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Welcome here! Drbug 18:17, 27 Nov 2003 (UTC)

You can leave me a message, clicking here or arrow in my signature.  Dr Bug 

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Contents 1 Kosovo and Metohija 2 Ruthenia / Rus' 3 Lvov/Lwów/Lviv/Lemberg/Leopolis 4 Ruthenia 5 historyofnations-.-net spam 6 Theodosius Dobzhansky 7 Warsaw Uprising 8 Tatar letters. 9 'Nationalist vandalism' 9.1 О слове "россиянин". 10 Tatar Cyrillic 11 îïÿòü ñëàâÿíå âñ¸ íàïóòàëè 8*) 12 Didn't mean to offend you 13 Comrade Vladimir! 14 Eastern Front 15 User:Genyo 16 Ezhiki 17 Talk on Russian History, 1682-1796 18 Translit 19 Historical administrative division of Russia 20 Translation request 21 Trofim Lysenko 22 Join RWNB!! 23 Welcome back! 24 Join the RCOTW! 25 Article Licensing 26 Village pump 27 Ruotsi, Rootsi 28 Обращение от прессы 29 legacy of imperial russian society and poltics 30 American radio show about wikipedia 31 Image deletion 32 Image:151Gruzija2004.png listed for deletion 33 Great work 34 Cut-and-paste moves 35 Image:Ichkerian flag.png listed for deletion 36 О незаконных блокировках в русском секторе 37 "Мёртвые Души" 38 Список тоталитарных сект 39 Интервью для газеты "Новые Известия" 40 Soulbot 41 Welcome back 42 Wikipedia:Russian History Harmonization 43 По поводу одних событий 44 О проверенных и отрецензированных статьях 45 Anti-Serbian bias 46 Attractive Russian WP-women 47 Image copyright problem with Image:VavilovNI.jpg 48 Move 49 Happy New Year! 50 Tatar to Russian and/or English translation 51 Map of the federal subjects 52 WPW newsletter

[edit] Kosovo and Metohija

Just a small notice: Kosovo and Metohija are not plateaus but basins. Nikola 17:19, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

• Ok. Drbug

[edit] Ruthenia / Rus'

You recently made massive edits to Ruthenia, with no discussion on the talk page & a change comment telling people to see a non-existent article. I don't want to get into an edit war, but this is no way to deal with an article that has already been noted as controversial. Would you please explain on the talk page what you are doing and where (if anywhere) you have moved the bulk of the article? -- Jmabel 22:03, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)

• Answer in Jmabel's page. Short: explained Russian History Harmonisation. Also, I have added a comment to the Ruthenia discussion page. Drbug 22:12, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Lvov/Lwów/Lviv/Lemberg/Leopolis

As to the Russian name: why do you think it's important? As Space Cadet said: the city belonged to Russia only for a few months during the World War I. Even after the World War II the Soviets kept the puppet Ukraine alive and the city name was officially Ukrainian. So in my opinion the Russian name is not more relevant than Swaheli or Spanish names - it's just a name used in a foreign country that did not even have a minority there, not to mention any control over the city whatsoever. Check the history section for more details. Halibutt 17:13, Jun 13, 2004 (UTC)

• Ans. in Halibutt's and Lviv's pages. Short: yes, Russian name was the official and therefore no less relevant than Polish or German. Drbug 16:49, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Ruthenia

Just wanted to say "hi". ;)

"I don't think use of word "Russian" may be derogatory for any valuable quantity of Ukrainians, BelAruSians, and Poles. What is really derogatory - attempt to diminish value of Russian history by inventing unnatural words - and I suppose, derogatory not only for modern Russians. (By the way, I'm 75% Modern Slavic Russian and 25% Modern BelAruSian). I'd propose to wait until any Ukrainian or BelAruSian will object to use adjective Russian for ancient Rus."

You got one vote from me. I do find the wording derogatory. There should be a clear difference between "рускі" (Ruthenian) and "расейскі" (Russian). We do have this in Belarusan. Best regards! :) rydel 14:26, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I'm happy to say you "hello" in return! :-)

Thank you for your vote!

Your participation should make the Wikipedia even better! However, I regret to say that I'm a bit concerned by your biased approach to analysing historical documents...

And also I'd like to ask you to keep in mind that it is English Wikipedia... By the way, wouldn't you participate be.wikipedia.org?

[[User:Drbug| Dr Bug ]] 21:34, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Well, I am just a newbie, and I don't know what's going on here, but it seems there isn't enough interest in Belarusan Wikipedia yet to warrant a separate be.wikipedia.org in our language. Maybe later when there will be more people interested in that. As for the bias I would like to you to explain that. I don't see where I was biased by deleting the word "separated." In any case, if Ruthenia is such a controversial item, I will just "unwatch" it and forget about all that. Although I would feel a bit bad that Stalin's and imperial Russian propaganda would prevail over facts in this open source encyclopedia. - rydel 22:15, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC).

