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Uh, Driver didn't do anything like GTA until GTA III. Sure, it was criminal shit, and you could get out of your car in a limited amount in the second, but it is otherwise totally unrelated. Don't give credit where credit is undeserved, aka Driver. All the games in the series suck anyway. You can't even jump. Dudewhiterussian 21:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- You're wrong on a number of factors. Driver (1 & 2) pioneered the "3-D free roam driving" genre before GTAIII came out. Then, gaming critics lambasted Driver 3 and especially Parallel Lines for being too much like GTA, i.e., adding more on-foot, shooting, and in the case of PL, more of the "gangster" cliches, some of which GTA had even used. So yes, Driver did in fact borrow many elements from GTA even though the Driver series did the 3D-free roam stuff first. And for the record, you could jump in Driv3r. -albrozdude 03:10, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Saints Row
Saints Row was in development before SA was released, and even before many details were released. Remember when Tokyo and Sin City were possible settings? Neither of those seem big on a street gang. The only design decision really influenced by San Andreas was the changing of the Saints color. Saints Row does not borrow the street gang theme from San Andreas, simple as that.
- Nonetheless, many videogame publications have noted the similarity in game structure between the Grand Theft Auto series in general and Saint's Row. This article isn't about naming GTA Clones for criticism's sake, it's for reporting games that have been called GTA clones for encyclopedic sake. -albrozdude 02:03, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
"A number of games jumped onto the "street gang" theme popularized by Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, and attempted to emulate the success of that game by employing the "gangsta" GTA 3 nor VC were street gang themed. While it is fine to add it in as a GTA clone (it is the same genre, and it is a valid concern) for encyclopedic purposes, it is wrong and POV to declare that it "attempted to emulate the success of that game by employing the gangsta image" when it was being developed before the release or even concrete facts of SA were made made public. Now that it has been moved, I digress. Currently, it is fine. It was not before.
- Sorry, I realize your concern now. When the reviews came out for Saint's Row it appeared that the game took other pieces from GTA, so I changed the entry here. For being such a "clone" of GTA, I'm surprised the reviewers liked it. I wish I had 360 so I could play it. -albrozdude 03:01, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Urban Chaos
Someone should add a mention of the game "Urban Chaos" (I'm talking about the old one, not the new first person shooter) which was a free-roam game on the PC/PS1. It was actually released before GTA3, in 1999, but failed due to little or no publicity. Despite this technicality it could still count as a clone.
[edit] Interstate '82
What about Interstate '82 (1999) then? // Liftarn
[edit] Crackdown
Crackdown is soon getting released for the 360. After playing the demo, I would describe it as a mix between The Hulk, Spiderman 2 and GTA. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Strahlehans (talk • contribs) 15:53, 28 January 2007 (UTC).
Crackdown is not actually much of a GTA Clone. I believe it is unfair and biased to call any free-roaming game a GTA Clone, as Crackdown has an entirely diffrent gameplay stature. It allows you to do many things GTA never can do (because GTA tries to stay realistic, while Crackdown employs the use of superpowers). //Tr1ckydr1v3r 18:03, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- See my point below (on more stricter guidelines for a GTA clone). I do agree that Crackdown is Open World/Sandbox, but definitely not a "GTA Clone".--Masem 22:05, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Need more stricter guidelines AND/OR merge page with another topic?
I think the list on this page is getting a bit heavy and people are stretching the concept of "GTA Clone" to mean anything that's more like a sandbox game. I don't disagree that some of these are GTA Clones, but a wikipedia standpoint, there's only a couple that we can actually say with backup references (Saints Row and True Crime) and without being speculative. I'm wondering if this article, by itself, is a good thing, or should this be merged in with the Sandbox article (which all cited games are), with a special section on notable GTA Clones and Rockstar's response. --Masem 16:22, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- I think the article is fine but I do agree that any additions to the list of games needs to be cited. Obviously I wouldn't agree that every game listed is indeed a "clone" of Grand Theft Auto, but if a professional critic asserts that (which they love to do) then the game should be included here. And if Doom clone has an article, so should GTA clone, as "GTA clone" is just as prevalent (if not moreso) as "Doom clone", especially today. -albrozdude 04:23, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
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- I agree with that, but there are some games that I've seen professionally reviewed that toss out "GTA" for games that are open world though not really are GTA clones. (example, Jak 2 is an open world, but I'd be hard pressed to call it a GTA clone). I think we need a few more guidelines for what should be added here, with note that the Open World page has a list for games that don't pass the GTA Clone test. --Masem 04:39, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Turbo Esprit
What about Turbo Esprit (1986) then? // Liftarn
