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Buddhist monk begging at Oigawa, Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan.

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Reason: This is a picture I took a while back in Arashiyama, Kyoto. Maybe it doesn't have much of a "wow factor" but I think it's a really nice and representative picture of a begging monk. The background looks pretty nice too. I put this picture up at Picture peer review a while back and the comments were , although few, positive, so I decided to give it a go. I know there are some problems with the picture (like the blown highlights) but I'm hoping that isn't too big of a problem. I've uploaded the original too, maybe somebody else can make a better job out of it.
Articles this image appears in: Kyoto, Zen, Buddhist monasticism, Mendicant
Creator: User:Mackan (Marubatsu at Commons)
Nominator: Mackan

Support — Mackan 00:41, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Weak oppose, I'd prefer if the posts were vertical, it seems slanted. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 01:17, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Support - Seems pretty nice to me. — ♥Tohru Honda13♥ 03:44, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Weak Oppose Slanted posts, glare on the hat, some noise on the clothes and looks excessively noise removed. --antilived^{T | C | G} 07:50, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Support - Shows the culture really well, explains a lot, it is informative. Maybe just fix some of the technical aspects of the picture as mentioned above. --JonM 23:30, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Support Nice. TomStar81 (Talk) 11:07, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Question Forgive my ignorance but is this a genuine mendicant monk? The face is shaved, the nails treated, the cloths clean and appearing to be new, a quite modern suitcase instead of a packing-cloth sac... I know Japan is a wealthy country but this seems just wrong. - Alvesgaspar 15:29, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I didn't actually ask him, but that's what mendicants look like in modern Japan.

Support, agree with the nominator that the minor technical problems don't really detract from the photo's quality. Recury 17:50, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Oppose I'm sorry, but cropping the suitcase looks like cutting out reality in order to create a sentimental representation. Also, lots of technical problems. ~ trialsanderrors 19:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

So you don't think leaving it in would distract from the subject? I can't imagine more people would support the picture if it were included...Mackan 21:55, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

A catch-22, I know. ~ trialsanderrors 22:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, btw, I'd like to ask you to be more specific about "lots of technical problems". Mackan 20:33, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Blown highlights (water, hat, sleeve), slanted posts, concrete tiles OOF. I think most has been mentioned already. ~ trialsanderrors 04:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Oppose, not a moving enough photo to make up for the blowout/blur. gren グレン 04:33, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, what blur are you referring to? Mackan 10:56, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Support cropped version. Good informative picture. Technical aspects are fine. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:21, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Support, informative and fairly striking. Not overly happy with some of the technical aspects of it, but it's still feature-quality nonetheless. GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 04:29, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Oppose - I don't think this is really representative of an Asian mendicant monk. Alvesgaspar 19:24, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

On what grounds? I can assure you it is, of a Japanese monk. If it was a picture of a Chinese monk, it wouldn't be representative of a Japanese one, and vice versa. There is no picture which could represent all "Asian mendicant monks". Mackan 21:33, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

- Yes, but "some are more equal than others". We associate mendicant orders with poverty and begging for alms, and I believe that is still the case with the majority of mendicant monks in Asia. That is why I don't think this one is really representative. - Alvesgaspar 12:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, I think that judgement is really unfair, with that rationale no picture of a Japanese monk could ever become a featured picture, but instead of saying more about that, I'd like to remind you that this picture is also used in the articles of Kyoto and Zen. It seems unfair then that you would oppose it of you're only gripe is the fact that it's not representative for a "pan-Asian" mendicant (whose appearances could be discussed).Mackan 14:43, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Support - Lovely. --Iriseyes 23:34, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Neutral. Great composition, enc, but blown highlights on water, hat thingy, etc. Great editing consideirng original.--Here T oHelp 02:53, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Mackan 12:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Weak Oppose - It's not the best possible. --Arad 18:51, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Support nice, fulfils featured picture rules. ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 12:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Oppose. Not quite FP material in my opinion. --KFP (talk | contribs) 20:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC)