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Contents 1 Re : AfD Logs 2 Michael Behe mediation 3 Welcome to VandalProof! 4 Please read History 5 Jay Ryan 6 WikiProject 7 Wiki Project Occult 8 Hello SM! 9 Hello 10 Katie Leung 11 New Infobox 12 Thanks to Y.O.U!! 13 Thoth 14 VandalProof 15 Wikipedia Research Survey Request 16 Bibliography of The Da Vinci Code 17 999's Vendetta 18 prod -> AfD 19 Articles Feedback 19.1 Dewa Budjana's references 20 Barnstar 21 Statement on Onslaught of Challenges 22 Requests for Support 23 Hermeticism pages 24 Red links 25 Please support 26 Content dispute 27 Stub-sorting Barnstar 28 Your Edit to New York State Route 5 29 Offending personal information 30 Geomantic figures 31 Re: Question about OR on Hermeticism and other thought systems 32 Re : Relisting 33 Thanks for the work on stubsensor 34 Re: Question about stubsensor 35 Hermetic alchemy 36 The Perfect Matrimony 37 Reignyday 37.1 look 38 Re: Clearing something up 39 G.D. tradition 40 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Everyone Poops 41 CheckUser 42 Your RfA 43 Re : an AfD 44 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jim Boyd (musician) 45 :) 46 Image copyright problem with Image:CaGuJung.jpg 47 Re: Aleister Crowley 48 Necromancy Articles 49 IRC 50 Recent response to ZIP codes 51 Told you so... 52 The Order of Thelemic Knights 53 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mariano Anto Bruno Mascarenhas 54 your RfA 55 Request for expansion 56 Thank you 57 Your RfA 58 AOL Problems 59 Re: Request 60 Thank you! 61 Your RfA 62 Personal attacks... 63 Your rfa 64 AfD Project 65 RE: MedCabal case 66 Re Daniel Brandt 67 RfA thanks 68 stubsensor cleanup project is back 69 August Esperanza Newsletter 70 Kenneth Grant 71 Sex magic 72 Ramsquire's RfA 73 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of basic management topics 74 AfD closing 75 User page in main namespace

[edit] Re : AfD Logs

Yeah, when I just woke up, closed a few AfDs at 18 July (because I count by 120 hours rather than 5 days, AfDs list for 6 days to ensure the 120h treshold passes completely for all AfDs into the 5th day)...and then sensed something amiss. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Encyclopædia Dramatica (3rd nomination) nominator's comment was around 19 July. Then when I counted the number of hours, it became even more amiss when 18 July was way short to the 120 hours' grace. =P

Mistakes do happen now and then in this aspect, so don't worry too much about this. I understand there will be occasional hiccups on updating WP:AfD/Old, since AllyUnion's AfD/VfD bot is 'dead', which these days in the era of automation we take reliability way too much for granted. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 09:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Michael Behe mediation

I'm afraid you're being used here; there's noting to mediate. ChulaOne (talk • contribs) has failed to discuss his edits at the article in any real depth, instead favoring edit warring and rushing to force his edits in through mediation since he's unable to make a cogent case on the talk page. There is broad consensus among 6-7 long-time contributors to this article, including a number of admins, that the edits sought by ChulaOne fall short in accuracy while violating violating WP:NPOV#Undue weight and thus have no place in the article. This article has been maintained for several years now by the same very knowledgeable editors and admins. So my suggestion to all parties is that ChulaOne learn to start abiding by consensus, become more knowledgeable/less POV on the topic, and stop edit warring, and Guettarda to not waste his time. FeloniousMonk 19:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to VandalProof!

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[edit] Please read History

The article you marked Jay Ryan was in request for more than two years. I can see why now. Four attempts at speedy deletion on a crappy subject. I don't even know who this Jay guys is.. meatclerk 02:14, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

When I came across the article, it looked more like a talk page. Please read WP:RS, WP:NN and WP:V. Thanks. SynergeticMaggot 02:16, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jay Ryan

Why don't you. I'm about to watch a movie... —Hanuman Das 02:31, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I knew there was a reason I dis liked you! :p SynergeticMaggot 02:33, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject

• I'm wondering if you wouldnt mind me adding WikiProject Thelema as a parent project to a WikiProject I just created: Wikipedia:WikiProject Occult? SynergeticMaggot 03:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Certainly...looks like you set up a nice project. I don't "own" WikiProject Thelema, but I appreciate your asking. Good luck with it...I will probably join eventually... –Frater5 (talk/con) 13:50, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki Project Occult

Well, then, okay. Please note that I currently only work on WP when I'm in the office, so won't usually reply on the weekends or evenings. I'm not sure what all a Wiki Project on the occult ought to include... I'm interested in Magick and Thelema and some other aspects of the Western Mystery Tradition, but not necessarily the occult in general... -999 (Talk) 15:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

It would include anything related. There are seperate WikiProjects for things like spirituality of other things of that nature, so I wont be including new age or Sylvia Browne related nonsense. Just Occult related articles that wouldnt fall under Thelema. Things like occult orders/orgs, magic(k), writers, publishers, books, styles etc. Pretty much everything you already work on. The wikiproject is new to me too. I've still got to make a template, a talk box, fix my to do list, and overall, make the main page look like its worth something so others will join! SynergeticMaggot 19:33, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello SM!

Sorry I didn't respond sooner - I've been "globe trotting" on business lately in Europe and sometimes net access is spotty.

So how goes it all? I don't think I can compose any new articles until I return to the USA in late August, but I'd certainly like to do an article on the Flying Rolls; there are some interesting historical quirks in their story, but I'd have to duplicate some old research and come up with the citations.

(I'm "cc:ing" this message to User 999)

- JMax555 00:35, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Sorry [1], but this is bizarro day, so the anons will be reverting vandalism by registered users. Thanks. ;) 70.30.190.97 03:06, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

My mistake. Browser is acting up. SynergeticMaggot 03:12, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Katie Leung

I am reverting honest vandalism here. 67.162.126.159 03:09, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

No worries.  :D 67.162.126.159 03:11, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Infobox

Actually, that is not exactly what I'm looking for. I reckon those are just a list of the existing templates/infoboxes. What I need is, I want to make a really new infobox, about guitar specification, like, type of wood, artist, company and stuff. So do you know where and how can I make my own new infobox to make a new project?

