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Contents 1 V for Vendetta (film) 2 Split infinitive 3 Why did you ban Albinomite? 4 FAR talk page 5 Help 6 FA template - kicking and screaming 7 Addition of the word "theory". 8 List of palms of the Caribbean 9 FA bot, and FAC/FAR multi-template 10 Check this out 11 Untagged image 12 Fauna/Feliz Año 13 Fauna of Puerto Rico 14 Barnstar: Puerto Rico National Merit Medal 15 FAR stuff 16 Speaking of closing FARs... 17 RE:Desecheo Island 18 ALBIZU VIVE 19 Gimmebot 20 Location Maps 21 Kakapo 22 List of barrios and sub-barrios removed 23 Puerto Rico 24 FA and FFA bot counters 25 Bird Feature Article 26 FAC 27 Article Assessment 28 Article Assessment 29 Response...

[edit] V for Vendetta (film)

The FAR was closed and removed by UKPhoenix79 (talk • contribs) without Badlydrawnjeff (talk • contribs) indicating whether his concerns had been met, and without consensus of other reviewers. I've reinstated the nom and re-added the template to the talk page (it was simply removed, rather than changed to reviewed), and left a message to badlydrawnjeff (twice) to pls indicate if his concerns have been addressed. Going to leave a message for UKPhoenix next. Best, Sandy (Talk) 14:05, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Split infinitive

Joel—This guy has just agreed to look at the article, so I'm emailing him the link now. Will let you know. Tony 00:32, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why did you ban Albinomite?

Friend, you've done a grave injustice. Albinomite is a great defender of the Castilian language, Spanish culture and traditions, and the Roman Catholic faith. I strongly urge you to reconsider. Do not dishonor your roots letting this block stand. ¡Arriba España, su heroica historia y glorioso porvenir!--Cupidon 19:04, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Friend, I beg to differ and plus you did not give him adequate warning, you must bear in mind he was new to wikipedia and had also suffered multiple ad hominem attacks from an obstreperous user known as sugaar and his self-described anarchic associate wobble, these two are unabashedly spreading dangerous and vile Communistic propaganda across wikipedia. Listen to your heart and do your glorious Christian-Hispanic heritage proud. ¡Arriba España, su heroica historia y glorioso porvenir!--Cupidon 11:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FAR talk page

Be sure to check in on the FAR talk page - also, on Former featured articles, I'm not sure, but you may have mixed up Mark Antony and Aspasia?? Sandy (Talk) 23:30, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help

Hi Joel I need a hand. On WP:GA/R, we've noticed an admin has passed several of his own articles for GA such as Graniteville train disaster, which'll probably be delisted by the time you read this. When I try reporting the user, the userpage link keeps appearing in red. Can you help? LuciferMorgan 22:45, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Ignore this.. it's been resolved now. Apparently the criteria wasn't in place when they were passed. Thanks anyway. LuciferMorgan 23:08, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FA template - kicking and screaming

See my comments here. Also, the new bot will require some sort of admin permission, if anyone ever does it. Sandy (Talk) 00:14, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

There is talk of a bot, so Raul asks that we give it time - but do bots have to run by admins only? [1] Sandy (Talk) 00:21, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Addition of the word "theory".

What problem do you have with an addition of the word "theory"?

I have not included any mention of creationism.

You are disingenuous and dishonest if you keep removing this addition. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sparrows point (talk • contribs) 00:47, 11 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] List of palms of the Caribbean

Hi. I was wondering if you might have a look at List of palms of the Caribbean and see what you think of it. I am especially interested in what you think of the format - do you like the distributions the way they are formatted, do you think the comments at the end of the genus sections are useful (and do you think they would be better at the top of the section, or as they are at the end)? Thanks for your input. Guettarda 20:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FA bot, and FAC/FAR multi-template

Just to make sure you're following both discussions: this one started on my talk page (now archived, with Raul's input), after Bodyline and Hero of Belarus were re-promoted, and we got more complaints about having no FAC/FAR template;[2] and I suggested using the FA counter bot to count former featured articles. [3] Sandy (Talk) 17:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

The Featured article and the Former featured article counters are done and installed - the only number that still has to be tracked is the repromoted articles on Former featured articles. Best, Sandy (Talk) 16:02, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Check this out

Check out this entery in the Portal:Puerto Rico/Did you know

"That Puerto Rico is not a country, but is a Commonwealth of the United States?" and

"That Puerto Rico has never been a country?"

