, you did not provide a fair use rationale per our fair use criteria. Please write a rationale. Further, that image is currently an orphan, meaning it is not used in an article on Wikipedia. Please insert the image into an appropriate article. The same applies to Image:Eautomationpro.gif. Thank you, and welcome to Wikipedia! --MECU≈talk 19:25, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Horwich in Greater Manchester

I recently uploaded Image:Horwich in Greater Manchester.png. I didn't answer the "Licensing" question and left it "None selected". Instead in the "Summary" box I've given a good explaination that it is a public domain image which was created by one of Wikipedia's contributors, User:Jhamez84. I'm still quite new to uploading and find the "Licensing" question doesn't really explain clearly. On Wikipedia page Image:Horwich in Greater Manchester.png there is a red-lined box stating that the image doesn't have a copyright tag and that it may be deleted. Will my summary explaination surfice? Cwb61 (talk) 19:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I've nommed this for deletion as it is inaccurate and inconsitent with every other Greater Manchester settlement article. Jhamez84 02:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sports logos of amateur teams

Hi

I am trying really hard to help lay some groundwork on the education front by documenting the American Football teams in the Netherlands. Yet every time I upload a logo or helmet it gets deleted.

I cannot understand why this happens, as it is clear that under the following rules the logo should be accepted:

This is a logo of an organization, item, or event, and is protected by copyright and/or trademark. It is believed that the use of low-resolution images of logos

   * to illustrate the organization, item, or event in question
   * on the English-language Wikipedia, hosted on servers in the United States by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation,

qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law. Any other uses of this image, on Wikipedia or elsewhere, may be copyright infringement. Certain commercial use of this image may also be trademark infringement. See Wikipedia:Fair use and Wikipedia:Logos.

Why, even when I quote this, does it continue to be marked for deletion ? I don't have all day to spend on the site, and it's a real shame for our sport which I am heavily involved in that our pages look ugly due to this over-moderation.

This applies to: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Upload&wpDestFile=Delfthelmet.gif http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Upload&wpDestFile=DelftDragonsLogo.gif http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:Afbn_logo_klein.gif&action=edit

It's starting to get very irritating.

Steve —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SteveCru (talk • contribs) 19:51, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

In what articles have you used them? Fair use depends on the context in which the image appears. If you haven't actually placed them into an article, they indeed need to be deleted.

You also have to supply a fair use rationale apart from the text in the tag. See Help:Image page#Fair use rationale. And just for the sake of precision, consider using {{sports uniform}} instead of {{logo}}.

It might also be worth the time to contact the person who did the deletion according to the log (for instance, [8]) to ask him why he thought the image was tagged with an invalid license. He could no doubt be very specific about what he's looking for in a proper fair use upload. It may have had something to do with the upload summary, as we cannot use "by permission" media there. Don't say that -- just upload it, tag it, and provide a valid fair use rationale and it should stick. TCC (talk) (contribs) 07:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:The Big PowerMacBoy

This user has uploaded several images from the Tango Project (which are Creative-Commons-licensed), but has placed them under odd licenses, such as being a screenshot of Mac software, or pulbic domain. Also, he has a very high-resolution image of the old rainbow apple logo. I already brought this up in the IRC channel, but I figured I'd put it here, too. See his log file for other images he has uploaded (and I suspect copyvio on some of those, too.) Stale Fries ^{taste better} 22:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

If the Tango Project images are mistagged, you can just be bold and apply the correct tags yourself. Make sure you link to the source if that hasn't been done already, and also to where the license is indicated. Note that not all CC licenses are appropriate for Wikipedia, so putting the correct tag may result in their being deleted. I'm sure neither of us will weep overmuch.

I don't know that I'd call the Apple logo "very high res", but it's also an orphaned fair use image. Fair use only applies in an article that provides an appropriate context; an orphaned image doesn't have one. So we have a copyright violation here. Feel free to list it at WP:CP or tag it with {{db-copyvio}} unless it gets used in an appropriate article. If you do the latter, be sure to make the uploader aware of policy in case you have not already done so.

