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[edit] Historical accuracy

On the main article page it lists the 13th dynasty as being more current than the 18th dynasty. When in fac t the 13th dynasty was 1400 years earlier from around 1773 B.C.to around 1650 B.C. It's probably just an honest mistake and should be corrected by the person that made it. The thirteen Dynasty page here in Wikipedia bears the same mistakes in period.

The Article page not only bears mistakes on the dates of the Thirteenth Dynasty it also completelty passes over the the Kushite Dynasty, omitting four hundred years of Egyptian History. When I put in the information (which can be sourced through Wikipedia and even Harvard University) it is erased. If Wikipedia isn't seeking the truth and nothing but the truth, what's the point? Tom 02/25/07

That is a really good point. Ben 02/25/07

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The text in question:

The Twenty Fifth and Twenty Sixth Dynasties were marked by the Kushite/Ethiopian rule of Egypt. With some interruptions by the Assyrians, there was a line of Nubian rulers of Egypt from around 750 B.C. to 332 B.C. which overlaps into the Persian/Twenty Seventh Dynasty.

A prominent pharoah during this period was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taharqa. (Taharqa) ruled upper Egypt from around 688 B.C. to 662 B.C. Defeated once by the Assyrians he again regained power and declared himself ruler of all Egypt. During his reign, Taharqa controlled the largest empire in Ancient Africa. He built a temple of solid granite at Jabal Barkal in the Sudan. He also built another temple to the gods Osiris and Ptah. Scholars have identified him with Tirhakah, king of Ethiopia, who waged war against Sennacherib during the reign of King Hezekiah of Judah (2 Kings 19:9; Isaiah 37:9). He built temples in Sanam, Kawa, Atribis, Pnubs, Semna, Kasr Ibrim, and in the Theban district. Trading increased dramatically during his reign, fostering economic, religious and cultural activities in both Egypt and Ethiopia. His remains were excavated from a pyramid in Nuri in 1917 by an expedition sponsored by Harvard University.

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It was probably removed because it is too detailed for this article; there is not enough room to mention every leader over the many thousands of years of Egyptian history. Some of this information might be more appropriate for the article Taharqa, but needs cleanup. See Talk:Taharqa for my comments.

What is the source of your information about the Thirteenth dynasty of Egypt? This article does not currently mention it; perhaps you were confusing it with the Thirtieth dynasty of Egypt? -- Beland 03:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Re: Egypt articles

I am concerned by the manner in which some articles relating to Egypt have been edited in a biased, partisan, and inaccurate way. I have attempted to remedy this situation, but have encountered considerable resistance from some other contributors.

The edits I have made to the Egypt page are essentially either:

A) technical, such as correcting the official name of the country as "Gumhūriyyat Miṣr el-ʿArabiyyah", where formerly it read "Jumhūriyyat Maṣr el-ʿArabiyyah" (Misr rather than Masr is correct in this instance, since Masr is the Egyptian Arabic vernacular not the official standard as used by the Egyptian Government - note that in this instance the "g" rather than "j" in "Gumhūriyyat" reflects the official standard in Egypt in addition to the vernacular) and placing the modern Arabic names for the country before the anachronistic names in the now unused Egyptian/Coptic as such - "Egypt (Arabic: مصر Miṣr ; Egyptian Arabic: Máṣr; Egyptian: km.t ; Coptic: Ⲭⲏⲙⲓ Kīmi ; )";

B) the insertion of better English (the introductory paragraph regarding Sinai - Sinai is poorly described as a land bridge TO Asia since it IS in Asia).

However, there are 2 matters of greater concern. Firstly, the removal of mention to the Arab World when it appears next to the term Middle East. Inclusion of this term is common sense, and indeed necessary to inform the reader. It is a larger geo-cultural region to which Egypt is inextricably linked, and as such, its inclusion is factually accurate and important for informative purposes. Its deliberate exclusion can only be symptomatic of a general anti-Arab prejudice by some contributors who seek to deny or downplay the Arab aspect of Egyptian identity. Such acts reflect personal views, not facts, and compromise the neutrality and accuracy of the article. There are further such examples, some oblique but not the less identifiable, which I could cite in articles related to Egypt.

Secondly, the issue regarding the appropriate name for the Revolution of July 23 1952. I have commented on this issue substantially in the Talk section of the 1952 Revolution page, which I have flagged regarding neutrality - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:1952_Revolution.

My sole concern is that accurate and fully informative information be placed on these pages. I hope that we will be able to probably analyze the issues raised above in a manner that is impartial and reflects commonly used terms rather than those that betray an ingrained personal prejudice.

Thank you.

Louse 09:03, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I reverted to the proper chronological order of the languages and to the older description of the Sinai. There is a previous consensus on the Sinai part for neutrality's sake. I've also written a discussion of the identity question to accommodate alternative views on Egypt's Arab orientation. Also, I suggest you attempt to disabuse yourself a little bit of conspiracy theories. — Zerida 08:35, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Population of Egypt

In the beginning sentences it says that Egypt is the 'fifteenth most populous' country, while in the box table it is list as eleventh. Just wondering whether this information could be wrong, thanks Aeryck89 10:00, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

List of countries by population on Wikipedia shows it is the 15th most populous country. That article shows Egypt's population based on its population clock, whereas this article shows what appears to be a 2007 estimate without a source. Even if the estimate on this page was true, that would still only place it 14th on the world population table. Therefore I think it's safe to say it is the 15th most populous country in the world, unless someone can source the 2007 population estimate on the Egypt page. LeviathanMist 17:39, 4 April 2007 (UTC)