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[rediger] Sveer

• http://www.fortidensjelling.dk/jelling85.htm

«I de første slægtled bærer fyrsteætten nordiske navne, som let genkendes i den slaviske forklædning. Rurik er =Rørik, Oleg=Helge, Olga=Helga, Igor=Ingvar o.s.v.»

• http://www.vulkaner.no/f/ingjald.htm og en annen http://www.kulturreiser.no/reisene/kiev0307.asp

[rediger] Marstrander

Carl Johan Sverdrup Marstrander (født 1883, død 1965), var professor i keltiske språk ved Universitetet i Oslo og en av de største lingvister Norge har frambrakt.

Carl Marstrander er karakterisert som en av vår tids store humanistiske forskere, men han tok aldri noen universitetseksamen og i sin ungdom var han isteden kjent som en framragende idrettsmann innen stavsprang. Alt som skolegutt i Kristiansand hadde Marstrander på egen hånd skaffet seg litteratur i språklige problemer og var godt skolert i de klassiske språkene som gresk og latin. På Universitetet førte Sophus Bugge og Alf Torp ham inn i den sammenlignende språkvitenskapen og særlig i studiet av keltiske språk.

I 1906 ble tatt ut på den norske olympialaget til Athen. Professor Sophus Bugge kjente til Carl Marstranders intellektuelle kapasitet og skaffet ham et stipendium til Irland. Marstrander ga dermed opp en mulig gullmedalje i stavsprang til fordel for språkforskningen. Våren 1907 gikk Marstrander i land på øya Blasket utenfor Don Chuinn, helt syd i Irland.

The Islanders had little welcome for visitors until the beginning of the 20th Century. The memory of bailiffs and land agents was still vivid, and the harassment they suffered when the landlords sought rent was still ingrained. It was not at all surprising, therefore, that they would feel unwelcoming when the first famous visitor, J. M. Synge, arrived on the Island in 1905, although we have no other evidence for that except their own displeasure at his account of the visit afterwards which angered a few of them, especially in the King's home where he had stayed and which he never visited again.

The Norwegian Carl Marstrander was the next famous person to visit there in 1907. They called him "The Viking", apparently with affection, because from the first day he set foot on the Island he worked and laboured both on sea and land with them as one of their own. An Old Irish scholar and a linguist, he went to the Blasket to learn Modern Irish. Marstrander the Viking also stayed in the King's house and he was introduced to Tomás Ó Criomhthain within a short time. Tomás was the "professor" henceforth and Marstrander the pupil.

In many ways, Marstrander was an heroic figure, especially in his physical vigour and mental energy, and because of the way he fitted in with the Islanders he gave them a new perspective on life and instilled in them an esteem for their own culture. It could be said that it was he who kindled the living flame in them. But he left, and afterwards was appointed to teach Old Irish in the School of Celtic Studies in Dublin, where a young scholar from the British Museum came to read Old Irish under his tutelage. That scholar was Robin Flower, and before long the Viking had guided him towards the Blasket, and Tomás was recommended as his "professor". He arrived in 1910 and stayed in the King's house. Flower and Tomás worked diligently together and established a lasting rapport . The whole Island had great affection for Flower, and as a mark of this they called him "Bláithín" (Little Flower). It was "Bláithín, together with another two Englishmen, Seoirse Mac Tomáis, (George Thomson) the great Greek scholar, and Kenneth Jackson, the Celtic scholar, who roused the Blasket community to put pen to paper and write in their own language about their own lives and the people around them, instead of merely writing accounts and snippets of folklore for the publications, An Lóchrann and An Claidheamh Soluis.

[[1]] Professor Marstrander's contribution to Manx History

[2] Legenden Carl Marstrander – vitenskapsmannen og mennesket

[3] The Blasket Islands Part 2 Historical Information

In 1907, the Norwegian linguist Carl Marstrander visited Great Blasket and soon had the islanders convinced they were a living treasure of language and folklore. He proved to be the proverbial grain of sand in the oyster; the villagers began to write, and the result was a splendid and prolific literary harvest. Marstrander and his prot?g?s got to the island just in time; the village was abandoned in 1953.