Welcome! Your opinion is always welcome too, and it doens't matter that it is different. As for "separation", I don't disagree to remove it for that article - I don't think that possible unity does really matter in context of the article. I rather mention bias in your comments in the talk page... [[User:Drbug| Dr Bug ]] 23:33, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] historyofnations-.-net spam

historyofnations-.-net copies wikipedia content. The link is an old copy of History of Haiti (both of which are from public domain texts originally IIRC). I've removed dozens of similar links added with the misleading edit summary of 'adding internal link'. Maximus Rex 10:19, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

• Right! Dr Bug

[edit] Theodosius Dobzhansky

Hi, can you have a look at this guy's name. He was a Ukrainian, apparently born "Feodosy Grigorevich Dobrzhansky", also I've also seen it as Dobzhanskii, but can we have cyrillic script, and perhaps out of interest do you have the answer?

• Done! [[User:Drbug| Dr Bug ]] 16:19, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Warsaw Uprising

I'm sorry, but I don't really get your point. I set up that page to ease the effort of several fellow wikipedians. It's not supposed to be anything but a place to correct the article before it is copyedited to where it should be (Warsaw Uprising). This way we can avoid stressing editing conflicts and it's easier to work if a framework is set. Otherwise, we'd have to create several empty sections in the Warsaw Uprising article and then fill them up with content. This would be much harder and would take much more time. Also, an average passer-by would get an impression that wikipedia is a place where unfinished or not-yet-ready articles with lots of typos and mistakes are accepted. Halibutt 15:50, Jul 31, 2004 (UTC)

• Ans. in Halibutt's page. Short: The main problem is loss of editing history (it is violations of the GFDL, BTW), and also there are many other minor problems. However, I don't oppose Halibutt's actions. Dr Bug (Volodymyr V. Medeiko) 20:45, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)

In this very case I don't see a huge problem since we basically incorporated all the previous work in our new project. Perhaps it isn't clearly visible in the history ([1]), but that is because we made lots of corrections, both factual and grammatical. But just compare the content of the extended version with earlier versions - parts are almost unchanged, only their place in the article structure changed. We didn't break the edit history chain, all previous edits are still there. Unfortunately, we couldn't avoid changing their place so all previous edits are marked in red in the history section - but that is due to wiki software. Nothing can be done about it and the outcome would be practically the same if each one of us prepared his own part and then placed it at Warsaw Uprising. The only difference for the final user would be that instead of one place in history where the new version was inserted there would be three consecutive edits. Not really much of a difference. If you think that it might violate the GFDL in some way I could ask the other three contributors who prepared the present version what do they think or place a piece of info in the history informing a nitpicker that parts of the article history are at User:Halibutt/Warsaw Uprising.

Also, I don't really see other choice but to set up a temporary project page for the new project. Not only does it ease the work but also prevents common wikipedia users (as opposed to contributors who are notified about the project both in the main body of the old article and in the discussion) from encountering an unfinished version.

I know that the very idea of wiki is that no article is ever finished. However, we decided to prepare a complete article in short time, with a team of fellow wikipedians devoted solely to finishing the article as soon as possible. In this case both the way of editing the article and adding new content was different from the ussual "I'll add a sentence here, someone other adds a sentence there" stuff. Thanks to the project idea we could add new info without really caring to finish it before we save our work. That really helps. Halibutt 09:54, Aug 3, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Tatar letters.

Just for me myself.

А = A а = a Б = B б = b В = V в = v Г = Ğ г = ğ Д = D д = d Е = E е = e Ё = E ё = e Ж = J ж = j З = Z з = z И = İ и = i Й = Y й = y К = Q к = q Л = L л = l М = M м = m Н = N н = n О = O о = o П = P п = p Р = R р = r С = S с = s Т = T т = t У = U у = u Ф = F ф = f Х = X х = x Ц = Ç ц = ç Ч = Ç ч = ç Ш = Ş ш = ş Щ = Ş щ = ş Ъ = ъ = Ы = I ы = ı Ь = ь = Э = E э = e Ю = Yu ю = yu Я = Ya я = ya Ә = Ä ә = ä Ң = Ñ ң = ñ Ө = Ö ө = ö Ү = Ü ү = ü Җ = C җ = c Һ = H һ = h Qä = Kä qä = kä Äq = Äk äq = äk Qü = Kü qü = kü Üq = Ük äq = ük Qö = Kö qö = kö Öq = Ök öq = ök Ğä = Gä ğä = gä Äğ = Äg äğ = äg Ğü = Gü ğü = gü Üğ = Üg üğ = üg Ğö = Gö ğö = gö Öğ = Ög öğ = ög

[edit] 'Nationalist vandalism'

Çäðàâñòâóéòå!

 ñòàòüå Tatarstan âûäåðæêà èç êîíñòèòóöèè Òàòàðñòàíà â ñàìîì íà÷àëå íèêàêàÿ íè ñåïàðàòèñòñêàÿ, à íûíåøíÿÿ êîíñòèòóöèÿ , ïðèçíàíàÿ Ðîññèåé. Òåì áîëåå, ÷òî "äîëæíà áûòü âûñëóøàíà è äðóãàÿ ñòîðîíà": èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî "óíèòàðíî-ôåäåðàëèñòñêàÿ" òî÷êà çðåíèÿ íå åñòü åäèíñòâåííî ïðàâèëüíîå ìíåíèå. Ïðîîøó íå ïðàâèòü áîëåå äàííóþ öèòàòó.

--Untifler 20:25, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

çû. ñ òàòàðñêèìè áóêâàìè íàìóäðèëè - ñì ru:Òàòàðñêèé àëôàâèò

• Decoded:

Здравствуйте!

В статье http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatarstan выдержка из конституции Татарстана в самом начале никакая ни сепаратистская, а нынешняя конституция , признаная Россией. Тем более, что "должна быть выслушана и другая сторона": исключительно "унитарно-федералистская" точка зрения не есть единственно правильное мнение. Проошу не править более данную цитату.

зы. с татарскими буквами намудрили - см http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D2%E0%F2%E0%F0%F1%EA%E8%E9_%E0%EB%F4%E0%E2%E8%F2

• Ans. in User_talk:Untifler (ru). Short: 1. Sorry! 2. Reworded. 3. Idel-Ural question. Dr Bug (Volodymyr V. Medeiko) 21:32, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] О слове "россиянин".

Простите, это слово использовали Карамзин и Ломоносов, причем оба в значении государственном, нежели (выражаясь современным языком) "национальнoм". Вы не правы, хотя Ваше мнение -- широко распространенное. Forgive me, but you are wrong in saying the word "Rossijanin" as used in the Russians article is newly invented: it was used by Karamzin and Lomonosov in referring to matters of state rather than (in modern terms) "ethnic" belonging. Your opinion is, however, widespread. A. Shetsen 05:36, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Не за что. Спасибо Вам. A. Shetsen 06:24, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

• Ans. in User_talk:A. Shetsen. Short: Thanks! I was mistaken. Dr Bug (Volodymyr V. Medeiko) 06:34, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Tatar Cyrillic

Владимир! В заголовке в статье "Татарский алфавит" вы указали неверные сведения - правильный кириллический алфавит см в разделе "История письма". Стоит ли помещать кириллицу вперёд латиницы в статье? В интернете латиница используется активнее. Хамза обозначалась не апострофом (его вообще не было)- а буквами э, ъ, ь.

--Untifler 17:46, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] îïÿòü ñëàâÿíå âñ¸ íàïóòàëè 8*)

Âëàäèìèð, çäðàâñòâóéòå! Âû ïîëíîñòüþ óäàëèëè ñòàòüþ Idel-Ural, äàæå âèäèìî íå ïîïûòàâøèñü îòäåëèòü "íàöèîíàëèçì" îò ïðàâäû. Êàê ïî-âàøåìó, ìîæåò áûòü ñòîèò âîçðîäèòü ñòàòüþ, ñ ïîìåòêàìè â å¸ íà÷àëå: "Ñîäåðæèò ýëåìåíòû ïðîïàãàíäû", íî ïðè ýòîì îñíîâíóþ ÷àñòü èíôîðìàöèè ïåðåäàòü. Òîò æå îãðûçîê, ÷òî ñåé÷àñ åñòü - òÿíåò íà ñòàá. Ê òîìó æå òàì åñòü ôðàçà "âîçðîäèòü Çîëîòóþ Îðäó". Íî ýòî íå åñòü ïðàâäà - áûëà ïîïûòêà ñîçäàòü ðåñïóáëèêó â ãðàíèöàõ Êàçàíñêîãî õàíñòâà, íà ñòåïè Îðäû Èäåëü-Óðàë íå ïðåòåíäîâàë. Õîòÿ â ýòèõ-òî âîïðîñàõ, ïî-ìîåìó, êðîìå òàòàð íèêòî íå ðàçáèðàåòñÿ...

Ïîðàáîòàéòå ïî ñîâåñòè - èçâëåêèòå èìåíà ïðåçèäåíòà, äàííûå îá ýòíãè÷åñêîì ñîñòàâå (îíè íå ïðèäóìàíû - ýòî äàííûå ïåðåïèñè). Ìîæåò è õîðîøàÿ ñòàòüÿ ïîëó÷èòñÿ. Êñòàòè, Èäåëü-Óðàë ýòî åù¸ è êíèãà ïàíòþðêèñòà Ãàÿçà Èñõàêè (Ğayaz Ísxaqí).

--Untifler 20:59, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

• DECODED:

опять славяне всё напутали 8*)

Владимир, здравствуйте! Вы полностью удалили статью <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idel-Ural" title="Idel-Ural">Idel-Ural</a>, даже видимо не попытавшись отделить "национализм" от правды. Как по-вашему, может быть стоит возродить статью, с пометками в её начале: "Содержит элементы пропаганды", но при этом основную часть информации передать. Тот же огрызок, что сейчас есть - тянет на стаб. К тому же там есть фраза "возродить Золотую Орду". Но это не есть правда - была попытка создать республику в границах Казанского ханства, на степи Орды Идель-Урал не претендовал. Хотя в этих-то вопросах, по-моему, кроме татар никто не разбирается...

Поработайте по совести - извлеките имена президента, данные об этнгическом составе (они не придуманы - это данные переписи). Может и хорошая статья получится. Кстати, Идель-Урал это ещё и книга пантюркиста Гаяза Исхаки (Ğayaz Нsxaqн).

--<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Untifler" title="User:Untifler">Untifler</a> 20:59, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Ans. in User:Untifler Short: Copyvio. I will expand the article later. Dr Bug (Volodymyr V. Medeiko) 21:44, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Didn't mean to offend you

Sorry for changing your user page, Drbug. I added there ("To Do" section) a neutral statement fully applicable to the Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines. Citing:

• to stop adding propagandist statements justified only by claims like "I know about Russia/Soviet Union much more than average wikipedian".

