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Contents 1 Genres 2 The intro is so bad that it is embarrassing! 3 FAC 4 Influence 5 Biography 6 QueenZone forum and FAC 7 Pictures 8 A note on GA status 9 What 10 Queen Films 11 Roger Meddows-Taylor

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[edit] Genres

I changed the information box a bit, now it says "Hard rock, glam rock, progressive rock" and various others, wich links to the "sound and style" part of the article. I think it's quite a good solution. Also added some more on sound and style, feel free to add wathever you want.--85.224.81.128 00:32, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to remove the "Sound and Style" part because it is very poorly written and is extremely unverifiable. There are no sources. It's also very POV. So...it has to go. XXSaifXx 13:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

On second thought, I'm not going to remove it without consensus...We have to figure out a way to improve it...XXSaifXx 13:14, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, good thing you cleaned up the lyric themes part. My english isn't perfect... But Queen didn't just wrote dark lyrics. All of those 80's pop songs, are they about death and alienation? I know that most Queen fans are ashamed of the 80's, but they can't be ignored just because of that.--85.224.81.128 18:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Now that's funny, when I created the Sound and Style section, it had quite a few sources to boot and an explicit request for expansion. The infobox used to contain all those genres and that unnecessary bloat seems to be creeping back. Let's keep this contained, shall we? The purpose of these boxes is to provide essential information fast, throwing half a dozen (or more) genres at the reader does quite the opposite. - Cyrus XIII 01:18, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Well anyway I cleaned up a lot more than "Sound and Style" only...I cleaned up all the references. Yay...that was a lot of work :P. XXSaifXx 10:47, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

There is no "pop rock" at the sound and style part, for some reason. Most people are completely unaware of Queen's metal in the early '70s, and only know of songs like Another One Bites the Dust, I Want to Brea Free, Radio Ga Ga, A Kind of Magic etc.. To say that songs like Liar, Ogre Battle, Son and Daughter, Sweet Lady, White Man and other early metal songs are more famous for the ones who are not into rock is just a lie. I added a little section on how the band changed over the years, feel free to add and change but NOT delete. It is just too important.--85.224.82.231 16:10, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and I changed the introduction with the genre exemples. I changed heavy metal into speed metal, as heavy metal is one of their "usual" genres, and rockabilly, opera and my added funk is not. Queen have composed two songs that I count as speed metal, Modern Times Rock n' Roll and Stone Cold Crazy. They have only made two rockabilly songs as well, Crazy Little Thing Called Love and Man of the Prowl. I think that this was quite a good change.--Gustav Lindwall 16:36, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't know why pop\pop rock keeps getting removed from the infobox and is not even mentioned int he sound and style section. Queen produced lots of pop material throughout their career, among other genres. – Zone46 20:56, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

A common solution to genre disputes is to cite every genre change to the article. Try finding reputable sources and if more than one genre is stated, as is to be expected, then pick the ones that show up the most for the info box and mention the others in the article in the time period at which they occur. Darthgriz⁹⁸ 21:00, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The intro is so bad that it is embarrassing!

Please fix the intro! It is so bad that it is embarrassing to all Queen fans! Here is an example of a better alternative:

"Queen was a British rock band noted for its major worldwide popularity. Although the band rose to prominence during the mid-to-late 1970s, it continues to retain a large international fan base. The band is noted for its musical diversity and........"

This is an encyclopedia article!!!! Do not include obscure information in the first paragraph. The point of an encyclopedia article is to be accessible to the average person, even if he/she has never heard of Queen! Imagine writing an article about Queen for your grandmother to read. That is how you want to write here.