Thanks - Imoeng 06:28, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I will spoil this page : ) just kidding

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox

Ibanez JEM

[[Image:{{{image}}}|300px| ]] {{{caption}}}
Wood Type:	Adler
Pickup:	DiMarzio
Artist Related:	Steve Vai

I think its pretty good for now.. Thanks again..

Not a problem. I'm just glad to be of some help :p SynergeticMaggot 07:15, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks to Y.O.U!!

I dedicated this page for you, for guiding me... Guitar Specs Infobox

Thanks again, Imoeng 13:26, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Why thanks :) SynergeticMaggot 15:43, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thoth

By the way, I closed and moved Thoth. Thought you'd like to know. -999 (Talk) 20:27, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

You actually beat me to it. I was just about to move it when someone suggested it. SynergeticMaggot 20:29, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof

I'm afraid I do my editting from Linux; VP is a Windows program... -999 (Talk) 20:30, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Research Survey Request

Hello, I am a member of a research group at Palo Alto Research Center (formerly known as Xerox PARC) studying how conflicts occur and resolve on Wikipedia. Due to your experience in conflict resolution on Wikipedia (e.g., as a member of the Mediation Cabal) we’re extremely interested in your insights on this topic. We have a survey at http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=400792384029 which we are inviting a few selected Wikipedians to participate in, and we would be extremely appreciative if you would take the time to complete it. As a token of our gratitude, we would like to present you with a PARC research star upon completion. Thank you for your time.

Parc wiki researcher 00:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
PARC User Interface Research Group

Done :) SynergeticMaggot 02:38, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bibliography of The Da Vinci Code

Does this fall under WP:NOT? —Hanuman Das 05:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd have to say no. In my opinion, its an indiscriminate collection of information under WP:NOT, although the last time I tried that on AfD, it didnt go so well. They all complained because it wasnt listed under it, in the 11 filed. But I'm still looking for some guideline, even if its just proposed, because there isnt a need for it. SynergeticMaggot 05:16, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Would it be original research? Does this bibliography exist in some reputable source? Or is it simply the opinion of the editor(s) of the article that these books are related to the Da Vinci Code? —Hanuman Das 05:24, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Whadda you mean, "not copyrighted" - everything is copyrighted. A notice hasn't been required since 1985. Copyright automatically vests in the author at the moment of creation and only an explicit statement releasing the work into the public domain by the author can make it otherwise. Can you say "copyvio"? —Hanuman Das 05:46, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, I checked the web site it was taken from, and there was no copyright on the bottom. I usually see this. Also, its more common sense for me to think that there is no copyright on a basic list of references an author used to create a fiction book. SynergeticMaggot 05:49, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

The lack of a notice means nothing. Its copyrighted. Any copying from a website is a copyvio, notice or no. As I said, the law does not require a notice. —Hanuman Das 05:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Well if you want, you can list it for AfD anyway. I'll support it of course. SynergeticMaggot 06:00, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 999's Vendetta

He's clearly trying to get on my case at this point. Do I report this to WP:AN or do an RfC on user?

KV(Talk) 18:46, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Also, he called Mental Gender "occult cruft" for his whole argument.

cruft

/kruhft/ [very common; back-formation from crufty] 1. n.

An unpleasant substance. The dust that gathers under your bed is

cruft; the TMRC Dictionary correctly noted that attacking it with a broom only produces more. 2. n. The results of shoddy construction. 3. vt. [from `hand cruft', pun on `hand craft'] To write assembler code for something normally (and better) done by a compiler (see hand-hacking). 4. n. Excess; superfluous junk; used esp. of redundant or superseded code. 5. [University of Wisconsin] n. Cruft is to hackers as gaggle is to geese; that is, at UW one properly says "a cruft of hackers".

A clear violation of WP:CIVIL

KV(Talk) 18:48, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Cruft is a term used on AfD. I'm not sure what you should do. If you feel he is violating some policy then yes, report him to WP:ANI, although I'm not sure how he is violating civil. SynergeticMaggot 18:59, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] prod -> AfD

Well, I think maybe they could be cleaned up and retitled to redeem some of the content. I'm happy to see what happens and what other editors have to say. If they're still mostly OR in a week or two, maybe I'll AfD them. If you feel more strongly about it than I do, feel free to AfD them yourself. Now, Mental Gender, on the other hand, is clearly hopeless. -999 (Talk) 19:27, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

If that was the case then you should have just tagged it for cleanup, expand, wikify or something related. A prod is to discuss the deletion. SynergeticMaggot 19:29, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, because I do think they should be deleted, but am happy to have another editor disagree and remove the tag. I see other editors are looking into it and in one case have removed the tag and in others have added additional tags. I think its better to get more opinions but not a strict survey like AfD. It's working out about the way I expected... I like it. It's a good alternative to AfD, a bit softer, doesn't take up space and multiple editor's time like AfD does... -999 (Talk) 19:43, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah but it doesnt always work out. Seeing as how the one that was removed, the reasoning behind it was that it was forked. Yet NOR is policy. So simply saying its forked, wouldnt override polciy in my opinion. SynergeticMaggot 19:49, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Which basically means that they're asking for it to be AfDed. However, since K.V. is already accusing me of a vendetta, I'll let someone else do it :-)... -999 (Talk) 19:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I'll do it at about 8pm my time, which usually means its a fresh day for AfD. I should be the one to do it anyway, since I added the prod2. SynergeticMaggot 19:55, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, there you go, then. Until later... -999 (Talk) 20:00, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I see Hanuman Das beat you to it. Oh, and thanks for the note about WP:AN. Waste of everybodies time if you ask me. Why is it that some editors don't seem to be willing to admit that they might be wrong when half-a-dozen independant editors have pretty much the same opinion of the work or sources or policy or whatnot? -999 (Talk) 14:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Articles Feedback

Thank you for your feedback and I've read it sooo many times. After I read the links you gave me, WP:NN, WP:BIO, and WP:MUSIC and WP:NOR , I reckon that the main issue here is citation, where did I get the info from. As I always did, I put the sources on external links. The problem is, its in Indonesian, as probably you wouldn't understand, so how to solve this problem?