I didn't mean that DrBug himself does so. If DrBug agrees with this goal, he would surely confirm it here. And he will definitely forgive my impulsive emotional act (not a vandalism). My apologies again. AlexPU

I see that your intentions are noble, but your choice of words was poor. You probably meant to prevent people from adding propagandist statements justified only by claims like "I know about Russia/Soviet Union much more than average wikipedian".? Nikola 07:52, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I meant what I wrote because "to do" is probably made for other Wikipedians who read DRbug's page. And some of them, particularly Monedula, continuously push propaganda-type items and delete more neutral statements. For them my writing was. And BTW, I doubt we should "prevent" somebody from adding something in Wikipedia. It would be a gift for those confusing free encyclopedia with a Kremlin propagandist site.AlexPU

[edit] Comrade Vladimir!

Comrade Vladimir! Growing up in the Soviet Union, you have beeen propagandized more that most people in the free world, where there was at least a competition of ideas. Your vision is distorted by both an anti-soul socialism and a totalitarian Russian imperialism whose fulfillment requires the killing of millions, even to the point of genocide. Your vandalizing of Alex's contribution to this page only furthers your denial. This page is not yours--it's ABOUT you. If it were yours, you'd be the only person with access! Wikipedia is a chance to broaden knowledge--which doesn't work when someone's mind is closed.

I know it can be difficult to find out you were lied to in basic allegiances from childhood. But get over the hump--on the other side is the lush valley of freedom, where you CAN, with work and discernment, find truth! Genyo 21:25, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

• Ans.: Funny! However, ignored. Dr Bug (Volodymyr V. Medeiko) 06:18, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Eastern Front

Hi Vladimir, We've recently started work on World_War_II_wikireader and I’ve noticed there is a great lack of articles and content covering the Eastern Front of the World War II. Now since you are Russian, would you care in helping out a bit, especially with the articles on Soviet Union's military and political leaders. GeneralPatton 18:56, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

• Ans. in User_talk:GeneralPatton. Short: thanks, I will participate! Dr Bug (Volodymyr V. Medeiko) 06:14, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Well, that's great, we need more people with a more European view of WWII. especially considering how important the Eastern Front was. GeneralPatton 16:25, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] User:Genyo

You know, Genyo can sometimes be some sort of a pest. All I'm asking you for is to provide some documentation to him that what he claims to be the truth is actually artificial, since you probably know a lot more than me in that field. It'll give him a taste of his own medicine. Marcus2 13:51, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Marcus, thank you for your noble entry adding support to my request. Vladimir/Volodymyr, could you tell us more about your Shelukhin and Polish fabrication theories? Genyo 14:42, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

• Ans. in User_talk:Marcus2. Short: Thanks, of course, but after WWII Wikireader. Dr Bug (Volodymyr V. Medeiko) 18:26, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Marcus, you definitely have something to do with medicine, alcohol and so forth (as I found out from your user page):)). Making such risky judgements on your fellow Wikipedians as "pest", you should expect something similar in responce. If you want to offend Genyo personally, please do it by E-mail or do not at all. Follow my example: I would like to characterize some of DrBug's allies with so many taboo words that you'll never learn them in such quantity. But I don't.

Despite your opinion on Genyo, what he claims is usually truth (may be presented emotionally). And believe me, Dr.Medeiko has nothing to provide for opposite. Except casuistic support for more straightforward propagandists like Monedula.

And also, Marcus, If you're interested in Russian/Soviet history, DO NOT RELY ON DOCUMENTATION HEAVILY. The only reliable here sometimes could be those stolen or lost. Please understand that Russia (Ukraine as well) is not like New York state. It's a pretty different civilization (agree, Mr. Medeiko?) of Byzantine origin. Documents here are issued not for fixing the reality, but mostly for distorting it (like hiding crimes or falsing somebody's guilt). You just can't imagine the life here. We, Dr.Bug and I, live here and realize this (but he's too ashamed to admit). I strongly recommend you to visit Russia (Ukraine, Belarus so forth). Your vision of life would broaden a lot.AlexPU

[edit] Ezhiki

Dear David,

sorry, did you really intended to oppose Ezhiki or there's just a kind of error? Dr Bug (Volodymyr V. Medeiko) 18:13, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Oops, of course I didn't intend to oppose (as my comment showed). Don't know how that happened. :-). I moved my vote. David Remahl 18:19, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

• Ans. in User_talk:Chmod007. Short: Great! Dr Bug (Volodymyr V. Medeiko) 18:29, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Talk on Russian History, 1682-1796

Just to let you know, I've made a statement of support to your excellent list of quotes from Alexei's correspondence. A. Shetsen 06:01, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Translit

Hi, Vladimir! Could you, please, take a look at Talk:Transliteration of Russian into English? I know this is probably outside of the fields of your interests, but if you could review it and (maybe) add some comments, that would be very much appreciated. No pressure, though :)

And, oh, thanks for supporting me as an admin candidature!--Ëzhiki (erinaceus europeaus) 15:15, Aug 26, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Historical administrative division of Russia

