Talk:List of London railway stations

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Can we have a clarification of which definition of "London" is being used - is this the travelcard zone, the "London Connections" rail map (either of these two is more likely to be thought of as London from a rail POV) or the GLA boundaries?

Timrollpickering

I think this is as likely a a clarification of which definition of "London" is being used. North of the River and inside the A406?

mikebristow

I really cannot believe it when, in order to contain an area in which to consider railways, we are to expect a line drawn by a river and a road to be the perimeter! Most Londoners travelling by suburban trains would ignore all non-railway definitions, and use instead the way the railways themselves consider the definition of a London suburban train service. That would certainly include a huge amount of South London, and would probably reach out into most of the perepheral counties. It makes no sense at all to limit the stations to those in London Boroughs for example, as is done here, since a good many of them are simply part of a suburban service. As an example, the Shepperton branch out of Waterloo has six stations in its short length. By the criteria being adopted here, the first two station are in London, the last four are not. It is part of the anxiety to explain where places are, I believe: so Fulwell and Hampton railway stations is in (they're in the Borough of Richmond), but Sunbury and Shepperton railway stations (in a vague area called Spelthorne according to each individual article) are not - yet all are connected by the branch line - in railway terms a much more useful designation. Peter Shearan 17:58, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Limits of London 2 Extra closed stations 3 Table mess 4 Split

[edit] Limits of London

I think a useful definition for London railways at this stage would be those covered by the London travel card zones, with a few extensions (eg termini one stop beyond, or normal travelling loops). Possibly the M25 if appropriate.

There are somewhat more closed stations than those given. Jackiespeel 17:01, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Extra closed stations

I have added a number of additional closed stations to the list based upon checks with Victorian and Edwardian railway maps. There may well be more! DavidCane 01:26, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

There are *definitely* many more closed stations (and several books on the subject). Jackiespeel 19:06, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Table mess

The Closed stations table looks very confused:

1). Most stations closed well before the introduction of the travelcard farezones. The table just leaves an ugly blank there - maybe a N/A would work best?

2). Some of the "replace by" entries are weird. Saying that Holborn Viaduct was replaced by City Thameslink is clear - one closed and the other opened almost overnight. Saying that a railway line closed in the 1940s was "replaced" because a DLR service opened in the neighbourhood fifty years later is a very different thing. Also often a station is shut down because improvements to a neighbouring existing station have enhanced its capacity - not really a "this station replaced that one" scenario. Can we limited "replaced by" to explicit replacement stations?

Timrollpickering 15:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Also the "local authority" section is meaningless - a lot of stations closed before the 1965 reorganisation and some before the late 1880s. A placename for the area should suffice. Timrollpickering 15:23, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Split

It is a rather long list and so should be split. Maybe reasons similar to List of closed railway stations in Britain's split. Simply south 20:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I don't see anything to split here. --Voyager 11:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)