By the way, why in the world do you refuse to correctly conjugate your verbs here? The word "band" is singular. In Spanish, you use "es" for singular nouns and "son" for plural nouns. In Latin, you use "est" for a singular noun and "sunt" for a plural noun. Am I correct here? Since when does the English language not follow the basic rules of grammar!!!! 138.67.44.86 04:34, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Regarding grammar, this article is written in British English because Queen are a British band. (see American and British English differences)— miketm - Queen WikiProject - 05:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

If it's British English, it's "Queen are" and if it's American English, it's "Queen is", right? Just wondering because I normally say "Queen is". Jedi feline 10:14, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes.— miketm - Queen WikiProject - 10:53, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm a member of the League of Copyeditors, and am reviewing this article at miketm's request. I reviewed the page regarding differences between American and British English, and did not see a direct reference to the verb "to be" in terms of singular or plural tense. Could you please provide a link to the relevant section of that page? I'm want to be consistent and correct throughout the article. Thank you! Galena11 21:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FAC

The article failed it's FA nomination (Who didn't see that coming?). The article should first have a peer review, then it should be nominated for GA status, and if it is listed, it should then be considered for a FA nomination.— miketm - Queen WikiProject - 07:10, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Influence

In the editing of the article, many of the bands that were under the influence section of the article were deleted, probably due to lack of reference. However, is it not best to put them back in the article and put a 'citation needed' next to them, instead of just deleting them?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.68.60.183 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Biography

There is a realy great and detailed biography on Queen at rockdetector.com (http://rockdetector.com/officialbio,7124.sm)12.65.54.156 10:28, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] QueenZone forum and FAC

OK, this is really not necessary, someone over at the QueenZone forum is basically asking people to vote in support of the article becoming a FA. (Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Queen (band)/archive2, http://queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=963642)— miketm - Queen WikiProject - 03:29, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, no, I wasn't asking people to vote in FAVOUR of the nomination, I was asking for them to take part, point out mistakes and if vote according to what they think. And I asked only people who had existing Wikipedia accounts to vote but I guess no one heeded that... XXSaifXx 04:40, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures

Are pictures of each album necessary on the band page? I think that maybe one or two of their best-known albums should be on the band page and the rest of the pictures should go to the album page. Tell me what you think about this. Jedi feline 10:17, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

All of the bands albums are well known, and all but three (Q #24, QII #5, SHA #2) have reached number one on numerous charts. Also the covers are small, only 125px compared to the normal 180px.— miketm - Queen WikiProject - 10:46, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I think we should put more pictures of the band in the article, along with selected album pics. – Zone46 20:46, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Many of the album covers serve a double purpose because they include photos of the band.— miketm - Queen WikiProject - 04:55, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

While we're at it, how about a less stylized picture for the infobox? (I know, I'm obsessed with that thing.) The Queen II cover is a good photograph from an artistic point of view but a more leveled portrayal might still be more suitable to introduce the band. Something like the covers of The Works or Greatest Hits (I). - Cyrus XIII 21:22, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't mind the Queen II picture for the infobox. It is one of the band's most well-known photos. – Zone46 22:30, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

And also, the covers for The Works and Greatest Hits are terrible. This got to be one of the best covers ever, and also serves the purpose as a band portrait. Keep it.--Gustav Lindwall 12:44, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A note on GA status

I see that this article was at one time a Featured article or FA candidate. However, the article is not listed as a Good Article . As part of the Rock music WikiProject, it is suggested that an article achieve Good Article (GA) status before having it's candidacy re-newed. So be sure that points from any previous Features article candidate (FAC) archives and peer reviews are taken and applied to the article, and shoot for a GA nomination. Good luck! --Reaper X 22:37, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

See also #FAC— miketm - Queen WikiProject - 23:03, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What

No Trivia about one of the best bands ever!!! Surely there must be.

• Trivia sections are usually fancruft. – Zone46 22:08, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Queen Films

Should the Queen Films DVD get a mention somewhere on this page? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.55.84.224 (talk) 06:52, 1 April 2007 (UTC).

That would most likely go under the Queen videography. – Zone46 13:45, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Roger Meddows-Taylor

There is currently a discussion over at Roger Meddows-Taylor on weather or not to move the page to 'Roger Taylor (Queen)'.— miketm - Queen WikiProject - 03:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)