Hi, Vladimir! I've just started a new series of articles (History of the administrative division of Russia) and am wondering if you could review (and possibly monitor) them, as you are clearly more knowledgeable about the history of Russia than I am. I am somewhat concerned about the names of regions and places in English, especially those located around the borders of Russia and Ukraine. I am trying my best to find the most accurate English equivalents, but you surely have more information on them since you work on Russian-Ukrainian issues so much. There is not much to check so far, but I have tons of information on the topic, and a lot of it covers the territory of modern-day Ukraine, so there will definitely be major inaccuracies in translation on my part in future. Thanks!--Ëzhiki (erinaceus europeaus) 18:48, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Translation request

Hi Drbug, I come here because you listed your name on the Embassy. I ask you a help on translation from English into Russian. Would you like to help me to do translation of a brief note? It makes of only five lines, announcement of Mediawiki Foundation Newsletter. You can see it on m:Wikimedia Quarto/Annc. The newsletter itself is on m:Translation requests/NL-1/En:; regretfully there is no translator of Russion - if you would like to join in translators on meta or organize Russian translators, I would be very happy. --Aphaea 07:19, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Trofim Lysenko

Could you add the Cyrillic script of Trofim Denisovich Lysenko to Trofim Lysenko please? Dunc_Harris|☺ 16:37, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Vladimir, since you seem to be away, I took care of this.—Ëzhiki (erinaceus europeaus) 18:54, Oct 12, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Join RWNB!!

Hello!

I see from your contributions that you are interested in Russian topics. Perhaps you would like to join the new Russian wikipedians' notice board? It is a discussion forum for wikipedians interested in all things Russian. Also, each week we pick an unfinished stub article to improve through collaboration.

Russian Collaboration of the Week

Every week, a lacking Russian topic is picked to be the Russian Collaboration of the Week. The current RCOTW is Vostochny.

Notice boards and Collaborations-Of-The-Week have become increasingly popular on wikipedia reciently, with Irish, British, US and many more. There is also a score board for competing collaborations! See FAC.

Isn't it about time we got articles on Russia up to standard?

Hope to see you on RWNB!

Seabhcán 12:14, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome back!

Welcome back, Vladimir! For a while there I thought you left us for good, but it's nice to see you are back.—Ëzhiki (erinaceus europeaus) 02:21, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Join the RCOTW!

Hello, Dr.Bug! Have you heard about the Russian wikipedians' notice board? Please, come check it out and let your friends know, too! KNewman 04:23, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

No can hear you! Mikkalai 17:24, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

• Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
• Multi-Licensing Guide
• Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

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OR

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

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Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

[edit] Village pump

Could you please see Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Politically_motivated_entry.28ies.3F.29_in_Russian, especially my remark at about an equivalent of WP:VP on the Russian Wikipedia? -- Jmabel | Talk 20:14, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Ruotsi, Rootsi

I wonder if you are aware that some scholars claim that Rus' derives from "ruotsi" or "rootsi".

Ruotsi is "Sweden" in modern Finnish. "Rootsi" is "Sweden" in modern Estonian, this is also an adjective.

By the way, in modern Estonian "Russians" are not Rus' or Rossiya-related, but "venelased", or "people of vene" (compare to veneds of Romans), Russia is Venemaa, the Land of Vene. Similar is true also in Finnish language, where "russians" or "rus'" do not exist.

[edit] Обращение от прессы

Уважаемый Drbug!

Вас беспокоит интернет-издание VIP.Lenta.Ru. Мы пишем статью о Википедии и хотели бы получить от Вас некотрые комментарии. Если Вам не трудно, свяжитесь, пожалуйста, с нами по ICQ 56279205 или по почтовому адресу vip.lenta@ssr.pp.ru

[edit] legacy of imperial russian society and poltics

we are having an assignment regarding with this matter and I`m confused of the legacy of imperial russian society as well as the poltics

[edit] American radio show about wikipedia

Hi

My name is Robin Amer and I’m a producer for an American public radio show called Open Source, which you can check out at www.radioopensource.org.

I’m writing you because this week we’re doing a show on Wikipedia including an interview with Jim Wales. We’re also looking for some particularly passionate and interesting Wikipedia users to talk to, especially users outside the US. I would love to talk to you about your involvement with the site. If you are interested, please give me a call at 617-497-8096, or email me at robinamer@riseup.net and send me your phone number.

Thanks so much.

Best, Robin Amer www.radioopensource.org

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Robinradio (talk • contribs) 15:23, 19 May 2005.

[edit] Image deletion

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[edit] Great work

Hi, i think you've done some great work at Wikipedia. I haven't been here for long, but from what I've seen, it's good. Also I have a few questions, if that is okay. I was just wondering how it is to live in Russia these days, how the days in the Soviet union were, and how Soviet life was compared to today's life, living under capitalism. Thanks - NWOG

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by NWOG (talk • contribs) 00:02, 2 August 2005.

[edit] Cut-and-paste moves

Hi, you used a cut-and-paste move to move Kharkiv and Kharkov around. Please don't do cut-and-paste moves, as it separates the article from its history, which we need to keep for Wikipedia:Copyright reasons. Please use WP:RM for help with moves if the "Move this page" link/tab doesn't work. I will fix this one - have you done any others? Thanks. Noel (talk) 00:31, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

PS: I don't usually check other User_talk: pages (so that I don't have to monitor a whole long list of User_Talk: pages - one for each person with whom I am having a "conversation"), so please leave any messages for me on my talk page (above); if you leave a message for me here I probably will not see it. I know not everyone uses this style (they would rather keep all the text of a thread in one place), but I simply can't monitor all the User_talk: pages I leave messages on. Thanks!

