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[edit] Votes for deletion

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[edit] Prodded articles

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[edit] Old City

I came across an article about one of the gates of the walls of the old city, and was wondering if it would be okay to create a new 'old city' cat and move everything related into it, instead of having these articles in the main cat:

Gates in Jerusalem's Old City Walls Gihon Spring The Golden Gate The Jaffa Gate Jerusalem's Old City walls

Monastery of the Cross New Gate (Jerusalem) Phasael tower Shiloah inscription

The Zion Gate Tower of David Tower of Siloam Tyropoeon Valley Via Dolorosa Well of Souls Western Wall

--Shuki 21:21, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] need for new stubs

I think we should expand the number of Israel stubs, too much is getting lumped into the main one. {{Israel-stub}}

{{Israeli-political-party stubs}} - about 20

{{Israeli-culture-stub}} - about 20

{{Israeli-economics-finance-stub}} - >20

posted here WP:WSS/P as well.

-- Shuki 23:40, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I think it should be singular stub not plural stubs. Also, would {{Israeli-politics stub}} be better than {{Israeli-political-party stubs}}? ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 00:22, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Looks like it's not gonna happen. Not enough stubs, <60. I suppose that I'll retract it. --Shuki 20:58, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV pushing in Israel-related science articles

User:Thameen, who has been disruptive on a variety of pages about Palestinian terrorism, has created dozens of articles talking about an "Israel Palestine," complete with a self-created sea-to-sea map of the region. I moved one to Biodiversity in Israel (compare Biodiversity in Israel Palestine), but there are apparently dozens more judging by the links on that page; this appears to be a job for a bot, which is beyond my ken. Cheers. -- FRCP11 08:53, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Israeli members of Knesset

The name of this new cat seems awkward. Wouldn't it be more suitable to simply call it Category:Members of Knesset? --Shuki 19:56, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Definitely more suitable, this really looks weird. Of course MKs are Israelis. --Daniel575 19:29, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. I will propose it at the CFD. -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 14:58, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Congrats: Category:Members of the Knesset --Shuki 19:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Qassam rocket

Something is brewing to turn this article into relating dry weapons-specification only and leave out the story behind it. For FWIW, I'd appreciate any input on that talk page whichever way you think it should go. Thanks. --Shuki 19:27, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kfar Gil'adi attack

I know this is a request, but something along these lines is badly needed for inclusion on the Main Page. I may try to start one up, but contributions would be quite welcome. Tewfik^Talk

[edit] Foreign relations pages

Please see Israel-Venezuela relations and Israel-New Zealand relations. They could both use the perspectives of Israelis. There appears to be a revived movement to merge the Israel-Ven relations page into Foreign relations of Venezuela so I urge other users to vote against this. Respectfully, Republitarian 19:17, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Israeli military issues

Please see [3]. If you're interested, feel free to use this section as a temporary staging area - unless you know a warmer place. ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 23:18, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Provided there are enough editors interested to join / to help, it makes sense to create Israeli military history task force. As for me... currently my primary interests lie elsewhere, but I'll try to help when possible. Bukvoed 19:45, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nazi POV pushing issues

Check here [4] and the talk page. Stormfront (website) Amoruso 23:50, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

The whole Iranian President issue : [5] Amoruso 01:47, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Palestinian POV pushing issues

user:Palmiro seems intent to blank out any material he doesn't like even when compltely sourced, reliable and verfiable, simply because he doesn't like it, on false pretexts such as "well poisoning". See here : [6]], Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - General Command, Rashid Khalidi, Ghassan Kanafani and more . Amoruso 23:32, 20 September 2006 (UTC) Amoruso 23:50, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Funny you should see the need to post this here, as none of these articles are about Israeli topics and I don't think any of the issues that arose in them were about Israel either (except the relevance of some of Rashid Khalidi's alleged views about Israel). I'd like to be able to make an offer that if you stop POV-pushing in articles about Palestinian topics, I'd stop doing so in articles about Israeli topics - but unfortunately, I've never been doing that, and neither have any of the other long-standing contributors to Palestinian subjects as far as i know. An interesting contrast to your behaviour, perhaps? Palmiro | Talk 21:41, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Of course these issues have to do with Israel. Palestinian terrorism often is. And it's you and other Israel-haters who have tried to whitewash the despicable acts of hamas and PLO against Israel. Amoruso 22:05, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Israeli MIA prisoner exchanges

More than half the article is about Israeli MIAs, not the prisoner exchanges. --Shuki 22:26, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Caste system in Israel

Anyone want to comment on this article besides the need for cleanup? --Shuki 22:36, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

