Talk:Interstate 275 (Florida)
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No mention of how I-275 used to be the end of I-75 and ended where I-4 begins today?--71.100.30.187 16:26, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
- I thought there was somewhere. Maybe in the I-75 article? Or I-4? --wknight94 19:47, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
- It's mentioned (albeit briefly) in the History section of this article. B.Wind 08:44, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
There used to be a online Tampa blog that thoroughly described the history of I-275, as well as thorough descriptions of all the Tampa Bay Interstates and Tollways (even the cancelled ones). But it was permanently shut down as of December 2005. The old address was www.bayciti.net. I have no clue if the website will ever return. Wslupecki 19:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Malfunction Junction
I heard from both news articles (I cannot locate those at this time) and a now shut-down Tampa Blog (mentioned above), that the I-4/I-275 Interchange, better known as Malfunction Junction, actually earned the notorius nickname about five years after the interchange was built in 1965. At that point, the junction was already seeing rush hour backups due to the immense ammount of traffic that the interstate was handling. This was blamed mostly on the rapid growth of Tampa in the 1970s.
[edit] I-75 vs I-275
I-75 is the basic north-south corridor starting in the north east and heading south through Georgia and down Florida's Gulf Coast to Naples, then crosses the state to end in Fort Lauderdale.
I-275 is the loop that branches off from I-75 north of Tampa, goes through Tampa and then over the bridge to Saint Petersburg, then over the Sunshine Skyway Bridge to hook up again with I-75 north of Sarasota.
I-4 sprouts out of the north-south corridor, I-95, on the east coast of Florida and heads down through Orlando to I-75 and then continues into Tampa to end where it pours into I-275 at Malfunction Junction which is pretty much in the middle of downtown Tampa.
I'm writing this because the article did not seem to point out that the bypass is I-275 and the main corridor is I-75. Mattisse 21:45, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
The I-75 "bypass" was originally supposed to be I-75E. But that plan was rejected since Florida does not use split routes. Wslupecki 01:09, 6 August 2006 (UTC).
[edit] History Section Rewritten/Expanded
Thanks to a couple of historical FL interstate websites. I have greatly expanded the history of I-275, however, the section needs an expert review before I can go any further with that section. Wslupecki 14:11, 5 August 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Malfunction Junction opens two new lanes leading to I-4 this week
Reportedly, the opening of these new lanes has made an enormous difference in the backup of traffic around Malfunction Junction. The renovation of this junction is not complete, and the widening and other additions to I-4 is in progress with completion dates several years from now. Mattisse(talk) 12:29, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
The Malfunction Junction renovation is scheduled to be done by the end of 2006, with the I-4 widening/renovation to be finished by Summer 2008. Most of the new lanes throughout the I-4/I-275 interchange are open at this point and according to FDOT, the I-4 renovation is 80% complete. Wslupecki 01:57, 15 August 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Nearly one month...and counting for Malfunction Junction
According to this Bay News 9 article, the Malfunction Junction reconstruction is entering the final stage of construction and should be done by mid-October 2006. Is'nt that something to jump for joy for? Wslupecki 16:21, 8 September 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Brace yourselves. The I-275 reconstruction is far from over.
As you may know, from a recent St. Petersburg Times article (which I linked in the reference section of the article). The proposed reconstruction project between downtown Tampa and the Howard Frankland Bridge was delayed by about a year after bids that FDOT recieved came in at 40% above original estimates. As a result of this setback, FDOT may reconstruct the interstate in smaller stages. But until how that will be done, expect horrendous backups while commuting to and from downtown (even when Malfunction Junction is finished). Furthermore, expect even worse delays when the construction begins next year, because that renovation project won't be done until 2013 or so. Wslupecki 02:08, 15 August 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Why still "Start"?
This article has a considerable amount of content, and while a clean-up is in order, clean-up is definitely part of the B-class criteria. If we clean this up to the standards it needs to be, it can easily make GA. Why should it be forced to jump from Start to GA that fast? I mean, I've seen much worse articles rated "Start", like the Pinellas Bayway, Florida State Road 692, Interstate 295 (Virginia), and Interstate 95 in Florida, to name a few. Also, I've seen equivalently good (and sometimes worse) B-class articles, such as Interstate 280 (New Jersey), Interstate 78 in New Jersey, Interstate 110 (Florida), and Interstate 5 for instance. I think this needs another look as to whether it truly is B-class or not. If a majority agrees it's just a Start, I'll accept and do what I can to fix it (quicker than I planned to, of course, because you're right, it does need some work), but I think a pularity would feel that this article should be upgraded. EaglesFanInTampa (formerly Jimbo) 16:06, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- As of right now, the article structure is too jumbled to give this anything higher than start. It also lacks any kind of route description, something that I personally feel is necessary for a road article to be B-class. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 16:10, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- Granted, but if you look at the examples I've provided, you'll see that there are far worse articles at a B-class rating. Yes, it's jumbled, and the B-class definition says the article has "significant gaps or missing elements or references, needs substantial editing for English language usage and/or clarity, balance of content..." which would fit here. However, it also has "a majority of the material needed for a completed article," which is the case here. I still think a rethink is in order for this article. I definitely see your point, but I think qualifies for the criteria set forth and should be moved up. I'm gonna work on it in the meantime, but hopefully to GA, and not just B, as that would be the next step. Check out Interstate 295 (Delaware-New Jersey) for a GA, which is what I feel this article will hit with some thoughtful tweaks. EaglesFanInTampa (formerly Jimbo) 16:21, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- Some commentary: I personally don't feel that I-295 (DE-NJ) is a GA, nor do I feel that half of the B-class examples you provided deserve to be B-class. I also feel that the B-class criteria should be moved up in that case, as my stance is that a high B-class article should be ready for GA consideration. If you disagree, feel free to file a reassessment here. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 16:30, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- Granted, but if you look at the examples I've provided, you'll see that there are far worse articles at a B-class rating. Yes, it's jumbled, and the B-class definition says the article has "significant gaps or missing elements or references, needs substantial editing for English language usage and/or clarity, balance of content..." which would fit here. However, it also has "a majority of the material needed for a completed article," which is the case here. I still think a rethink is in order for this article. I definitely see your point, but I think qualifies for the criteria set forth and should be moved up. I'm gonna work on it in the meantime, but hopefully to GA, and not just B, as that would be the next step. Check out Interstate 295 (Delaware-New Jersey) for a GA, which is what I feel this article will hit with some thoughtful tweaks. EaglesFanInTampa (formerly Jimbo) 16:21, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] I-375 Notice
On the exit list table, I have marked the I-375 on-ramp from southbound I-275 as "Temporarly Closed" as indicated by the maroon text. This is a result of a tanker fire that has closed the I-375 flyover from SB I-275. More info can be obtained from the reference links on the I-375 page. Wslupecki 14:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC).