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Gabbe 23:30, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] О незаконных блокировках в русском секторе

Здравствуйте, Владимир Владимирович!

Не знаю уже кому и пожаловаться на произвол в Вашем секторе. В Википедии я недавно (где-то с февраля), но за за этот срок был пять раз заблокирован хулиганствующим администратором Ярославлевым. Хроника событий примерно такая (точные даты можно узнать из журнала блокировок):

1-ая блокировка, примерно 25 февраля, администратором С.Л., без объявления срока, без объявления на личной странице.

2-ая блокировка, 27 февраля, администратор Ярославлев, объявлена как бессрочная, поставлена поверх предыдущей. Для участия в Арбитраже через пару недель была снята.

3-ая блокировка в середине марта в день обсуждения на Арбитраже моих претензий к Ярославлеву. Разумеется,- тем же Ярославлевым. Обе блокировки были сняты Арбитражем.

4-ая блокировка, 24 апреля, на срок в три дня, администратор Ярославлев.

5-ая блокировка, 28 апреля, на срок в три дня, администратор Ярославлев.

Всё это является глумлением надо мной, за мои правки в статье Новая Хронология (Фоменко). Конфликт произошёл из-за хамских и немотивированных откатов участника MaxSem, как это и было признано на Арбитраже. Первые три блокировки были инспирированы MaxSem'ом.

Последние две блокировки связаны с процессом выбора MaxSem'a в администраторы Википедии. Ярославлев предварительно заблокировал меня, чтобы я не успел к началу голосования, а потом почти сразу же после разблокировки (на следующий день). Можно видеть, что MaxSem с Ярославлевым являются неразлучной парой в Википедии, совместно глумятся над новичками и уничтожают чужую работу (под оскорбительными и надуманными предлогами). В их группу входят и другие участники, сделавшие хулиганство в Википедии своим основным развлечением. Администратор Ярославлев является их покровителем и защитником - для того только он и пролез на эту должность. Теперь туда же лезет и MaxSem. Несколько раз поднимался вопрос о снятии с Ярославлева администраторских полномочий (обсуждение сразу же глушится блокировками со стороны Ярославлева), и новый администратор-хулиган нужен этой компании как раз в связи с этой ситуацией возможной потери защитника.

Я обращался по поводу этой ситуации к администратору MaxMaxMax, но это ни к чему осмысленному не привело. Он входит в "группу поддержки" MaxSem, или не желает себе хлопот от этого хулигана. Может быть хоть здесь я найду какую-то управу на обнаглевших гопников, хотя, честно говоря - не очень надеюсь на это.

С уважением, А.Б. Верёвкин

Ссылки:

Обсуждение участника:А.Б. Верёвкин

Список заблокированных IP-адресов и пользователей

Википедия:Заявки на статус администратора/MaxSem

Участник:А.Б. Верёвкин/Архив новохронологических баталий

Мда. Просто нет слов. Складывается впечатление, что писать статьи в русском разделе Википедии неимоверно сложно - вандалами и троллями являются практически все админы и многие участники, остальные входят в группу поддержки. MaxiMaxiMax 16:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Именно так и есть. Чем больше статей в русском секторе делаешь, тем больше времени приходится проводить на страницах обсуждений, пытаясь защитить работу от невежественных "кастраторов", которые в жизни не прочитали ни одной книжки, но администрирующих русский сектор под девизом гы-гы-гы неынцыклопедично!. Любой грамотный человек (примеров ни счесть, — хотя бы тот же А. Левитас, или Messir) становится объектом хамских нападок "кастраторов" и их анонимных клонов (вроде непотопляемого WrongMana, с помощью которого лично Вы изливаете свою неприязнь на неугодных участников) и выдавливается из Википедии, становится "мёртвой душой" для отчётности Вотякова. Вы сознались, что ждёте, что добрый заморский дяденька переведёт статьи английского сектора в русский. А пока — гуляй душа, трави русских участников! Мне кажется, что эта неафишируемая политика нынешней администрации РВП находится в вопиющем противоречии с целями проекта. Без уважения к Вам лично и к Вашей "команде". А.Б. Верёвкин, 20-00, 5 мая, 2006

• Отв. на странице А.Б. Верёвкина. Кратко: Спасибо, буду разбираться... Dr Bug 17:37, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
• Разобрался. Как всё запущено... А.Б. Верёвкин, конечно, эмоционален и передёргивает, но спровоцированно это реальными проблемами. Drbug 11:45, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Мёртвые Души"

Сообщаю о следующем подлоге со стороны нынешних администраторов Русской Википедии. На многочисленных административных страницах ни в одном месте не указываются правила, которыми сообщество руководствуется при эксплуатации личных страниц. И это не случайный просчёт, а продуманная практика. Опишу свой случай. Я вступил в резкий конфликт с активным большинством Википедии, включая её администраторов, и в итоге потребовал удаления своих личных данных из неё, публично объявив о своём уходе. В ответ администратор и бюрократ Вотяков заблокировал от меня мою же личную страницу!, на моей странице обсуждения хозяйничают мои враги — именно те люди, из-за которых-то я и покинул проект (в частности, виртуал самого Вотякова — Wrong Man, безнаказанно хулиганящий в русском секторе).