I don't know, but that doesn't make any sense to me. What do you think? Tony the Marine 06:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Untagged image

An image you uploaded, Image:Carolina seal.gif, was tagged with the {{coatofarms}} copyright tag. This tag was deleted because it does not actually specify the copyright status of the image. The image may need a more accurate copyright tag, or it may need to be deleted. If the image portrays a seal or emblem, it should be tagged as {{seal}}. If you have any questions, ask them at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. -- 16:50, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fauna/Feliz Año

Joelito, Feliz Año ! Where are you? Fauna of Puerto Rico is going on the main page on 10 January. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:39, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I notice from Sandy's talk you're on a bit of a break. Hope all is well and that you have a good new year. Marskell 07:52, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fauna of Puerto Rico

Hi Joelr31,

Congrats for getting the Fauna of Puerto Rico page to FA status. It is a fantastic article! I am working on getting Ohio Wesleyan University to FA status. Do you have the time to take a look and let me know what you think? I noticed on your article even user Tony1 was very supportive. Great job! WikiprojectOWU 20:10, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar: Puerto Rico National Merit Medal

For those whose contributions and dedication to articles regarding Puerto Rico, above and beyond from what is normally expected, have helped provide a positive image of the island.

Joel, we haven't been in touch for sometime. I see that you have been very busy lately. I created special exclusive award and I can't think of anyone more deserving then you to be the first recipient of the award. Your wonderful articles on the Flora and Fauna of Puerto Rico are only an example of the excellent work that you have done.

This award, unlike a regular barnstar, will only be awarded to those who dedication to articles related to Puerto Rico has been above and beyond the call of duty. If you know of others who would merit such recognition please feel free to honor them. I fully trust your judgment.

Tu Hermano, Tony the Marine 01:08, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FAR stuff

LuciferMorgan suggested I message you with a concern I have. I've also contacted Marskell, but he is not available. A relatively new user, Diez2, has been delisting articles in FARC without discussing it with anybody who regularly contributes there. While most of the articles would probably have been delisted eventually, at least one was a bit contentious, and discussions were still ongoing. I messaged Diez2, and he replied he was involving himself in all maintenance areas of Wikipedia, and was doing it in order to learn how to delist. Additionally, he has been doing it in a haphazard manner, not taking all of the steps (removing the star from the article, delisting it from the Featured Article list, etc.). I have cleaned up all of the unfinished work, but feel that because FAR is such a sensitive area, it is a task that should be carried out thoughtfully. Can you look at the history of FAR, and the talk pages of myself and Diez2? Maybe I am overreacting, but as I said, I feel FAR is a very sensitive area of Wikipedia and want to make sure it is handled appropriately. Thanks. Jeffpw 20:12, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speaking of closing FARs...

Are you back to full-time editing? Hope the new job is going well. I've just been closing everything under the assumption your time is limited, as you did while I was away. Cheers, Marskell 19:23, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

"I will never be back to full editing or to the level of editing before I started my job." That greatly saddens me! You will be missed in the mainspace. I hope for you it means new challenges in your career. I will see around the FAs anyhow, and I know you won't be able to resist looking at fauna articles (I was thinking of trying another animal FA, myself). Marskell 21:25, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Desecheo Island

Thanks for the reply. The guy in question is a complete fruitloop, but it's always good to get confirmation. Many thanks again. doktorb _words^deeds 06:58, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ALBIZU VIVE

¡Viva Puerto Rico Libre! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.45.64.120 (talk) 01:29, 25 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Gimmebot

Hey Joel. Per the discussions on FAR talk, we don't have to place the templates on the article talk page anymore. Simply move it to the archive and Gimmebot will take care of it with the Article History template. I believe the bot will also take care of the star on the article page, but am waiting to confirm that. We must still update WP:FA and WP:FFA. Marskell 06:03, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Location Maps

On the WikiProject Countries talk page, you had either explictly declared a general interest in the project, or had participated at a discussion that appears related to Location Maps for European countries.
New maps had been created by David Liuzzo, and are available for the countries of the European continent, and for countries of the European Union exist in two versions. From November 16, 2006 till January 31, 2007, a poll had tried to find a consensus for usage of 'old' or of which and where 'new' version maps. At its closing, 25 people had spoken in favor of either of the two presented usages of new versions but neither version had reached a consensus (12 and 13), and 18 had preferred old maps.
As this outcome cannot justify reverting of new maps that had become used for some countries, seconds before February 5, 2007 a survey started that will be closed at February 20, 2007 23:59:59. It should establish whether the new style maps may be applied as soon as some might become available for countries outside the European continent (or such to depend on future discussions), and also which new version should be applied for which countries.
Please note that since January 1, 2007 all new maps became updated by David Liuzzo (including a world locator, enlarged cut-out for small countries) and as of February 4, 2007 the restricted licence that had jeopardized their availability on Wikimedia Commons, became more free. The subsections on the talk page that had shown David Liuzzo's original maps, now show his most recent design.
Please read the discussion (also in other sections α, β, γ, δ, ε, ζ, η, θ) and in particular the arguments offered by the forementioned poll, while realizing some comments to have been made prior to updating the maps, and all prior to modifying the licences, before carefully reading the presentation of the currently open survey. You are invited to only then finally make up your mind and vote for only one option.
There mustnot be 'oppose' votes; if none of the options would be appreciated, you could vote for the option you might with some effort find least difficult to live with - rather like elections only allowing to vote for one of several candidates. Obviously, you are most welcome to leave a brief argumentation with your vote. Kind regards. — SomeHuman 7 Feb 2007 20:19 (UTC)