Thanks again and thanks for not deleting it :) Imoeng 10:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah see, if someone sees just a bunch of external links they still wont call it sourced. Try locating anything english pertaining to the artilcle you speak of. Also, if its a person or company/corp or related, you can use that persons main website to cite biographical content. SynergeticMaggot 10:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

But the problem is, I don't use any english language source as the source of information. Only the Dewa Budjana article has the information from his website (on the external links), but I will make the sources part.

One more thing I've done the wikipediholic test :) (what a long test), how can I post the template/userbox with my score? I've tried it but my it says my score is one, actully I scored 2100something. Or is it probably because I did it with the automatic version? Thanks - Imoeng 11:20, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah thats easy. Just steal it from my user page and replace the digits with your own :) SynergeticMaggot 11:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Looking forward to talk to you in the future :) Imoeng 11:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dewa Budjana's references

Could you check it? I've made the references (its pretty hard to learn though) Imoeng 12:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Whoa! Wheres the english on that website? You might want to change that. Other than that you seem to have grasped the idea of citation usage, epecially with the mutiple sytle. Looks good, but english references are needed for english encyclopedias, sorry :/ SynergeticMaggot 12:45, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

Hey, thanks for the barnstar! I'd award you one too, but then K.V. would accuse us of being in a cabal. Maybe later... -999 (Talk) 14:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Pffffft. You worry to much about KV. And no problem. SynergeticMaggot 14:51, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

You're right. He's not nearly as bad as FFL was. At least KV is trying to improve WP...he just sometimes goes about it in a less than optimal manner. Though I guess that could be said about me too. :-) -999 (Talk) 14:54, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Me as well. SynergeticMaggot 14:56, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Statement on Onslaught of Challenges

There are currently challenges made by the same three people, all of whom will recieve this message, on Thoth, Hermeticism, Hermetism, Cult of Hermes, Mental Gender, and Hermeticism and other thought systems all at the same time. Some people actually work for a living and have a life outside of Wikipedia. If you want to make challenges, you are free to do so. But when you know that they are all against the same person, have a little bit of courtesy and challenge them one or two at a time, and allow appropriate time for someone to actually do something about it. I am not a superhuman, and blitzkrieging me with all these challenges at once is unrealistic and shady. Try to have some patience and actually make it possible for me to work with you rather than trying to send me on the defensive and effectively make me leave Wikipedia. If this continues, I will have to make this an issue through RfC, Administrator's noticeboard, or Arbitration Committee. Try to use your time actually find sources to contradict mine if you feel that you have too much free time to wait around for me to be able to act on any given article.

KV(Talk) 16:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I was under the impression that there were more editors of these articles. There is no personal challenge so please do not take it as such. We are helping to improve the article. If you do not have the time to edit Wikipedia, then wait until you do have time. If you feel the need to aquire an RfC, then by all means. And if you wish to bring this to ArbCom, I will be glad to participate. No worries. SynergeticMaggot 16:43, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requests for Support

I happened to look at your contributions (when I get bored, I sometimes look at the contribs of users who most recently edited pages on my watchlist, because their contributions are likely to lead to something I care about) and saw a handful of request for support in a particular discussion, of which this is one example [2]. Requesting support in a discussion is poor form, as per WP:SPAM. Better form is to ask people that would be interested for their opinion. GRBerry 17:34, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm changing the wording per my reply to your talk page. SynergeticMaggot 17:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi there Maggot! I posted to a few well-known WPSS talk pages (Alai & Grutness come to mind) asking for comment. I hope that isn't bad form. Thanks for your support work! ♥ Her Pegship♥ 18:25, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hermeticism pages

If I had more time I would contribute more, but I should be working. The most glaring issue in all of the pages is that clear distinctions are not made between Hermeticism in historical periods and places, and little effort is made to distinguish modern Hermeticism from historical. The second issue is the POV pushing by practitioners and the anti-Christian rhetoric. I'm a scholar of ancient philosophy, particularly late antiquity. I never heard of the Kybalion - then I find it was written in the 20th century. The average person will think it's an ancient hermetic text such as found in the Corpus Hermeticum. Zeusnoos 17:43, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Funny. The Kybalion was the first book I read dealing with Hermeticism. I only took the book to be a rehash, expansion or clarification of old. I'll move on the talk page for changes to be made. Although I wasnt asking for you to contribute to the article, but lend your knowledge on the talk page. Either way, thanks for stopping by :) SynergeticMaggot 17:46, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Red links

SM, typically one does not delete red links on WP, unless they occur because of a deletion. See Wikipedia:Red link. Red links are one way of knowing what articles are most wanted. -999 (Talk) 20:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

When they are that old, I get rid of them. SynergeticMaggot 23:15, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Plus, thats not even a guideline or policy, its not even an essay! SynergeticMaggot 00:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please support

Hi. I'm wondering if you could lend support to a proposal for a Stub-sorting Barnstar. The page is here. Have a good day :) SynergeticMaggot 17:28, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

No such listing. I guess I'm a bit too late. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 22:56, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Content dispute

Well, you know what the admin response is likely to be (I've seen it before) - content dispute, see WP:DR, take it to moderation or ArbCom, BUT GET IT OFF THIS PAGE!!! I'm not even going to bother to reply. It's just a waste of the admins' time. Next he'll be claming me and 999 are your sockpuppets. (It'd have to be that way since he knows you in real life. Sorry chum). —Hanuman Das 02:02, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Theres no way. I make too many typos. Plus theres a checkuser if sockpuppet is claimed. He'd have no evidence of it anyway. :) SynergeticMaggot 02:04, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Clearly, all your typos and grammatical errors are intentional so that you can them clean them up with your socks. I find socks great for cleaning up spills and other accidents. :-) —Hanuman Das 02:08, 28 July 2006 (UTC) p-fffft SynergeticMaggot 16:37, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stub-sorting Barnstar

I would like to lend support for a Stub-sorting Barnstar but I did not see any mentions of it on the page that you linked to on my talk page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:24fan24 (talk • contribs).