For other images you know are copyright violations, list them at WP:CP to, or add {{db-copyvio}} if you can find where they came from and the violation is blatant. In particular, a lot of those Apple icons he claims are his own work he seems to have simply recolored. They're obviously mistagged. They'd be fair use at best -- except that recoloring them doesn't serve that purpose, and he seems to use them only on his user page. There is no fair use justification for user pages.

If this is user is a continual a problem this way, and you've tried to inform him that what he's doing is incorrect and he persists, you might also want to bring this up at WP:ANB for administrator intervention, which you can't necessarily get here. I don't think the normal dispute resolution process is applicable; this isn't a content issue. TCC (talk) (contribs) 07:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Screens at live performances

I saw an image yesterday (I can't remember which) that got me thinking... Many concerts will have people filming and broadcasting what's happening onstage on screens behind or to either side of the stage. Since someone else is taking the original footage, is it copyrighted if someone takes a picture of the screen rather than what's actually happening onstage? ShadowHalo 03:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

IANL, but I would say such images are copyrighted, and should be treated as unfree by default. One has to assume the image is recorded, even if its shown live. Incidently, an example, which I've asked about before is Image:Kate Walsh Ted Global 2.JPG, which somehow, has been allowed. So, my opinion may not be the prevaling one, on this issue. --Rob 08:05, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

hmm the two questions are does the screen count as a fixed form and is it creative enough to qualify for copyright. For the the second I would go for yes in the first I really don't know I'm not sure there has been a relivant court ruleing personaly I would tend to play safe an assume copyright but I'm not sure one way or the other.Geni 18:47, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Where is the copyright tag edit option?

The image I uploaded Image:Unger1.jpg has been marked with a "This image does not have a copyright tag..." warning, but I have spent days trying to work out how to add a copyright tag. Sorry, but I am totally confused! Where is the 'edit' option? Should I delete the image and re-upload it with more information on why we believe it to be Fair Use? --Miryam bella 07:10, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

You can click "edit this page" at the top of the page and add the appropriate code (see Wikipedia:Image copyright tags if you're not sure what code to use to tag it). I noticed that it's described as public domain. To verify this, you'll need to add the specific year in which it was made since only images from 1922 and before are automatically in the public domain (there are some other ways it might be PD listed at Template talk:PD-US). ShadowHalo 07:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply - I don't know how I missed the "edit this page"! This is looking too complicated so I have removed the link to this image, and am now trying to work out how to delete the image altogether. As far as I am aware it is not possible to state exactly when the photograph was taken and/or first published; all I know is that it was taken in Germany in the 1920s, and has since (i.e. for approximately 80 plus years) been published in Germany and England by different newspapers, journals and books relating to Dr Unger. The image I uploaded was a low resolution, cleaned up (by me) version of a scan of a copy of the image. --Miryam bella 07:01, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

If you're asking how to delete the image, you can add {{db-author}} to the image. ShadowHalo 07:16, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How do I make a tag for my image?

How do you make a copyright tag for an image that you have made by yourself? --Asdfghq

Luckily, you do not need to make a copyright tag for your image, they have already been made and you just simply need to add one to your image. First off, check out this list of image copyright tags. Then, its just a matter of picking one best suits your image and copyright preference. For an image you made, I would suggest using either {{PD-self}} or {{GFDL-self}} but you could also use a Creative Commons license.↔NMajdan•talk 15:32, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Wilkinsonandkitzinger.jpg

Could someone please identify the correct tag for this image? It's taken from Wilkinson and Kitzinger's website, which states "you are free to use any of the images of us on this site." Exploding Boy 04:42, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

That's a little too vague for us. It might be {{NoRightsReserved}} or it might be {{PD-release}} or {{PD-author}}, or there might be restrictions. The best approach would be to email them and ask if they place any restrictions on how their images might be used, and if they're retaining the copyrights. The correct tag depends on their answer. Save the reply. If their answer means the image is usable here, forward it to permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org for archiving.

Don't get discouraged if the image is deleted. If it turns out we can use is, you can always upload it again and add the correct tag. TCC (talk) (contribs) 04:59, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Vague? "You are free to use any of the images of us on this site" seems pretty clear. A very brief Google search reveals that this same image is used on at least 3 other sites (including equalmarriage.ca and sfbaytimes.com), and other images from their site appear on even more sites. Exploding Boy 15:59, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that is vague. We need to know how we can use these images. Saying they are "free" isn't enough. Do they mean that they just don't want to be paid for it but require attribution? Or do they mean "in the public domain" free? A quick email to clarify which you should send into Wikipedia so it gets logged via OTRS would be a good idea too. --MECU≈talk 18:01, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please could you determine the copyright of this pic? (2)

I found it here---->[9]

Thanks in advance.

vincent shooter 10:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Can you provide a better link? That link links directly to the image, and we need to see the HTML page it is used on to determine the copyright. Also, what kind of plane is this? There there an article here at Wikipedia about it? Does the place still exist today? Could someone go take a picture of the image and release it freely (is it possible? even if it's not likely?)? MECU≈talk 12:46, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I looked at the image you uploaded here, and for a source you gave "google". This is most likely not an image we can allow here. Please do not search for images on Google. --MECU≈talk 18:19, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

The image source is here: [10]. We definitely can't use it. Even the guys who upload pictures to that forum don't always appear to know where they came from. TCC (talk) (contribs) 02:13, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

To elaborate: We can't assume a free license. I also don't believe this falls under fair use because it should be possible to take a photo of a Moroccan AF plane at international air shows and so forth, so this is at least theoretically replaceable. TCC (talk) (contribs) 02:15, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I would caution fellow Wikipedians to not assume anything is "possible" here! A friend of mine was recently arrested, interrogated and briefly incarcerated after taking photos of Moroccan Air Force fighter jets while exiting his flight to Casablanca from NYC. He was eventually released with a warning that Moroccan military aircraft cannot be photographed under any circumstances. Unfortunately I do not know what (if any) restrictions are in place outside of Morocco. --Jasap 05:02, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I assumed it was illegal in Morocco, which is why I suggested an air show. I said "international" thinking of the Paris show, but what I really meant was "outside Morocco". TCC (talk) (contribs) 21:12, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi there. Thanks for clarifying my doubts. I needed a picture of a Moroccan fighter or military aircraft, to complete the article on the Moroccan Air Force I wrote some time ago, that's why I looked for it on Google Images, but unfortunately it seems the copyright status is unknown. I found another link, and this time it seems there is no problem with the copyright, since it is on a professional military website. Please could someone here tell me if it is alright to upload the following pictures:--->

picture1 picture2

scramble

thanks in advance

vincent_shooter 09:35, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I would again say no. That website appears to take images from donations on the website, or other means, and publish them in a magazine. We would need to use the images then under fair use, for which replaceable would again apply. As to reply to Jasap above, just because you, I, your brother, or another Wikipedian can't take an image, doesn't mean one can't be created or freely found. The US Military might likely have some good information about planes of other countries. I agree that taking images of military planes is bad. When I was in the Marines I had a friend come to our unit from an air wing unit who said it's illegal to take images of planes (etc), so the images he has are of him playing golf, and oh, a plane happens to be in the background. MECU≈talk 14:30, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

And even if it was a "professional military website" -- which I take to mean an official website of some military force -- the .nl means "Netherlands" so it would probably be theirs. I have no idea whether work of the Dutch government is PD as work of the US government is. The latter is mandated by statute, and it's not true in all countries. TCC (talk) (contribs) 21:15, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Air Force Roundel copyright question

I recoloured the image USAAC_Roundel.svg‎ to make it have the correct colours, but I do not know how to "freely replace" an image as the copyright warning advises, I think. How do I "freely replace" an image? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.95.135.48 (talk) 11:54, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

I don't know what you mean by "freely replace"? Also, Image:USAAC_Roundel.svg is on commons. If you corrected a problem with the image, you should reupload under the same filename and overwrite the existing file. You'll get an error during uploading stating such, but click "Save as-is" (or something like that) and it will overwrite the existing file. Otherwise, please try to explain more what you mean or need help with. MECU≈talk 18:08, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] About SIM

Hi, this is a student working on a project related to mobile technology. I want to know the process in a mobile from user dialing a number; start conversation till he ends the call.From where to where and how the data flows in this process. What is the job of SIM in a mobile phone and what it stores.......