Данные действия имеют своей целью не только глумление над рядовым участником, осмелившимся бросить вызов обнаглевшим административных хамам, но и прямой подлог содержания деятельности этих хамов. Они скрывают, что благодаря их "усилиям" проект покинули сотни грамотных участников, не пожелавшие тратить своё время на непрестанную войну с невежественными пачкунами и администрирующими гопниками. Посмотрим же список участников, покинувших проект!! Там стоит только одна невразумительная позиция. Остальные (во время моего краткого знакомства с Русской Википедией её демонстративно покинули 3 человека, не считая бессрочно заблокированных, которых за то же время набралось с несколько десятков, это только те, с кем я пересекался на каких-то страницах, вообще же их должно быть в десять раз больше). Таким образом невежественные и некультурные администраторы пытаются создать впечатление, что в проекте работает множетство учёных, писателей, специалистов, хотя на самом-то деле всех этих людей вытолкнули из проекта после десятка статей. А теперь в Русской Википедии хозяйничают самые низменные отбросы российского интернета, возглавляемые их лидером — Вотяковым. А.Б. Верёвкин, 12-50, 6 мая, 2006

А почему, собственно, мы должны верить Вам, а не им? И в чём смысл размещения Ваших тирад на странице практически неактивного участника в английской Википедии? Я не могу Вас ни осуждать, ни поддерживать, поскольку не знаком с историей конфликта, но комментарии, подобные вышеприведённому, выглядят по меньшей мере нелепо и по большей — подозрительно. С уважением, —Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 15:47, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Я не батюшка, чтобы мне верить. И даже не партработник. Я не внушаю и ничего не рекламирую. Учу я тоже только в отведённом месте. Так что Ваш крик души мне непонятен. На эту страницу я пришёл по цепочке перенаправлений, когда пытался связаться с кем-то из администраторов, кому ещё можно доверять (пока они не доказали обратного). Я выяснил по дороге, что у половины администраторов русского сектора неработающие почтовые ящики (по крайней мере, ответов оттуда я не получил). А когда писал первые посты был заблокирован в русском секторе и не мог написать ничего на страницу обсуждения участника. А.Б. Верёвкин, 13 мая 2006, 12-30

Хоронить меня пока не надо :-). А смысл может состоять в том, что это крик души... D'''r''' B'''u'''g[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Drbug&action=edit&section=new &nbsp;] [[User:Drbug|(Volodymyr V. Medeiko)]] 18:03, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Особенно комично смотрится то, что его обсуждение заблокировал от переименования я, но г-н В. упорно считает меня MaxiMaxiMax'овым сокпаппетом) MaxSem 17:42, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

И вот мы видим очередное враньё обнаглевшего гопника. Нигде я не утверждал, что Семенник - клон Вотякова. Я не выяснял - по чьей команде хулиганят на моей странице обсуждений, мне было достаточно увидеть, что личную запер именно Вотяков, который с конца апреля трусливо уклоняется от обсуждения своих неправомочных действий. А.Б. Верёвкин, 13 мая 2006, 12-30

• Разобрался. Как всё запущено... А.Б. Верёвкин, конечно, эмоционален и передёргивает, но спровоцированно это реальными проблемами. Dr Bug 11:50, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Список тоталитарных сект

Template:Начало цитаты Удаление организации Новый Акрополь из Списка тоталитарных сект преждевременно, т.к. обсуждение ещё не законченно. Прошу администраторов вернуть статью к версии 07:18, 12 июня 2006 MaxSem --Roman Nikolaev 20:48, 13 июня 2006 (UTC) Template:Конец цитаты У вас в России презумцию невиновности уже отменили? - Vald 08:12, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

• Ans. in ru-wiki. Dr Bug 10:32, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Интервью для газеты "Новые Известия"

Добрый день! Меня зовут Илья Носырев, я корреспондент газеты "Новые Известия". Мы пишем большую статью о Википедии. Был бы очень благодарен, если бы Вы ответили на несколько вопросов. Пытался дозвониться на указанный Вами телефон, но что-то не получается. Можно онлайн :)

Comment: Thanks to MaxSem for pointing me to this message (I'm rather active at Ru Wiki). Ilya have already successfully contacted me by phone.

Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 05:09, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Soulbot

Слушай, я думал, что Участник:Soulbot уже давно присвоили статус бота.. Была же заявка, обсуждение... // vh16^ru talk 12:38, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Mea culpa. Fixed. Спасибо! Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 11:10, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome back

Dear Irpen, it's nice that people are still remember me :-). I'm going to increase level of my participation here.