It should at least be moved to Caste system in ancient Israel, but I don't know much about the subject matter to heavily edit the article. -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 04:22, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't "Caste System" most specifically apply to Hindu societies? The wikipedia article about it would suggest not, but there are no refs. Everywhere I've lived in Asia, it was a hindu thing, but I"m not a scholar in the area by any means and could be completely wrong. In any case, there is also a "priestly class" in those societies, Brahimns, but other groups also confined to certain occupations by family of birth, notably the persecuted "untouchables". This article seems like Israeli Aparteid, and attempt to use a politically charged term to demonize Israel in people's minds. Next, we'll be hearing about the Palestinians being "untouchables" in the Israeli Caste System. Ridiculous. Elizmr 19:57, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Templates

Would anyone be opposed to mirroring the He Wiki's usage of templates to organise regional council's and their constituent communities (like these [7][8])? Please let me know what you think. Cheers, Tewfik^Talk 22:07, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Excellant idea. Do you need help? --Shuki 23:28, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

This should definitely be done, but IMO at a later stage since we'll just have 95% red links right now. -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 00:34, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I've managed to put together a template of all regional councils (which probably needs renaming), as well as individual temps for Gush Etzion Regional Council and Shomron Regional Council, though the Gush Etzion one may have colouration issues, and the Shomron's Hebrew counterpart (interwikiied) has a פרבר distinction which I couldn't find evidence for in the yishuv articles (and two of them explicitly say יישוב קהילתי, though two also make mention of עירוני). I'm finishing Menashe Regional Council, which is the only other council with enough communities to make a template worthwhile for now. I'm also curious about how best to list the councils in the former template; I put the two "Jordan Valley" councils next to each other (instead of Biq'at and Emek), though the Upper and Lower Galilee are separate. I also tried to standardise some of the spelling... Let me know what you think. Cheers, Tewfik^Talk 07:05, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

awesome. I thought why "settlements" mostly made by the excellent awesome work of Shuki didn't have a template yet. Amoruso 17:46, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Finally done, though there seems to be some kind of issue with the width on {{Center District (Israel)}}. Tewfik^Talk 05:44, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

On the contrary, I changed the width there before having it narrow wastes precious vertical space. I have not had the time to change the width on the other templates. I apologize if there was a good reason for the previous width. If not, every related template's width should be changed to a wider variant. -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 19:12, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Thats fine. I didn't have any specific reason, and your idea seems to be a good one. Tewfik^Talk 16:10, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

On a different note, I added Category:Tel Aviv District to the {{Tel Aviv District}} in the hopes of automatically categorising the pages it was on, but only one of them (Bat Yam) shows up. Also, some order needs to be made of the following categories: Category:Districts of Israel, Category:Subdivisions of Israel, Category:Regional councils in Israel, Category:Local government in Israel, Category:Settlements in Israel. Cheers, Tewfik^Talk 16:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind - it seems to have sorted itself out, Tewfik^Talk 20:37, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kfar Kanna

In the "North District" template in Kfar Kanna (and other atricles) there is a red link to Kfar Kama. However, there is an article about Kfar-Kama. Is this the one? Regards, Huldra 05:47, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

No, these are 2 differnt villages Isarig 22:49, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanks, but just to make this clear: are there three towns/villages ...or two? I understand that Kfar Kanna and Kfar-Kama are two different places (-the population size is quite different)...but I wondered about the red link (in the template): Kfar Kama, ..is that a third place? Regards, Huldra 23:38, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Btw, I got "involved" in this because I have tried to link up the Knesset-members Jamal Zahalka and Wasil Taha with their home-place...at the moment both link to Kfar Kanna....but with all these equal-sounding names (for me, anyway ;-) ), I´m really not sure if that is correct? Any help is appreciated. Regards, Huldra 23:51, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I see what you are askin. Kfar Kama and Kfar-Kama are the same village. Isarig 00:41, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much for you help; (one redir, and we got rid of all those red links). I assume the Knesset-members place of origin is correct (?)..at least Kfar Kanna is the largest place..if I´m wrong: please correct me. Regards, Huldra 00:59, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Since neither one of them is Circassian, I think it's safe to assume they're from Kfar Kanna. Isarig 01:11, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mar Elias Educational Institutions

Has anyone heard of an Israeli university of this name, proposed or otherwise? Tewfik^Talk 06:30, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Haven't heard of it, but it certainly isn't a university yet. If anything perhaps a college but this is not verified. --Shuki 06:46, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Birthright Israel

• There is an anon user at the Birthright page adding an extremely PoV "Controversy" section making totally outlandish claims. I came up with a compromise section, but the anon refuses to budge. Would someone please weigh in on the issue? Thanks. -- Chabuk ^{[ T • C ]} 21:11, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Districts of Israel

Admin KhoiKhoi rv any change not to his POV even against the consensus. Please visit talk page to add you opinion. Issue is about the map of the different districts. Israel has decided to name one district it administers - Judea and Samaria. Khoi claims this is POV and insists on keeping a map with Gaza, and UN 'territory' in Lebanon and Syria on the map. You know, maybe this admin is right where everyone else is wrong? --Shuki 22:59, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps. Khoikhoi 00:01, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shavit Bar-On Gal-On Tzin Nov Yagur