Can any one help me..... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Boddeti (talk • contribs) 14:33, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

Please ask this question at: Wikipedia:Reference desk. MECU≈talk 18:03, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Byfordbulls.jpg

This is just a copy of the Chicago Bulls logo (Image:Chicago Bulls logo.png) except someone erased "Chicago" and put "Byford" to make their "own" logo. I can't see how this might be acceptable, but I don't really know. --Strangerer (Talk | Contribs) 15:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

This was done by a new user, who uploaded it and used it on their userpage User:Shibby007 for an "article" about their team. They only have 2 edits (the image and the userpage). It will likely be deleted within a week. It is already tagged no license. MECU≈talk 18:06, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Old Bughouse Square image

I was wondering if I can use Image:Bughouse Square.jpg in Washington Square Park, Chicago. I don't have any date information, but I image an expert might be able to approximate a date. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 00:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you can use it there since it's a public domain image. Why do you need the date to use it there though? MECU≈talk 16:31, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, it wasn't explicitly stated that the image was in the public domain, but TonyTheTiger's guess is that the image was taken before 1923. ShadowHalo 16:41, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I'm not sure what I'm missing here

Image:Krishnakumarmenonsinger.JPG It says it's missing a Copyright. How do I add one on? ImtiazAA 15:20, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

It has a copyright license, rationale and source, so I removed the tags saying otherwise that were added because you put "Some website" in the drop down box. However, this image appears to be replaceable since he is still alive and singing. Please read the fair use criteria, especially #1. MECU≈talk 16:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] UNEP

As a collaboration center we have can use UNEP images. I'm refering Image:unep.gif and want to ask what kind of Tag would be the most appropriate.

Thanks for your help!!

unep.gif discussion by --Energybase 15:42, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

{{logo}} would seem appropriate. Though you should then also write a fair use rationale guideline and use the logo on an article so it is not orphaned. MECU≈talk 16:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Legal action

Can you please give me your mailing address where I can send you a cease and desist letter from our lawyer for your violation of our copyright on the file name Conrad_black_cp_harris that appears on your site. There is no fair use in this case and our images is stored on your servers and being distributed. The policy of The Canadian Press, like AP, is to prosecute. The picture must be removed from your site immediately.

Sincerely,

Ron Poling Executive Director, Picture Services The Canadian Press 36 King Street, East, Toronto, Ontario. M5C 2L9

416-507-2166 ron.poling@cp.org

On the following link you can find the contact information for the Wikimedia foundation. [11]. However, the image is already deleted. Garion96 (talk) 19:04, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Garion, it might also be wise to notify the uploader of this issue to prevent him/her from taking images from this source in the future. You may already be in the process of doing this, but I just wanted to suggest it.↔NMajdan•talk 19:09, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yumi Kakazu image

I found a pic of Yumi Kakazu on the Indonesian language article for her[[12]]. I figured permission was granted for use on wikipedia Image:Yumi Kakazu.jpg[[13]] The Indonesian pic seems to credit this website Genki-Pro.com

Not being able to read anything in the non English links I have provided I am unaware of what other information is necessary. Irate velociraptor 07:33, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, copyrighted images cannot be used on the English Wikipedia to illustrate living people, even with permission for use on Wikipedia. Our material needs to be reusable by others. ShadowHalo 08:25, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyrighted artwork?

