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The current article text indicates that White doesn't have an advantage after

4. Bf4 Nc6
5. Nf3 Bb4+
6. Nc3 Qe7
7. Qd5!?

which seems reasonable. But why wouldn't White play

7. Qb3!
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Certainly that seems better than the supposed mainline

6. Nbd2 Qe7
7. a3 Ngxe5
8. Bxe5 Nxe5
9, e3

because after

9, ... Bxd2+
10. Qxd2 Nxf3+
11. gxf3

things seem pretty even

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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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AmericanJeffBowden 08:37, 3 December 2006 (UTC)



SyG 19:16, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree with you. After 6.Nc3 the best for Black is to play immediately 6...BxNc3+, otherwise White gets the opportunity to avoid the doubling of its pawns with 7.Qb3 or 7.Qc2. I would suggest to replace 6...Qe7 by 6...BxNc3+, what do you think ?

Huh, that is very interesting. Somehow I have never seen 7.Qb3, and I own and have looked through two books on the Budapest. ECO likes 7.Qb3 and says it favors White. ECO also likes the similarly intentioned 7.Rc1, as does MCO-14 (which doesn't mention 7.Qb3). Both ECO and MCO-14 recommend 6..Bxc3+ immediately (as SyG suggests) so as not to allow White to keep his pawns intact. I will modify the article accordingly.

AmericanJeffBowden, in the Nbd2 line, White never plays Bxe5. He plays Nxe5, keeping the bishop pair and not allowing Black to double White's f-pawns, as in the line you gave. Krakatoa 06:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

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