Cregneash Folk Village provides a living, working illustration of life in a typical 19th century Manx upland crofting community.

Nestling under Meayll Hill and overlooking the Calf of Man, Cregneash is isolated from the rest of Mann and at the beginning of the 20th century was one of the last strongholds of the traditional customs, crafts and skills which characterised the Manx Crofter’s way of life.

The threat posed by modern developments initiated practical steps by a small band of Manx patriots, scholars and enthusiasts towards preserving this unique site.

Professor Carl Marstrander, Professor of Celtic at the University of Oslo, made the first sound recordings of Manx speech with Harry Kelly, a crofter and fluent Manx speaker, and as a result of this work and through the efforts of William Cubbon, the Director of the Manx Museum at the time, Harry Kelly’s cottage became the starting point of the Cregneash Village Folk Museum, when it was restored and opened to the public for the first time in 1938. The subsequent addition of other buildings together with large areas of the surrounding countryside have further enhanced this authentic picture of traditional Manx crofting life.

The village now forms a centre for traditional farming practices and skills. Visitors can see the fields being worked with horse-drawn equipment, thatching of the roofs, dying of wool, spinning, weaving, wood-turning, black-smithing and a range of skills in the growing and preparation of food.

Carl Marstrander first put forth the North Italic theory, observing that the North Italic alphabets occupied a choice geographic spot for subsequent diffusion throughout the continent (Elliott 6). His theory might be better called "Celto-Latin" as this term reflects more accurately the fact that around the fourth century B.C., the Alpine region was overrun by Celtic tribes. The Romans added a subsequent layer to this cultural milieu with their arrival in the first century B.C. It is from this tapestry that Marstrander believes the runes emerged some time in the late first century A.D.

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[rediger] Kategori

Du kan jo lese linken jeg ga deg, men hovedpoenget er ihvertfall at man legger en ny kategori i en annen kategori. Hvis du f.eks. vil opprette Kategori:Norske folkemusikere må du legge den inn i en annen kategori, f.eks. ved å skrive [[Kategori:Norske musikere]]. --–Duffman 21. jan 2006 kl.23:35 (UTC)

Jeg har lest den lenken både tidligere som nå, men den forteller om systemet kategorier, men ikke spesielt klart hvordan man oppretter dem. Eller så er jeg noe sløv på dette området. Jeg trodde at kategorien ble opprettet ved å skrive {{Kategori:Norske musikere}} på kategorisiden etter at man hadde definert kategorien [[Kategori:Norske musikere]] på en side. --Finn Bjørklid 21. jan 2006 kl.23:42 (UTC)

Det er riktig, bortsett fra at du bruker [[ ]]. Jeg la bare merke til at det i den ene kategorien kun sto {{kategori}}. --–Duffman 21. jan 2006 kl.23:44 (UTC)

Aha, først {{kategori}}, deretter [[kategori]]. Selfølgelig, for at hver enkelt artikkel kommer under kategorien. Pinlig, men av og til er de mest banale tingene mest uoverkommerlig. Takk for en støttende hånd. Kanskje lenken på til manualen bør oppdateres ved å beskrive dette litt nærmere? Hvis jeg har lurt på dette så har kanskje andre det også? --Finn Bjørklid 21. jan 2006 kl.23:52 (UTC)

Alltid bare [[ ]]. Ikke {{ }} (disse tegnene brukes for maler, ikke kategorier). Enig i at det behøves en bedre forklaring. --–Duffman 21. jan 2006 kl.23:55 (UTC)

Ok, jeg overførte logikken fra hvordan man oppretter fødeselår til kategori. Det var der jeg hadde tankesvikten. --Finn Bjørklid 22. jan 2006 kl.00:01 (UTC)