Talk:New York State Thruway

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

	New York State Thruway is part of the New York State routes WikiProject, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to NYSDOT numbered routes in New York State. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
B	This article has been rated as B-Class on the quality scale. (add assessment comments)
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the importance scale.

I changed freeway to expressway, though I'm not even sure that that's the best term. You don't hear the term freeway much in New York -- and its definitely not free to drive on. The term expressway seems to be limied to certain urban areas. I'd always considered the Thruway as a limited-access or interstate highway with tolls. The Expressway article does link to Freeway which discusses differences in terminology. Nonenmac 18:38, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

After discussing this with some other Thruway users and reading related Wikipedia articles, I changed expressway to highway which is more general and seems to fit. Nonenmac 21:24, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 Exit list 2 Major junctions 3 Redesign 4 I dont get it

[edit] Exit list

Exits are numbered from New York City north to Albany (I-87) and then west through Buffalo to Pennsylvania (I-90).

Mile[1]	#	Destinations	Notes
	1	Hall Place; McLean Avenue
	2	Yonkers Avenue - Raceway	northbound exit and southbound entrance
	3	Mile Square Road	southbound exit is combined with exit 4
	4	Cross County Parkway
	5	NY Route 100 - Central Park Avenue; White Plains	northbound exit and southbound entrance
	6	Tuckahoe Road - Bronxville; Yonkers	split into 6E (east) and 6W (west) southbound
	6A	Stew Leonard Drive
		barrier toll
	7	NY Route 9A - Ardsley	northbound exit and southbound entrance
	7A	Saw Mill River Parkway north; Taconic State Parkway	northbound exit only
	7A	Saw Mill River Parkway south	southbound exit and northbound entrance
	8A	NY Route 119 - Saw Mill Parkway north; Elmsford	northbound exit is combined with exit 8
	8	Interstate 287 east - Cross Westchester Expressway; White Plains; Rye	I-287 joins northbound and leaves southbound
	9	U.S. Route 9 - Tarrytown
	10	U.S. Route 9W - Nyack; South Nyack	no southbound exit
	11	U.S. Route 9W - Nyack; South Nyack (NY Route 59)
	12	NY Route 303 - West Nyack
	13	Palisades Parkway - Bear Mountain; New Jersey	split into 13N (north) and 13S (south)
	14	NY Route 59 - Spring Valley; Nanuet
	14A	Garden State Parkway - New Jersey
	14B	Airmont Road - Montebello; Airmont
	15	Interstate 287 south; Route 17 south - New Jersey	I-287 joins southbound and leaves northbound; NY 17 joins northbound and leaves southbound
	15A	NY Route 17 north; NY Route 59 - Sloatsburg; Suffern	NY 17 joins southbound and leaves northbound
	16	U.S. Route 6; NY Route 17 - Harriman (future Interstate 86)
	17	NY Route 17K; NY Route 300; Interstate 84 - Middletown; Newburgh; Stewart Airport
	18	NY Route 299 - New Paltz; Poughkeepsie
	19	NY Route 28 - Kingston; Rhinecliff Bridge (Interstate 587)
	20	NY Route 32 - Saugerties; Woodstock
	21	NY Route 23 - Catskill
	21B	U.S. Route 9W to NY Route 81 - Coxsackie
	21A	to Interstate 90 east; to Massachusetts Turnpike - Boston, MA (Berkshire Connector)
	22	NY Route 396; NY Route 144 - Selkirk
	23	Interstate 787; U.S. Route 9W - Albany; Troy; Rensselaer
	24	Interstate 87 north; Interstate 90 east - Albany; Montreal, QC	I-87 joins southbound and leaves northbound; I-90 joins westbound and leaves eastbound

