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Contents 1 Please add this part from yahoo news, regarding comfort women 2 Comfort Women 3 Protected 4 External links (From Japan)

[edit] Please add this part from yahoo news, regarding comfort women

Here is some additional information, please add it to the article:

"Historians say at least 200,000 young women, mostly from Korea but also from China, Indonesia, the Philippines and Taiwan, were forced to serve as sex slaves in Japanese army brothels.

In 1993, the Japanese government issued a statement voicing "sincere apologies and remorse" and acknowledging that Japan's imperial army was involved "directly or indirectly" in sexual slavery.

A left-leaning government in 1995 set up a fund to compensate former comfort women. But it uses money collected by private donations, leading many victims to shun it. " http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070219/pl_afp/japanuspoliticswwii;_ylt=AixoXFjWs7O4pC8N1d2CxugBxg8F

-intranetusa

[edit] Comfort Women

The final main section, comfort women (sic), is rather choppy and unclear at the moment. I would change it, to smooth out the English, but i'm not entirely sure what it is trying to say at certain points; also, i don't have the original quotes to refer to (which i think must be misquoted, unless Congressman Honda speaks poorly). Can someone with knowledge clean this up a bit? Cheers, Lindsay 22:37, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Agreed! I just added an NPOV tag to this section. Not only is the section unclear and written in poor English grammatical style, it also appears to contain unsubstantiated assertions about the validity of his claim and "Korean" claim. --InformationalAnarchist 15:23, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

We should minimize the references to Korean newspaper articles that the Japanese editors keep pushing. The Japanese editors are not fluent in Korean OR English and their sentences are horribly mistranslated. There should be no need to resort to obscure foreign language sources at all, as there are plenty of articles about Honda in reputable English newspapers. Even the quote and foreign language citation that I kept from the old version should really be replaced with a better English source. ThreesCompany 15:39, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

For those interested:

• http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/ca15_honda/COMFORTWOMEN.html Honda's own position
• http://thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Business/010307_honda.html
• http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2007-02-16T004301Z_01_N15213227_RTRUKOC_0_US-JAPAN-USA-SEXSLAVES.xml&pageNumber=1&imageid=&cap=&sz=13&WTModLoc=NewsArt-C1-ArticlePage1
• http://www.asiapacificnews.net/story/227595

This should provide enough solid source material for one paragraph here. ThreesCompany 17:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

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Since it receives by Following URL, please give me an argument in Japanese well.

• (Japanese) http://likecoffee.iza.ne.jp/blog/entry/118859/
• (Japanese) <insistence>The rebuttal in the real positive Cot of comfort woman resolution relation
• (Japanese) The comfort woman resolution of the Aso Foreign Minister and the U.S. House of Representatives"It is not a fact. "
• (Japanese) It is a comfort woman, and grounds are assembly member HONDA of "Kono conversation" resolution submitting.
• (Japanese) "Kono conversation" is an appeal U.S. comfort woman resolution from compulsion and South Korea.

LikeCoffee 01:40, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Protected

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[edit] External links (From Japan)

It is a counterargument link from Japan. Please do not erase. LikeCoffee 00:35, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Those links concern Comfort Women and there are simply too many here, creating undue weight on this point of view. If you want to enlighten the world about Comfort Women, take it to that article's talkpage. This article is about Mike Honda, not Comfort Women and those links should not dominate the external links section. oncamera^(t) 00:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

A Japanese link is a thing for a counterargument of comfort women. The man in the world has misunderstanding about comfort women's actual condition. Why doesn't the link for dispelling misunderstanding arrange? It is not good to hide what has bad convenience. LikeCoffee 00:47, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

There are too many links. Why should there be a "counter-point" to the issue of Comfort Women that adheres to your point-of view? Take it to the Comfort Women article. oncamera^(t) 00:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

mike honda tends to be danced to China, tends to take up a comfort-women problem, and tends to look down upon Japan. Estrangement of Japan and the U.S. is aimed at. Those things became a problem very much in Japan. Since it is dotted with the link of the opinion of Japan, it is in the situation which cannot be refuted as much links not being shown. Please understand. LikeCoffee 00:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

His biography must adhere to the guidelines and policies. If you, or a number of editors in Japan, do not agree with what he does, that doesn't mean you place as many external links as you can on his article. Creating undue weight of an issue to your POV is unacceptable. oncamera^(t) 00:57, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Please do not erase until an argument finishes. LikeCoffee 01:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

What argument besides your POV? If you have sources, write it into the article and cite it instead of adding external links. oncamera^(t) 01:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Present Whatever Comfort Women may write in, it will be returned. A report cannot be written actually. Since External links is not erased POV is added. LikeCoffee 01:11, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Hm, I'm not sure what you mean. But this article is about Mike Honda. This article is not about Comfort Women. oncamera^(t) 01:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

mike honda It is used for China and the comfort-women problem is taken up. Comfort Women Would you make it write to a section? Although it is glad if it is possible, it will be immediately erased by many editors. We should just do what. LikeCoffee 01:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

All It is a report about mike honda. LikeCoffee 01:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

The section about Comfort Women already mentions how he received donation money from Anti-Japanese groups. Is there a newspaper article in English I could read to understand this about China? oncamera^(t) 01:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

It is not written how donation money was still received from the anti-Japan organization. It will be erased if it writes. Would you write? LikeCoffee 01:28, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I need a reliable source for how much money. oncamera^(t) 01:31, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

This organization is good at fabrication half a day, in order to look down upon Japan. It is scribbling off without reliable sauce just as it likes. Sankei Shimbun is the news source whose reliance is most possible in Japan in a Japanese newspaper publishing company. Sankei Shimbun reaches. Since it is fully reliable, please refer to the report of IZA. Though regrettable, Japan has few Anglicized reliable newspaper articles. LikeCoffee 01:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Can you post a link in Japanese from a reliable Japanese newspaper (read: ja:Wikipedia:Attribution)? Is it this article [1]? Instruct me what to look for, and I will add it to the article, if possible. oncamera^(t) 01:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

It is in the external link which you erased. http://www.iza.ne.jp/news/newsarticle/natnews/topics/43325/ LikeCoffee 01:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

How much was it he recieved? $110,000? And was the name of the anti-Japanese group? oncamera^(t) 01:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

yes LikeCoffee 02:01, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Please also refer to this report. http://www.sankei.co.jp/kokusai/usa/070323/usa070323006.htm LikeCoffee 02:05, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, Well, I made an edit adding in the donation amount. Can you explain to me this article? Translate the important part of it, please. oncamera^(t) 02:10, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Just this is enough. A problem is anxious about whether it is erased by the writer of anti-Japan. LikeCoffee 02:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

It has a source, so how can they erase it? Anyway, I apologize for not understanding at first. oncamera^(t) 02:22, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Since there are many people who rewrite without a basis or delete, I am troubled. I am glad to understand and get just here. It is wishing that at least one person of the direction which understands a position of Japan increases. LikeCoffee 02:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)