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Contents 1 Image:US Route 50 Business (MD).svg 2 Junction list 3 Roads in Maryland template 4 List of Maryland business routes 5 Interstate 70 in Baltimore, Maryland 6 Cleanup template 7 Inactive users removed from participants list

[edit] Image:US Route 50 Business (MD).svg

Why can't I get this shield to display in a Wikipedia page? -TheOneKEA

Purge it on Commons.  V60 ^{VTalk · VDemolitions · VRoads} 23:08, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I tried to follow the instructions on the page, but it doesn't work. How do I purge images? -TheOneKEA

Here is a purge link for the image.  V60 ^{VTalk · VDemolitions · VRoads} 01:39, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

In fact, I already purged it; the image displays now.  V60 ^{VTalk · VDemolitions · VRoads} 01:42, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

No, it still won't display for me. I tried purging the article that uses the image but it just doesn't work... -TheOneKEA

Look here, it's an SVG bug.  V60 ^{VTalk · VDemolitions · VRoads} 17:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Junction list

A recent edit has been made to the Maryland Route 8 article that goes against this project's established standards including the format of the junction list. I was going to simply revert it and cite WP:MDRD/EG as the reason, only to find that that has been changed as well! In the future, I would prefer if members of this project sought comment here before making such a drastic change to the project standards. That said, I like the idea of using templates to simplify the junction list, however it's missing some things, namely control cities and a format for water crossings. Also "Road(s)" needs to be named "Destinations" to be more in line with Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Interstate Highways/Exit list guide, on which the table is supposed to be based. Comments?-Jeff ^(talk) 03:22, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Whoa, that is quite a change!! Having to do that will necessitate major revision of just about every article in the entire project - although I do agree that a template will make it somewhat easier to create such lists. -TheOneKEA

After thinking about this some, some more things need to be added to make it easier to use with Maryland articles. Counties for example can only be linked in the form [[{{{County}}} County, Maryland|{{{County}}}]], which doesn't work well with Baltimore City, perhaps some logic could be added that tests for the value "Baltimore City" in the county field and links it appropriately. Also, as I mentioned earlier, there is no way to provide control cities for junctioned routes. I reverted the MD 8 article until some of these issues can be resolved since it will probably require some extra parameters. (See the diff link above for how the table applies to the article).-Jeff ^(talk) 17:55, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

In the location variable, it can be specified as Baltimore City. Also, for unincorporated areas, just put "COUNTY County". This new table is basically the standard for a number of WikiProjects (WP:PASH, WP:NYSR, WP:INSR, WP:RIR, WP:SCSH, WP:NVSH). Extra parameters will probably not work since the new table is based off of {{Jcttop}} and {{Jctbtm}}. Control cities can be listed in the infobox.  V60 ^{VTalk · VDemolitions · VRoads} 01:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Also, the current junction table, based off of WP:IH/ELG, cannot be used, and the exit list should only be used if the route is a freeway or has one or more freeway sections in it. See Pennsylvania Route 60 for clarification.  V60 ^{VTalk · VDemolitions · VRoads} 01:06, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Scratch the thing about control cities. In a regular junction, you don't often get control cities listed. As with the Baltimore County and City problem, you can bypass the template and use the regular table, like this (Baltimore County):

|-
|[[Baltimore County, Maryland|Baltimore County]]
|LOCATION
|MILEPOST
|ROAD
|NOTES
{{MDint

For Baltimore City, you can use this:

|-
|colspan=2|[[Baltimore City, Maryland|Baltimore City]]
|MILEPOST
|ROAD
|NOTES
{{MDint

Add a |colspan=x if needed. V60 ^{VTalk · VDemolitions · VRoads} 01:38, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Roads in Maryland template

Roads and highways in Maryland
Roads:	State highways - U.S. highways and Interstate highways - Minor state highways - Decommissioned state highways
Highway agencies:	State Highway Administration (SHA) - Maryland Transportation Authority (MdTA)

I plan on adding the above table as a template to some of this project's main articles to help better tie them together, it will basically replace the "see also" links to the above liked articles such as those in List of Maryland state highways. Anyone think anything can be added, or if it can be otherwise improved?-Jeff ^(talk) 05:46, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

That's nice! A list of parkways in Maryland might also be a useful addition. -TheOneKEA

All that can be included in the links row in the infobox. This template is not needed. V60 ^{VTalk · VDemolitions · VRoads} 16:02, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

It's not for the route articles, just the articles listed in it similar to {{MdTA facilities}}. Like I said, it would be nice to have a handy way to organize the "see also" links in them and make sure they all link to each other. As for the parkways, we could create a separate template for them, but if there are alot of them we might be better off creating a list article for them.-Jeff ^(talk) 04:10, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Maryland business routes

Should a mega-article be created with redlinks to all of the business routes present in Maryland? At the moment, there are at least six:

• U.S. Route 1 Business (Bel Air, Maryland)
• U.S. Route 13 Business (Pocomoke City, Maryland)
• U.S. Route 13 Business (Salisbury, Maryland)
• U.S. Route 15 Business (Emmitsburg, Maryland)
• U.S. Route 50 Business (Salisbury, Maryland)
• U.S. Route 113 Business (Snow Hill, Maryland)

-TheOneKEA

No, keep them as they are, and in fact, create those pages. Just make sure they are not in a browse of some sort. V60 ^{VTalk · VDemolitions · VRoads} 16:05, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Interstate 70 in Baltimore, Maryland

Like the I-95 in Maryland article, this one is starting to get pretty big - should the sections on Baltimore be split into a separate article? I got the Interstate Highways WikiProject to approve Interstate 95 in Baltimore, Maryland, so I doubt that Interstate 70 in Baltimore, Maryland would be a severe problem, especially since the article on the Jones Falls Expressway follows the same precedent and existed well before I-95's article. The biggest issue I would have with doing a split is the lack of historical info for the rest of the route - the section on Baltimore takes up most of the existing article. -TheOneKEA

[edit] Cleanup template

Just a heads up, I just created a cleanup template at {{cleanup-mdrd}}, since it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to tag long articles as stubs simply because they are missing a section or two. The stub templates should just be used on short articles.-Jeff ^(talk) 20:46, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

This template is substandard, it needs to look more like the parent USRD cleanup template. V60 ^{VTalk · VDemolitions · VRoads} 23:00, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inactive users removed from participants list

Like the heading says, users that have been deemed inactive within the U.S. Roads WikiProject (one of this project's parent WikiProjects) have been removed from the participants list. If you are subscribed to the project newsletter (which everyone is by default) you should have gotten notice that this was going to happen. In case you didn't know though and are still active, make sure you weren't erroneously removed from the list.-Jeff ^(talk) 02:27, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

If you were, contact Rschen7754. V60 ^{干什么？ · VDemolitions · VRoads (路)} 02:52, 1 April 2007 (UTC)