[edit] Major junctions

I was planning on taking care of this issue when I cleaned up the article as a whole at some point, but we can definitely take care of it now. Here's what I would do: simply toss the I-90 and I-87 spurs (how can a spur be a major junction for its parent route?). I-390 could be an exception, as it does not terminate at I-90, continuing south from Rochester to I-86/NY 17. That will cut it down to seven junctions. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 00:15, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree but I'd keep the I-87/I-90 Junction. That'll make eight, thats fine. Jgcarter 00:22, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I counted the I-87/I-90 junction in Albany in my list but I forgot about the GSP (oops). Here are the junctions I intended on keeping:

• NY 400 in Buffalo
• I-390 in Henrietta (near Rochester)
• I-81 in Syracuse
• I-88 near Schenectady
• I-87/I-90 in Albany
• I-84 in Newburgh
• NY 17 in Harriman
• GSP in Ramapo

--TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 00:59, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, sounds good what what about the Palisades Interstate Parkway or the Mass Pike? Jgcarter 01:02, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I'd say yes to the PIP but no to the Mass Pike. As you know, the Mass Pike connects to the Berkshire Connector, not the mainline. Now, I don't have an issue with adding the Mass Pike but if we add it, then someone could conceivably add the Queen Elizabeth Way in Buffalo, where it connects to Thruway I-190. So, my reasoning is that we should limit the junctions in the infobox to those on the mainline. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 01:07, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh right...I forgot. Beides, access is also provided at the 87-90 junction anyway, right? So yeah to the PIP, no to the Mass Pike. Jgcarter 01:33, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redesign

I'm working on a redesign of this page at User:TwinsMetsFan/New York State Thruway. Comments/suggestions are appreciated. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 01:39, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Very nice! Jgcarter 01:55, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Status report: all of the "Notes" section has been incorporated into other sections of the article and the Route description has been expanded to include all parts of the Thruway system. All that remains is to rework the mainline exit list (on my page) and the I-287 and I-95 exit lists (on their pages) and, once that's done, the article should be ready to move over. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 04:53, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Great work there. I just have one minor nit. The New England Thruway is not toll-free, although it is tolled northbound only. Also, wouldn't it be better to link to New England Thruway rather than Interstate 95 in New York? Other than this it looks good to go. --Polaron | Talk 05:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the report and the compliments. I will fix the statement regarding tolls on the NET to (hopefully) be more accurate. As for the New England Thruway, I would've linked there had I known the article existed. Now that I'm aware of its existence, I'll clean that article up instead of I-95 in NY. Speaking of which, an article probably exists for most (if not all) segments of I-95 in NY (including the Cross-Bronx Expressway and the Bruckner Expressway), so I'll begin cleaning those up as well and start outsourcing overly specific information from I-95 in NY to the appropriate article. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 21:03, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

One bit of critique; you seem to alternate between "Main Article: XXX" and "More Information: XXX". Otherwise, Im VERY impressed!!!! Jgcarter 21:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

OK, I've attempted to rectify the concerns above, both regarding the NET and the main article links. As always, comments/questions are welcome. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 02:51, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and one more thing: The Thruway runs northwest/southeast. You list it as just east/west. Perhaps you should list it more accurate in the infobox. Dont mean to be nitpicking ;o) Jgcarter 03:26, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not a big fan of listing the Thruway's orientation as northwest/southeast, nor am I a fan of making it purely west/east. The problem lies within the shape of the mainline, which runs east-west for a much longer distance than it does north-south. The best option would probably be to say west/south for the orientation. This has been done in the past for NY 17, which has an even less-pronounced north-south section. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 03:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Content has been merged. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 15:08, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I dont get it

I'm trying to understand how I-84 is part of the NY State Thruway.. -- Johnny Albert 13:05, 16 Febraury 2007 (UTC)

NYSDOT transferred maintenance of I-84 over to the NYSTA in 1991 for maintenance reasons.[1] The process to return I-84 to the DOT began with the removal of the tolls on I-190 in Buffalo in 2006. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 21:28, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Ohh. Okay i sort of get it. -- Johnny Albert 22:24, 16 February 2007 (UTC)