Thats because we got the Barnstar passed :) Its not an official Barnstar! Its the last one on this page here: Wikipedia:Wikiproject_awards. SynergeticMaggot 02:09, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I'm just now noticing that you do not have a talk page! SynergeticMaggot 02:10, 28 July 2006 (UTC

I would have lended my support/comment/vote/whatever, but you don't need it, obviously...Cheers. Lectonar 05:27, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Got it well congrats on getting it passed. --24fan24 20:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your Edit to New York State Route 5

For future reference, all New York State route articles are deemed stubs unless they contain the following sections: "Route description", "Towns along the route", "Major intersections" and "References". --TMF ^{T - C} 07:24, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

For future reference, state policy or guideline. Its a matter of opinion what a stub is, and is not. Looked like it wasnt a stub to me, so it was removed. SynergeticMaggot 07:25, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

This goes beyond project standards; this is a matter of encyclopedic (in other words, textual) content. NY 5, when compared to an article such as NY 104 or even NY 153, currently pales in comparison. Personally, I don't consider a lengthy junction table for a route 370-ish miles in length indicative of the length or content value of the article. That's just my view. --TMF ^{T - C} 07:34, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your view. You are more than welcome to re-add the stub tag, although you might want to think more along the lines of adding an expand template instead. Happy editing :) SynergeticMaggot 07:37, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Offending personal information

Sorry, but you shouldn't worry about it, it's nothing to be ashamed of. Circumstance only.KV(Talk) 17:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not ashamed of you putting my personal information on WP:AN. There is a valid reason why I am unemployed, I just moved from Mi, to Pa, and back to Mi. And I'm here to take care of my mother during surgery. You're lucky I don't hold grudges, or else I would have posted you still live with your mother and have never lived on your own. SynergeticMaggot 17:57, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Please avoid this kind of personal information posting. Seriously; we really want to avoid even speculation about the identities of editors. As far as the fuss at WP:AN, I'd also like to encourage you not to use automated tools in content disputes. Regardless, I don't think that there is any administrator action needed; this should be de-escalated through discussion, not through enforcement of policy. WP:RFC is a more suitable venue for getting more community input on the dispute. Jkelly 19:58, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. An RfC was already tried on at least on of the articles already, after a prod to AfD process was being followed. SynergeticMaggot 20:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Geomantic figures

Looks good to me. You probably don't want to know this, so please ignore the next sentence. It really belongs at Geomantic figure. -999 (Talk) 19:52, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

rubs eyes:: Er. My god man. But wait. Its a list of these figures, which makes it plural right? SynergeticMaggot 19:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I think you can get away with it, yes. :-) I'd redirect that incovenient red link to it, though. I remember moving a page, I think it was Nuit to Nut (goddess) or maybe Nuit (Thelema) to Nuit, one of the two, and then discovering just how many links and/or double redirects I had to fix!! Oh my! -999 (Talk) 20:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

The singular one in my first response above. :-) -999 (Talk) 20:32, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Done. I wasnt sure what you meant. SynergeticMaggot 20:36, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Question about OR on Hermeticism and other thought systems

Your question asked "who 'convinced' you" that that article wasn't OR. The question is poorly worded. You may have forgotten that I had previously responded to the RFC on that article. In both an RFC and AFD context, I expect anyone who shows up to do their own research. So I looked at the article, and the talk page (both times) and didn't find evidence that it is OR. You are encouraged to read my response on the AFD as saying that you and the others saying that it is OR have not been persuasive; that is very much why I emphasized the wording "no reason to believe that it is original research".

I read the policy at WP:NOR to have two primary rules. First, the material added to Wikipedia must not be unpublished. The number of citations and references, plus WP:AGF make me believe that the material is previously published. If you were working through this discussion with KV slowly, over a few weeks, testing each item that you object to one by one the WP:AGF portion of that conclusion would be either proven or overcome by the evidence. Second, it must not be a new synthesis to make a point. I can't see what point the article is making, so I can't see how it falls afoul of this rule.

If you want to give me reason to believe that it is OR, you'll have to make clear which of the rules you think it is breaking. If it is the making a point rule, what is the point the article is making? If it is the unpublished material rule, you need to spend more time discussing exactly what is unpublished. GRBerry 03:45, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

I already did this on the talk page. But since you asked, I will do just that. Give me a few minutes or so and I will write it all up. SynergeticMaggot 03:50, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

I've responded on my talk page. GRBerry 05:46, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re : Relisting

I'm not too sure myself, given that there isn't any prominent precedence...Perhaps you may wish to try Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion? - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 08:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Danke. SynergeticMaggot 09:21, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the work on stubsensor

Hi, I wanted to extend my personal thanks for all the work you've put into stub cleanup. Triddle 02:31, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Re double redirects: as far as I know the double redirects are being handled by someone with a bot now. I haven't done a double redirect cleanup project in quite some time; none of the ones listed are active. Triddle 02:36, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Question about stubsensor

To tell you the truth, SynergeticMaggot, I just found the section in the Stubsensor project, and assumed that they were not stubs. I looked over them and found that basically all of them had a short paragraph, yet had a wealth of information in lists or tables. To me, this seems like a pretty good reason to remove the stub tag. However, if you or anyone else finds a good reason to put the tag back on, be my guest. (One thing, I believe List of communities in Quebec is not a stub, because it is essentially what the title says.) As for removing known stubs from the list, i may not be the best person to ask. I believe the home page for this project says to just ignore these (which is what you did). You probably have more experience on this part than I did. Perhaps, though, I should be more cautious about such changes in the future. Thanks for the contact --Canadian Joeldude 05:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hermetic alchemy

Yeah, it's pretty bad too. My inclination is to wait until the current AfDs finish before doing anything about it, though. —Hanuman Das 14:04, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Perfect Matrimony