User:Wizzywiz has uploaded Image:Ganga Devi.jpg where he has stated that he redrew the image. Considering that images Hindu deities may be the creative artwork of an artist, would a redraw constitute to be an imagevio? =Nichalp «Talk»= 08:16, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Redrawing is somewhat vague, it could range anywhere from using the original as inspiration (which is fine) to tracing or photocopying the image (which is not ok). Given that he says it's original I would lean to the side of ok, but as is the question is difficult to answer. - cohesion 16:24, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I know, answering this is hard. I guess we'd have to WP:AGF on behalf of the uploader for now. =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:46, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess. It's not being used on any articles though, I wonder if there are plans to. If they never do you might think about WP:IFD since it's somewhat questionable. - cohesion 20:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help

I have just uploaded a picture of General Sir Charles Asgill, 2nd Baronet to be added to the article I have written on this army officer. I did not see the instructions to link the picture to the article so would appreciate help with this please. The image has been provided to me by the National Army Museum in London, to whom I paid £45 in order to have the picture added to my article on General Asgill (together with the picture which is already there). I also want to use this opportunity to try to locate the original oil on canvass portrait so added a note to this effect when I uploaded the picture. There are warning notices which have come up to say that I cannot upload this picture onto Wikipedia. I hope this is not the case since, having paid £45 for the privilege of doing so, and permission from NAM has been granted, I hope it will be possible for somebody to link it to my entry for me? The picture I am referring to is labelled Image:AI - From NAM-2.jpg Thanks to anybody who is able to assist me. --Arbil44 09:51, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I've added the {{holdon}} template for now to keep the image from being deleted. Since Asgill died in the 1800s, this image is likely in the public domain. Do you know who made the work (and most importantly, when he/she made it or when he/she died)? ShadowHalo 11:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for putting the holdon tag to the image. I know nothing about the timescale of the picture, other than that it is a mezzotint by Charles Turner, done as a reproduction of an oil on canvass by Sir Thomas Phillips - that oil was exhibited at the Royal Academy in London in 1822. The National Army Museum have granted me a license to use the scan of the mezzotint picture on Wikipedia, for which privilege I have already paid them £45. They have told me to get back to them if there are problems with uploading the image, but really, given that I have had to pay good money to put this picture on this site, then surely it can be uploaded to my Asgill, 2nd Baronet, page? NAM did say that there should be buried computer info. within the uploaded image which would be "recognised". God knows, I know I don't!--212.120.227.249 16:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I believe SH is mistaken about the image being public domain because of its age. The original painting certainly would be if it was done from life, but that simple reproductions of public domain -- such as this one -- are also public domain is a matter of U.S. Federal case law, not statutory law. In other words, it's based on a court's interpretation of existing law; it's not something the law says directly. It may not apply in the UK. Consult your local authorities.

However, the basic problem is that we cannot use images "by permission" here. Wikipedia is made available under the GFDL and all content must be either public domain, or available under some license compatible with the GFDL. An image that's licensed "for Wikipedia only" doesn't meet this criterion. When you tagged it "by permission" it was therefore automatically identified for deletion. I'm very sorry it cost you so much money. Perhaps on consideration they'd find the GFDL or one of the compatible Creative Commons licenses acceptable? TCC (talk) (contribs) 17:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I wrote the above without noting your reply. I hadn't realized this was a mezzotint copy. Normally a "slavish copy" isn't eligible for copyright, but I'm not sure if this qualifies since its in a different medium and I don't know how much creative work was required to make the plate by way of interpretation of the original. There's a good chance this is copyrighted, which explains the need to a license. Unfortunately, that doesn't change our situation with regard to what makes an acceptable license on Wikipedia. TCC (talk) (contribs) 18:28, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] System Analysis and Design

Question: S & M Consult is an establishment with a workforce of 200 employees. you have been contracted to prepare a pay roll based on the following information. 1. Employees are ranked as CEO, Executives, Senior and Junior. 2. The basic salary is computed on the CEO's salary of $10,000 for all categories of employees. 3. Famale executive and senior employees have their basis salaries computed as 75% of the CEO"s basic. 4. Male executive employees are paid 80%, Male senior employees get 76% and the rest are paid 50% of the CEO's basic salary. 5. With the exception senior and junior male employees who receive a fix amount of $500 and 5% of basic and Female senior and junior employees who receive $500 and 20% of basic as the allowances, the rest receive 40.5% of basic as the allowance. 6. Deductions are calculated on basic salary except welfare which is a fix amount adjusted at the end of every year. 7. Gross is the accumulation of basic and allowances. 8. Net is gross less deductions.

Draw a flowchart to represent this.

We don't do homework. =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)