Ok, I will doublecheck, and then fix. I'm now older and hopefully wiser :-). Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 07:31, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Dr Bug, how can anyone forget your eloquent exchanges with some of my ultra-nationalist compatriots? Welcome back! --Irpen 18:12, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

:-) Thank you! Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 19:06, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, and don't you pull the trick you pulled on us last time—appearing and then disappearing back :) Welcome!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:49, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I now understand that it was a silly trick :-). Thanks! Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 18:22, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Russian History Harmonization

Hello there. I have a question for you, and I ask you not to get upset with it :-) I apoligise in advance if the question irritates you, but that was not my intention... So, the question is: is there a possibility of closing down of Wikipedia:Russian History Harmonization wikiproject? Now, why would I suggest something like that? Well, the project has became a dangerous precedent, see here: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject countering anti-Serb bias. Second point is that the project seems to be stalled. Talk page hasn't been touched in more than 2 years, and, except for one recent edit, the project page hasn't been touched in 6 months. Seems to me that there is no big need for this project, and it is making a lot of trouble as precedent for Wikipedia:WikiProject countering anti-Serb bias. Would you agree that your WikiProject should be put on WP:MFD? Please, don't get angry on me for proposing something like that :-) --Dijxtra 11:53, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I think it may be useful to have projects like that. However, I agree you that it is completely stalled and unusable in its present form (I was sorrow about this a month ago). So I decided to move it to my personal name space (evidently, nobody will oppose it) and possible later I will reshape it to more usable form, and maybe then I will invite people there. So, no need for WP:MFD. And of course I'm not angry. As for the Serb project, I will look there and maybe comment. Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 16:27, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] По поводу одних событий

А на каких условиях разблокируете участника Magic, не нарушавшего ВП, по некоторым данным с таких же IP могли выходить другие участники, нельзя же из-за этого блокировать, участник известен своим конструктивным подходом к работе в Википедии, спасибо Alex name 21:26, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Уважаемый коллега!

Правила нарушены неоднократно - и помещение защищённой авторскими правами информации, и обход блокировки при помощи кукол, и многое другое. Но вообще, я подумаю, что можно сделать с участником Mond/Fly и т.д. Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 21:17, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] О проверенных и отрецензированных статьях

Вот обещанные ссылки: de:Wikipedia:Gesichtete Versionen (проверенные) и de:Wikipedia:Geprüfte Versionen (отрецензированные статьи). Английской версии я ещё не нашёл, возможно их и вовсе нет. Мне кажется что эксперимент этот чисто немецкий. Ну что, почитай! Если слишком трудно то можешь попробовать уговорить меня ... ;-) Obersachse 06:16, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Ух, куда я попал? Obersachse

Спасибо, Томас! В принципе, эти-то ссылки я и сам знал... Но можно тебя, всё-таки, попросить, в двух словах (не только по тем статьям, но и по встрече в Чемнице) сказать, в чём основные проблемы? Спасибо! Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 17:14, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anti-Serbian bias

I believe you may want to comment Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2006 October 3. Nikola 20:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Done. Hopefully it will help to solve the issue! Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 10:05, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Attractive Russian WP-women

Dear Dr. Bug,

I know, it sounds silly and not very serious, but on behalf of the Bertelsmann Pro Futura Verlag I'm doing a book chapter about the people and persons behind the Wikipedia and THEREFORE I've to find interesting and (that's the silly thing) good looking interviewpartners, who wants to answer a few questions and who don't mind to appear in the book with a photo (this good-looking-thing doesn't sound good, but it is necessary, because it's an illustrated book, printed in best quality and high circulation).

My big request: If you know an interesting, intelletual and attractive russian WP-woman - would you be so kind and ask her, if she would answer me just a few questions.

Thank you very much in advance,

Britta Mentzel bmentzel@gmx.de

Dear Britta, I will check if I can help. Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 08:42, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:VavilovNI.jpg

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Thank you, Bot! I have fixed the description. Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 09:06, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move

Готово. Вроде бы ничего сам не напутал :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:10, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy New Year!

Thank you very much! I'm very pleased! Find my response at your talk! :-). Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 23:05, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tatar to Russian and/or English translation

Hello, I have started corresponding with a Russian lady and her first note came written in what I believe to be Tatar. There were words, such as Çäðàâñòâóéòå and óâàæåíèåì in the letter and I couldn't find a way to translate the letter neither to English nor to Russian. Are you able to tell me where can I find such a translator without using a translation agency? Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.18.162.33 (talk) 15:15, 25 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Map of the federal subjects

Hi there! Thanks for this map—I think it's a good solution. I just want to point out that #59 on the map (Perm Oblast) should also be parenthesized, and that #90 (Perm Krai) should be added somehow. Other than that—great job!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:12, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WPW newsletter

The Writing systems WikiProject Newsletter Issue I - December 2006
News Welcome to the newsletter of the Writing systems WikiProject, everyone. Our project currently has 29 members. Any questions or requests for assistance on writing system articles can be posted at WT:WPW. Our Article Assessment Project is currently underway. Feel free to contribute by assessing and improving all unassessed articles according to the assessment page. Any help is appreciated. We would like to bring all mid-, high-, and top-importance articles to at least B class by the end of the year. We are working on implementing writing systems templates into appropriate articles. Try to help out!	Writing system articles Importance Top High Mid Low None Total Quality FA 3 1 4 A GA 2 2 B 14 15 31 13 8 81 Start 9 21 31 53 21 135 Stub 4 9 95 25 133 Assessed 23 42 74 162 54 355 Unassessed 0 0 0 36 888 924 Total 23 42 74 198 942 1279
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This is the project's first newsletter. If you have any questions, comments, or ideas about it, feel free to post it on WT:WPW. Thanks. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 23:12, 24 February 2007 (UTC)