Do come by and voice your opinion when you have a chance. Paul Stone seems to be threatening a revert war over stating the Crowley taught sexual magic before Samael Aun Weor did... After making the claim that Weor was the first to do so in the 1950s... —Hanuman Das 20:32, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. This bit, "Crowley released most often", reminded me of something I've heard, which is that if the Doctrine of Signatures is true, then the structure and method of the OTO should resemble its secret. That being the case, the secret must be "withhold it as long as you can." —Hanuman Das 22:29, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I dunno. Never read it (Doc of Signatures). Altough the true secrets of the OTO are not really sexual in nature I don't think. I envy 999 for having a copy of Francis X. Kings Secret Rituals of the OTO. I'm waiting for a copy to show up on ebay or amazon under used because that book is not cheap. Who wrote the doc of sig's? SynergeticMaggot 23:33, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Not a book, but an occult principle, the doctrine of signatures. Silly of me not to have linked to it in the first place, this being WP and all. I understand that used copies of King's Secret Rituals book go for $400 to $500 or so. Maybe you could get 999 to photocopy it for you? —Hanuman Das 01:24, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I should give you a Barnstar for humour I'm laughing so hard. I doubt he'd do it, hes a busy guy from what I can tell, but then again I'd want my own copy. But I'll check the link. Thanks. SynergeticMaggot 01:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reignyday

keeps think ing that I am Qho while I am not I Like to Sighn my comment s wit his name. He gave me permison pesronaly by letter. go ask him and he will agree-GeorgeeBoy --70.233.181.36 00:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Can you please explain this. I dont know who you are talking about. SynergeticMaggot 00:47, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] look

User:Reinyday thinks that since I signed my comment using Qhos tag. It means that I am him. Any way I am Close friends with User:Qho. As I said Ask him and find out your-self. Any way User:Reinyday keeps readding that dumb comment on the talk page. Yes I did put down Something Stupid as a Practical joke. but i did that under the IP name. Not Qhos. --70.233.181.36 01:03, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to help you wish this one. You may wish to go to WP:AN and tell them what happened. SynergeticMaggot 01:08, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

For the record, User:70.233.181.36 vandalized my userpage shortly after signing a post as Qho. When I tried to explain that impersonation is a form of vandalism, (s)he reported me[3][4] at WP:AN based on your recommendation. — Reinyday, 10:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Ouch. But thats one way to clear it up. At the time I didnt even know what was going on, and I figured if the user was having that much of a problem, they should inform an admin. I never thought they would actually take it to WP:AN if in fact they really were doing as you say. But now that they did, it would be much easier to file a case, with them starting it out for you. Yet I'll offer an apology though. Sorry. SynergeticMaggot 10:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the apology. I do appreciate it. And thank you for your efforts to be helpful to other users. — Reinyday, 10:56, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Clearing something up

Sorry, but I remain unconvinced by the answers you give. My point about the change of signature was that you'd had several reasonable requests to change it since it clearly was confusing people. You replied: "Well once I decide I'm ready for such a task as adminship or mediation cabal or anything of the like, I'll change it". If there's nothing wrong with it why would you change it? The only reason I could see would be because J.S. had just told you it can count against you on an RfA. In other words you'd change it to avoid critisism on an RfA but not because it was confusing other editors in your regular editing. You're correct about it being in May though - sorry for getting that wrong.

Personally I find WP:BIO to be very clear. It has specific criteria that can be easily applied to any article. The issue is that you were suggesting you could ignore all the guidelines if you want, since they are not policy. While its true that guidelines are intended to carry less weight than policies they are still important parts of what define Wikipedia. As an admin you would be expected to stay within the guidelines and use the tools to enforce the guidelines as appropriate. I remain concerned that you do not understand this or are not willing to follow it. This does not give me confidence that you will use the tools well.

The final episode is the most worrying. I agree that it is not okay for anyone to post personal information about other editors. In fact this is a pretty serious issue. Even if another editor released information about you, that does not give you the right to do the same back to them.

I appreciate you taking the time to discuss this further, but I'm afraid I cannot change my opinion on the AfD yet. Sorry, Gwernol 11:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

With your permission, and per my suggestion on the RfA, I'd like to copy this conversation to the RfA's talk page as I believe it would be useeful for other editors to see it there. Best, Gwernol 11:54, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Permission granted, although I'd like to say, I dont wish this to sway anyones decision. I believe in fairness and balance only (NPOV is more like it). I don't mind that others oppose my RfA, I just dont want any confusion as to why they oppose. They are more experienced than I (I hope :p ), for determining who gets the mop. :) SynergeticMaggot 12:04, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] G.D. tradition

By the way, I left a note on Tmorton's talk page letting him know that it was me who pulled the fast one on Golden Dawn tradition, not you... -999 (Talk) 15:00, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Everyone Poops

As you were the closing admin on a similar AfD, I was hoping you would take a look at the above AfD. PT ^(s-s-s-s) 18:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Its closed now. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. And one more thing, I'm not an admin. If you were refering to the template above, thats a request for adminship. I havent been accepted as an admin yet, but I like to do admin type things on Wikipedia. Have a nice day, and drop by anytime if you see another speedy keep for me :) SynergeticMaggot 18:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I will do so, for sure! Thanks! PT ^(s-s-s-s) 18:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CheckUser

Well, I am behind a NAT server at my employer here which handles a couple thousand people, I think. So my IP address will match some other users. But I'm pretty sure you don't live or work where I do, so let 'er rip, I say... -999 (Talk) 19:51, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Good thank you. From my user page you know I live in Michigan. SynergeticMaggot 19:53, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your RfA

You really are getting a roasting! You seem to be taking it quite well, so keep it up. It's good that your addressing any issues now so they dont hinder any of your future RfAs. If your feeling a bit tense read WP:COOL, that's what I do anyway. :) --Andeh 07:37, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re : an AfD

I endorse the close, all correctly done, no worries. :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 08:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jim Boyd (musician)

Per your request, I've updated with some information regarding his awards. Just letting you know --badlydrawnjeff talk 12:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Done. SynergeticMaggot 14:51, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit]  :)