[edit] Kakapo

Hi. User:Marskell directed me to you because you're great with "taxa". Kakapo is on featured article review right now, and will be kept most likely. A lot of good work has been dumped into the article, but we're having trouble on the final copy-edit. Several users have given it a runthrough, but we are afraid that it's missing a final touch. Plus, there are some inline queries that someone like you might be able to address. If you could give it a pass, that would be great. Thanks! — Deckiller 14:49, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of barrios and sub-barrios removed

So you removed my well-researched list. Why didn't the previous, messy, grossly incomplete list bother you? Actually, the list is only a start. It will be expanded to one or more tables with area and population figures. That is, unless it would bother you. If my contributions are not appreciated, I go somewhere else.--Ratzer 21:55, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

It's nothing personal but sections under construction are best kept out of an article until they are finished. Plus prose is better than bulleted lists. Joelito (talk) 22:08, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Please keep the discussion where it started. Nobody can follow it if you answer on my talk page. As to your response, I think I disagree with you on a philosophical level. It is my conviction that in Wikipedia nothing is ever finished. Anything can still be improved. Which means that there are only unfinished sections. An operational definition of "finished" will always be arbitrary. In addition, I find that a list, better yet a table, provides a better overview than prose. Why is prose better than bulletet lists then?--Ratzer 20:33, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Bullets interrupt the flow of an article. A well-written article does not need lists. Joelito (talk) 22:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Joel is right - the bulleted lists are too long and they break up the flow of the article. Have you considered making them into a list independent of the article? With respect to the "Under construction" sections - you shouldn't label a section as "under construction" in a Wikipedia article. On one hand, everything is "under construction" (and always will be), on the other hand, when you have a fairly "mature" article, small, under-developed sections aren't helpful and detract from the overall appearance of the article. Guettarda 23:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I concede to you guys. I did already move the bulleted list to an article of its own, which was a very good idea.--Ratzer 17:46, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Puerto Rico

Why did you delete see also section in Puerto Rico? why did you delete the political parties? Cjrs 79 05:46, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I figured that's why you did it, bt i figured it out a lot latter. sory. Cjrs 79 01:59, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FA and FFA bot counters

Epa, Joel, the bot counters for FAs and FFAs have been busted for a LONG time, nothing is happening, tired of waiting for it to be fixed, see note on Marskell's page. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:44, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bird Feature Article

Hello! I'm trying to raise Bird to feature article status from its present good article classification. Any suggestions or help would be appreciated............Thanks..Pmeleski 02:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FAC

A new one. Any feedback appreciated. Marskell 12:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article Assessment

Hey, Joel. The Puerto Rico Article Assessment page is up and running. I created all the necessary categories and links, ran the bot, and it seems to be running smoothly. Do you mind checking it out?

Also, I see you single-handedly edited the {{PuertoRicoproj}} template to conform with the Assessment guidelines. Your work was crucial for this thing to work, so, on behalf of the community, thanks for taking the time and effort. Cheers, man... you deserve it.- Mtmelendez ^{(Talk|UB|Home)} 01:17, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For his important yet uncredited contribution to the Puerto Rico Article Assessment process. Mtmelendez (Talk|UB|Home) 01:17, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, I know its a little late, but...

		The Fauna Barnstar
		For his invaluable contributions to the Fauna of Puerto Rico, List of Puerto Rican birds, and List of Vieques birds articles, bringing them all to Featured status. Mtmelendez (Talk|UB|Home) 01:17, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article Assessment

Both you and Mtmelendez have done a great job with the Article Assessment project. I remember that when I nominated you for adminship, I predicted that you would make a great admin. Little did I know then how right I was. Too bad that we haven't kept in touch. Tony the Marine 21:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Joelito, we need to talk. Please see the assessment talk page. You and Tony have brought a very important concern regarding consensus on the importance scale. I erred in trying to assess articles based on the importance scale and conventions when the scale is ambigous, at best. Since you and Tony are by far the most experienced editors in the project, I now feel you guys should review the conventions I posted before continuing. I've stopped assessing until this is settled. Sorry for the trouble. - Mtmelendez ^{(Talk|UB|Home)} 00:12, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Response...

I've responded to your well-founded concerns. Please check it out. I'll be back tomorrow to continue this discussion. Thanks. - Mtmelendez ^{(Talk|UB|Home)} 01:19, 1 April 2007 (UTC)