The prod has a point, what is the drop off point for NN? Age of establishment, # of employees? Some folks went through a lot of trouble to put together the Israeli law firm stubs, maybe it's tme for them to expand them? --Shuki 22:20, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tremping and Tremp Guide

Do these have a place on WP? The tremping should be merged with hitchhiking, the tremp guide deleted, at most put on wikitravel? --Shuki 22:58, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree with merging and transwikiing the relevant information. There is also Trempiada which could qualify to remain and possibly make brief mention of the culture. Tewfik^Talk 05:45, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

After seeing Slugging and Liftershalte, I think combining Tremping and Trempiada while transwikiing Tremp Guide to the World Wikia is the best course of action, I'll be doing that soon. Information from he:טרמפ should probably be added as well though. Tewfik^Talk 00:28, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

- I think to compromise, I will put all of the information having to do with tremping in a Tremping Guide page that will include all of it. Putting it all in trempiada is not ideal, and I will take care of it. Please do not delete the information I enter into wikipedia without just consulting me first, which couldn't hurt. - Flowingflag 10:51, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Law in Israel

This cat is probably going to be cleaned out soon due to a combination of two overeager non-Hebrew speaking editors and lack of law enthusiasts here to improve the stubs so this is probably just for the record. While some of these are NN, others are not. Online documentaion in English is sparse, and law journals are usually subscriber-only if even available on the net. The only current public ratings companies in this industry, D&B and BDI, are also questioned by these editors as NN. Three Afd's (another one has already 'succeeded', 10 others speedied) and other prods:

• AFD Eitan Law Group
• AFD Pearl Cohen Zedek Latzer
• AFD S. Horowitz & Co. - 3rd top firm.
• Ram Caspi - active Israeli businessman
• Michael Fox (lawyer)
• Orna Lin
• Amit, Pollak, Matalon & Co.
• Balter, Guth, Aloni & Co.
• Caspi & Co.
• Danziger, Klagsbald & Co.
• Erdinast, Ben-Nathan & Co.
• Fischer, Behar, Chen, Well, Orion & Co.
• Goldfarb, Levy, Eran, Meiri & Co.
• Gornitzky & Co. - one of the top ten firms
• Isachar Fischer
• Levitan, Sharon & Co.
• M. Firon & Co.
• M. Seligman & Co.
• Meitar Liquornik Geva & Leshem Brandwein
• Naschitz Brandes & Co.
• Peter Gad Naschitz
• S. Friedman & Co.
• Shiboleth, Yisraeli, Roberts, Zisman and Moshe H. Ne'eman, Ben-Artzi & Co.
• Yehuda Raveh & Co.
• Yigal Arnon & Co.
• Zysman, Aharoni, Gayer & Co.
• Zellermayer, Pelossof & Co.

Successful speedy deletes: Baratz, Horn & Co. | Berkman Wechsler Bloom Gazit & Co. | Haim Zadok & Co. | Gilat, Knoller, Graus & Co. | Lipa Meir & Co. | Orna Lin & Co. | Ron Gazit, Rotenberg & Co. | Shenhav, Elrom, Konforti & Shavit | Weksler, Bregman & Co. | Yaacov Salomon, Lipschutz & Co. --Shuki 01:46, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

Shalom. Category "Transportation of Israel" and its subcategories are now nominated at WP:CFD for renaming to "Transport" form. Please, feel free to comment or vote. - Darwinek 14:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] a request for guidelines on how to assess the reliability of a source in matters concerning Israel

I'd like to request that Project Israel determine guidelines on how to evaluate the reliability of a source in matters concerning Israel. Preferrably, these guidelines will include (1) a partial list of newspapers, magazines and organizations, whose publications are identified as reliable sources of information in Israel-related articles, (2) a procedure determining how this list is managed, e.g. how new items are suggested for inclusion, the circumstances under which new items can be added to the list, the criteria of eligibility for being included in the list, etc. I suggest somehow incorporating the Alexa rating into these guidelines. I also think that these guidelines should be worked out in tandem with Wikipedia:WikiProject Palestine.

More specifically, i wonder whether the online magazine israelinsider can be considered a reliable source of factual information. Please see discussion on talk:Azmi Bishara#israelinsider - i wonder how adequate it is as a source. Thanks Itayb 13:05, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Municipality merger

Any ideas for how to deal with the substituents of {{Israeli municipality merger of 2003}}? He wiki has chosen to redirect the former articles to the new names where they join the information. Any thoughts? Tewfik^Talk 01:46, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] posting recomposited map of Israel

Anyone care to comment on ChrisO's suggestion that a UN map be deleted because he did some touch up?

--Shuki 21:45, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I created both versions of the map. One person (so far!) seems to think there's a POV problem - if so, I'm happy to modify it. Please comment on Image talk:Israel and occupied territories map.png, where I've also explained the reasons for the recompositing. -- ChrisO 23:06, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

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