• It's a long time since I nominated someone, but I thought a mop and bucket will be very userful in your continued contributions to Wikipedia. :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 18:16, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

You need to accept your RfA. It might get removed if you don't. alphaChimp ^laudare 20:13, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I didnt already? Hmph. SynergeticMaggot 20:18, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Good luck with this. Viridae^Talk 23:41, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, and thanks for the support. SynergeticMaggot 23:41, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

No probs. Viridae^Talk 23:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

• Good luck with your RfA! :) - Mailer Diablo 10:37, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm gonna need it. They're tearing me a new one :p SynergeticMaggot 10:38, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Wow, this is unexpected. Of course, you'll have my support... -999 (Talk) 14:40, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

• I'm sorry to see that you had a tougher-than-usual time at your RfA, didn't expect it to turn out like this. I hope that you're feeling well right now despite all these. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 17:13, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Re: Aleister Crowley

Which source are you referring to? --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 21:31, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

• Oh, that! Yeah, I'd say pull it -- especially since the comment about it is purely POV. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 21:43, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Just thought I'd ask your opinion first, before I revert past you. But I'll just remove it. SynergeticMaggot 21:44, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Necromancy Articles

I disagree with the decision to fragment the Necromancy articles (Necromancy, Necromancy (Fiction), Necromancy in popular culture), but either way, strongly feel that the latter two should be combined. I am cleaning/structuring the articles at the moment, but I would like you to consider merging the two (and possibly trying to make them less of lists and more of an analysis.) 66.229.160.94 05:22, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for stopping by to address the issue with me first. The issue at that time, was that the fiction section was a bit long. It still seems kinda long to merge it back. I don't mind merging the fiction and pop culture back, but not to the main one. SynergeticMaggot 05:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IRC

Hi, the HTTP server on Zedler (the toolserver) is currently dead, so toolserver tools like Bjelleklang's pjirc won't work. You can try using a normal IRC client, or finding one on the web. Cheers, Tangotango 03:46, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent response to ZIP codes

I'm new to the website so how will I know if any of my contributions have been nominated for an AfD? -- Goosar19 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Told you so...

Sorry the RFA isn't going so well. :( I think a lot of that oppose would dry up in a month or two. Let me know when your next RFA comes up. (assuming this one ends in fail/no-consensus) ---J.S (t|c) 23:07, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Order of Thelemic Knights

Well you can lead a Wikipedian to water.... Whispering^(talk/c) 23:09, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mariano Anto Bruno Mascarenhas

Given your action concerning the Barbara Schwarz case, I assume you're an admin. Concerning Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mariano Anto Bruno Mascarenhas, it seems the subject of the article has intervened at length in the AfD discussion. I am not sure just how permissible this is, or if the huge speeches he's inserterd are regarded disruptive, but I guess somebody with the powers ought to look into it. --Svartalf 08:01, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] your RfA

Hi SM - with respect, it doesn't look like your RfA will attain consensus. Permit me to suggest that you withdraw your nom and return in the near future, say 3 months. If you chose to keep fighting, you of course have my support. You'll make a great admin, so don't worry about a thing. Cheers, Rama's arrow 17:22, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

No sir, it is only the privilege of others to support you and seek to make you an admin. Just don't let this flag your spirits. Wish you all the best, and do lemme know if I can ever be of assistance. Rama's arrow 21:05, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for expansion

You put a request for expansion on Uriel da Costa, but neither on the talk page nor on Wikipedia:Requests for expansion do you indicate what you feel is missing. - Jmabel | Talk 05:55, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

I just knew someone was going to say something about this. :) The only reason I put the tag on the article was because I was removing about 3 stubs, plus there was a comment above, and I was not sure if someone was going to disaprove of me removing all three stubs. So I replaced it with the expand tag, to show that if whoever put all those stub tags on felt it still needed expansion, then the expand tag was the way to go. Seeing as how its not a stub. I'm supposed to file a request before placing a tag on an article? SynergeticMaggot 06:05, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Not at all. But this particular tag says that that either on the talk page or on Wikipedia:Requests for expansion it gives details of what expansion has been requested. If there's no note in either place, then the tag isn't much use. Almost any article could be expanded, so if it isn't tied to a reasonably specific request, it really doesn't communicate much. - Jmabel | Talk 06:16, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

I appreciate the heads up! Thank you! --Woohookitty^(meow) 09:35, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your RfA

I am sorry to inform you that your Request for Adminship (RfA) has failed to reach sufficient consensus for promotion, and has now been delisted and archived. Please do not look upon this outcome as a discouragement, but rather as an opportunity to improve. Try to address the concerns raised during your RfA and, in a few months' time, resubmit your request. Thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia in this capacity! Redux 20:55, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Will do :) SynergeticMaggot 21:05, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry about the RfA thing, Synergetic, but you were really close there, better luck next time! Take care and cheers! Imoeng 21:18, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

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Betterluck!

Thanks. I will of course be self nom-ing myself. And that just might be in less than 3 months. SynergeticMaggot 21:19, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

• Once again, sorry to hear about the outcome, hopefully you'll be able to make it the next time round! - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 08:24, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AOL Problems

Thought you'd be interested:

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/business/columnists.nsf/techtalk/story/A0F7FD49EFA6565A862571BF006C005A?OpenDocument

[edit] Re: Request

Hello, SynergeticMaggot. Of course I still design userpages, and I'd be more than happy to help out with yours! :) What details or type of layout do you have in mind? Cheers, Sango123 22:14, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

How does it look now? :D Before I create subpages for each section, feel free to change anything or come to me with complaints. ;) I hope you like your new userpage as much as I had fun designing it! Cheers, Sango123 17:32, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the barnstar, SynergeticMaggot! :D I've split your userpage into the following subpages:

• User:SynergeticMaggot/Userpage
• User:SynergeticMaggot/Intro
• User:SynergeticMaggot/About
• User:SynergeticMaggot/Contribs
• User:SynergeticMaggot/Sandboxes
• User:SynergeticMaggot/Opentask
• User:SynergeticMaggot/Accounts
• User:SynergeticMaggot/Userboxes
• User:SynergeticMaggot/Awards

Don't hesitate to contact me if you need anything else. :) Cheers, Sango123 17:54, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Sorry, but I couldn't find an appropriate place for the "This page designed was by Sango123" comment you asked me to add. I'll leave its inclusion up to you, and again, enjoy your new userpage!

Yikes. I wouldnt know how to put anything into the templates. But I will try, as you deserve to be recognized for your work on userpages. :) SynergeticMaggot 18:04, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. :) I'll be here to help if you need it. Sango123 18:18, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks yet again, dear SynergeticMaggot. You're the best! ;) Sango123 23:50, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you!

We've awarded you this PARC research star in recognition for your contribution to research about conflict in Wikipedia. Thank you for your help!!! --Parc wiki researcher 20:58, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much. :) SynergeticMaggot 20:58, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your RfA

Please let me know the next time you submit your RfA - based on what I see, I'll support you. I'm sorry I missed my opportunity this time. Brian 22:32, 10 August 2006 (UTC)btball

I cant exactly do that :) We arent supposed to advertise an RfA. We sort of just have to keep a watch on the main WP:RfA page. But thanks! SynergeticMaggot 22:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Oops, you're right. Well, I'll add you (and RfA) to my watchlist and hope I catch it the next time. Brian 22:37, 10 August 2006 (UTC)btball

Wow. Thanks. SynergeticMaggot 22:37, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I see your RfA has ended, I'm guessing the result wasn't much of a shock to you. But from all the advise/criticism/pointers given, you should be able to make yourself a "can't believe he's not an admin already! user ;).--Andeh 00:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Uhh, I meant you can respond to the things given in your RfA so they aren't reasons to oppose any future RfA of yours. Where'd you get the idea of making a sock come from!?--Andeh 00:49, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, from this part of your comment: you should be able to make yourself a can't believe he's not an admin already! user. Which is why I asked for clarification. SynergeticMaggot 00:51, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Personal attacks...

I'm still super confused about what that guy thought was a personal attack. And why do people hate maggots so much? They are super important to the ecosystem! People just hate the non fuzzy animals. The ugly ones don't get the respect they deserve. Good luck on your next RFA, I'll be keeping watch for it! ---J.S (t|c) 22:46, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I didnt understand that either. Stubbleboy was confused in thinking I was attacking him/her. I've been in much worse debates, and I never brought up "dont bite the newcommer" (I'm still new too!). That was kinda weak. SynergeticMaggot 22:51, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your rfa

Thanks for your Note :) Dlohcierekim 22:51, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD Project

Hi SynergeticMaggot, when you come across pages that are _already done_, then subst them. That's why they're in the list, cuz they're not subst'd. Subst'ing is the correct way to do it, so please either add the box using the {{afdoldfull}} template, or subst it. There are some times where you'll look and it's already subst'd, that's fine. Most likely just a bug. Thanks for helping out on Wikiproject AfD Closing. --Deon555|talk|e|Review Me! :D 00:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh ok sorry :) --Deon555|talk|e|Review Me! :D 01:18, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I dont think we are doing the subst thing anymore. And its ok, no need to be sorry. SynergeticMaggot 01:20, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I heard >:O and i've already subst'd like 2-300 templates :P. :) --Deon555|talk|e|Review Me! :D 01:26, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: MedCabal case

Thanks for letting me know, you were right to close that case off. —Xyrael

[edit] Re Daniel Brandt

That's silly! lol! -- FayssalF - aka Szvest 01:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC) (blacklisted on Brandt's infamous list).

Thanks for the close. I've heard enough to know what you mean though :) SynergeticMaggot 01:40, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks

Thanks so much for voting, SynergeticMaggot! Thanks so much for your support vote on my request for adminship! With a final vote count of (82/5/0), it succeeded, and I'm now an administrator! I am thrilled with the overwhelming positive support from the community, and sincerely thank you once again for taking your time to voice your opinion. Feel free to contact me with any comments/suggestions in the future! —Mets501 (talk) 03:52, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] stubsensor cleanup project is back

Howdy, I'm just letting you know that stubsensor is back with the most current dump file. The cleanup project is at Wikipedia:Computer help desk/cleanup/stubsensor/20060810. Thanks for your help from the last time! Triddle 00:49, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Kenneth Grant

If you don't have Kenneth Grant on your watchlist, could you add it? I just rewrote the whole thing and expect it to be attacked from multiple directions :-) -999 (Talk) 18:16, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sex magic

An article that needs some real work is Sex magic, especially the section titled Aleister Crowley, which should be trashed and started over. Unfortunately, I'm not comfortable bringing my reference works on the topic to work :-( Any help you could bring to the article would be appreciated... -999 (Talk) 19:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I'll look into it. I should have some things to include. Although I hadnt had the time. SynergeticMaggot 19:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ramsquire's RfA

I meant confusing as in "Gee, why is Ramsquire opposing his own RfA" and not "SynergeticMaggot's comment is crazy". BryanG^(talk) 22:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Hahaha. Sorry :) I thought for there you were taking issue with my reason. Best wishes. SynergeticMaggot 22:37, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I hope this is not a breach of etiquette, and if so, I apologize. I appreciate your comment and realize that I may not have done much actual editing of articles, but I have been very active on the talk pages on several articles, as well as user talk pages, attempting to reach consensus before supplying edits. Often times another user will make the agreeable edits. I hope that this doesn't hurt my chance to become an admin. Ramsquire 23:01, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I assume that to withdraw, I just have to delete the entry from the RfA page. I must admit that I am very disappointed though. I didn't realize that quantity would matter so much more than quality. Oh well, I'll try again in a few months, maybe. Ramsquire 23:30, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of basic management topics

I am a bit disappointed that this was closed early. This is not an article, and not a good list. It satisfies the criterion for speedy deletion WP:CSD#A3, but I won't tag it as such because I am not a complete bastard. If people can't even write a one-line introduction, they shouldn't submit work in progress to article space at all. Thank you, Kusma (討論) 09:39, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

You can go ahead and do what you like, overturn by all means. I felt it was time to close it, so I did. It doesnt meet CSD#A3 by the way, or else it would have been deleted already, obviously. While there is very little content, it doesnt mean there is no content whatsoever. SynergeticMaggot 09:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

"Any article consisting only of links elsewhere" well that's what it is, an A3 (and possibly an A1 as the list is pretty incomprehensible and doesn't have any obvious ordering that would put the links into context). No text at all (not a single sentence), only links. Not all speediable articles get deleted, as you see here. I don't think that having the word "list" in the title automatically disqualifies an article from deletion by A3. Kusma (討論) 09:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

To continue ranting, I actually don't want this article deleted, I only want to use the threat of deletion to force somebody to write an introduction by August 20, but people in this AfD don't seem to realize that {{subst:afd}} is (among other things) the more efficient version of {{cleanup}}... Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 10:03, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Not all editors will agree with that. I dont really think the article is needed personally, but I didnt use a pov to close, only what I saw from the discussion. CSD#A3 isnt 100% clear, I had thought it meant the "what links here". I'd also like to note that the AfD was in fact too fast, at 3 seconds after the page was created. Not enough time to tell in my opinion. Should have been prodded first. And CSD#A1 wouldnt hold up either per the second sentence Limited content is not in itself a reason to delete if there is enough context to allow expansion. And everyone was calling for expansion. You have your intro now also. SynergeticMaggot 10:23, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, three seconds is too fast. I wish people would do new page patrol by checking the oldest of the newest 500 pages first, not the most recent ones - those only need to be monitored for attack pages, everything else should wait. Thanks for adding the intro; the list is IMHO still useless, but I will shut up now. Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 10:58, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD closing

Hi, I've noticed you've closed a lot of AfDs recently. Can you just be sure that, in the event you're closing AfDs early, they actually meet the speedy keep criteria? Otherwise, we shouldn't be closing them early. Thanks! --badlydrawnjeff talk 11:03, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Which AfD's are you talking about? I'm not stranger to closing them, so if you are taking an issue over one of the ones I've closed in the last 12 hours or so, you should really let me know which ones you're referring to. As far as I recall, I closed a few SNOW AfD's, withdraw of noms, and maybe one or two speedy keeps. SynergeticMaggot 17:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I didn't keep track of 'em all, but pretty much none of the ones that you speedy kept met the criteria, and you shouldn't be closing anything per WP:SNOW. --badlydrawnjeff talk 21:49, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Like I asked, which one are you referring to? The majority were kept as Keep, not speedy keep. And there were good reasons to keep, so if you disagree, relist. SynergeticMaggot 00:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, I'd appreciate it if you didnt tell me what I should or shouldnt be doing. It was my call, and if I'm wrong, an admin will address the matter to me, and overturn. Regards. SynergeticMaggot 00:36, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

No, I'll be glad to tell you if you're doing things incorrectly, and I'd expect the same from you. As for the ones you've closed incorrectly recently, they're here, here, here, here, and here. And those are just the ones I've found right now. Please be aware of it. --badlydrawnjeff talk 01:16, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

None of those were done incorrectly. All were keeps. SynergeticMaggot 03:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

No, they were done incorrectly. None of them met a single speedy keep criteria, and yet you closed them ahead of time. I even recall seeing one this morning that you closed multiple days ahead of time, even though it lacked a speedy keep rationale. Please be aware of this. --badlydrawnjeff talk 03:21, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I disagree with Badlydrawnjeff, all of those articles he linked to were obvious keeps. Dionyseus 04:07, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm not really sure what the overall issue is here still, but the diffs he gave were, as far as I can tell, closed after 4 days, with no valid reason to delete.

Badlydrawnjeff: If you notice on all of the closes, they are closed as Keep, not as speedy keep. Others, like myself, close these obvious keeps because there is no sense in letting them drag on. Admins have enough to do, like closing AfD's that are controversial and complex. Just out of curiosity, how many AfD's have you closed? SynergeticMaggot 04:43, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

You closed them early. They provided no evidence as to why they should be closed early, and they're supposed to go 5 days if they don't meet a speedy criteria. I don't think non-admins should be closing AfDs, so I don't close them, but you're not doing much in the way of being constructive when you close them early. Here, I found two more from my observations today: here, and here. These didn't even go for a day! Please stop closing AfDs early, or consider not closing them at all. --badlydrawnjeff talk 11:04, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't see a problem here either. I believe it is normal to close AfDs in which there is a supermajority of keep votes quickly. I don't see why it matters whether it's done by an admin or non-admin. I do tend to have concerns about non-admins attempting to tell other editors what to do, though... —Hanuman Das 13:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry you don't see the problem with it. It isn't normal given the deletion policy. If you have concerns with me pointing out these problems, though, by all means let me know. I can't in good conscience stop, however, because it's important that we follow the general processes when it comes to these issues. --badlydrawnjeff talk 13:40, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for addressing your opinions to me. I will take notice before closing another AfD. Although, I will continue to close them by my usual method. I hope this satisfies you. Regards. SynergeticMaggot 20:00, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User page in main namespace

I noticed you have Category:Thelema on your user page. I thought it worth noting that, according to Wikipedia:Categorization#User namespace, "Users should not add their user pages to article namespace categories such as Category:People or other subcategories, Category:Biologists etc, which are reserved for pages in the article namespace." Under the new Wikipedia:User categorization scheme, all user-page categories should be subcategories of Category:Wikipedians. I know you've been around a while, but since this is relatively new I thought maybe you missed it—it's not exactly made prominent either. And I am not quite bold enough to edit someone else's user page. ;-) --Geoff Capp 00:55, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. BTW, Category:WikiProject Thelema Members & Category:Heterosexual Wikipedians are entirely appropriate, assuming you wish to be categorized that way. --Geoff Capp 04:00, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Nah. I got rid of one of the user boxes already and I think those were leftovers from when I had Sango123 do my user page. SynergeticMaggot 04:47, 18 August 2006 (UTC)