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[edit] Red Hat Product, Fedora Project

Red Hat makes a clear distinction between the Product, Red Hat, and the Project, Fedora Core. This wiki page doesn't seem to reflect that. For more information, see: http://fedora.redhat.com/about/faq/

The answer probably would be that Fedora contains multiple Red Hat logos, and the Red Hat logos are not just for fun. From the past history, many people think that this company is likely to say that only they have right to distribute Fedora in any way unless all logos are removed.

Now there are many average-level Linux users, not just experts that are able to build any version from included sources without problems. For people who never tried to remove logos or recompile Linux this may look the thing that is near impossible to do. Probably Fedora would benefit from somehow more convincible Red Hat explanation that the logos are easy enough to remove?

Among other things, the logos simply are doing they job, the job they are created for: associating the project with the logo owner. 81.63.49.12 16:57, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Quote: "Q: Why a project instead of a product? A: A global steering committee at Red Hat decided that Red Hat Linux was suffering from too many compromises as a retail "product", and that we should redirect our efforts at creating a community-based project. Rather than being run through product management as something that has to appear on retail shelves on a certain date, Fedora Core will be released based on schedules, set by a steering committee, that will be open and accessible to the community, as well as influenced by the community."

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.22.15.77 (talk • contribs) 04:53, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

I recall they were upset about the abusive amounts of "Red Hat Linux" boxed sets that every tom dick and harry were retailing in stores and handing out with "magazine" subscriptions. This was IMHO the real reason behind : splitting into fedora getting harsher about the trademarks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.41.142.242 (talk • contribs) 12:55, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Component object models

Should there be something about KDE or GNOME?

Zisa —The preceding comment was added on 11:07, 21 September 2002.

KDE and GNOME are desktop managers. They can be installed from the source disk of most linux distributions. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.182.29.18 (talk • contribs) 20:14, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Where is RH's HQ located?

Red Hat moved from RTP a few years back. They are now located on the NCState campus. I removed the link to RTP and someone readded it; I don't know what the policy is for this as I don't want to just re-remove it again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.189.95.60 (talk • contribs) 19:55, 19 November 2003 (UTC)

Sorry, I was just following the address from their own homepage. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nixdorf (talk • contribs) 07:28, 20 November 2003 (UTC)

[edit] More on the business model

I'd like to know how they're making their money. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.232.78.86 (talk • contribs) 8:39, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

me too! Or they make money in a non profit way i.e their goal is just to reach the sustainable level to exist? Thanks Alexziller 19:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Their business model. Pamri • Talk 13:47, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

It is not a "misconception" that they sell free software. They do sell it, or at least support for it. Superm401 - Talk 18:30, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] employee numbers mismatch between text and table

I've no idea which is correct. I just noticed the discrepency. :)

"the company has nearly 1,300 employees"

"Employees ~980 (2005)"

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Danny Rathjens (talk • contribs) 18:48, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] jboss

Needs info on acquisition of JBoss. http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2006/jboss.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.96.234.140 (talk • contribs) 17:40, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] merge

I really think that the Fedora Project article should be a section in here, so I've marked the merge. 65.94.100.225 16:19, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

The "Fedora Project" existed independently from Red Hat back in the day. I think we rather need that separate article, even if it no longer mentions anything about the original namesake (that should be fixed). ¦ Reisio 17:21, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

The Fedora Project is independent, though it still draws heavily from Red Hat. æ² ✆ 2006-08-26t13:50z

Fedora is big and distinct enough from RedHat that it deserves its own article. If anything, the Fedora article should be expanded. 22:21, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

oppose for all those reasons mentionend above

[edit] The Red Hat name

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=open_source&articleId=9006258&taxonomyId=88&intsrc=kc_top

"There is a tradition in western history of red being the symbol of liberation and challenge of authority," Bob Young says in the taped interview.

As for the name Red Hat specifically, fellow co-founder Marc Ewing also had an affinity for red hats and wore his grandfather's red lacrosse hat during his time at Carnegie Mellon.

"When Marc was at university he used to name his software projects red hat -- red hat one, red hat two -- just to differentiate them from his friends. So, of course, when he started his Linux project he just named it Red Hat Linux for lack of a better term," said Young

In addition, Ewing became the go-to guy on campus for fellow students with PC problems, Young told the magazine.

"Friends would say, 'You should talk with my friend Marc. Who's Marc? He's the guy in the red hat'," Young says. "So, at least among his immediate friends, red hats became synonymous with technical expertise." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Frandsen (talk • contribs) 10:32, 21 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Cygnus and the stockmarket story?

I've watched Revolution OS a bunch of times, where the story of Cygnus and its abnormally large stockvalue growth (and less covered in the movie, the large decrease later on) is covered. I am not famillar with the exact story and would like to know more. --Pacroon 11:30, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Am researching Cygnus to create new entry. Will try to find some info on this and include. Asanselm 17:22, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV Tag Posted

I have nothing against Red Hat, but this article reads like a press release. --Mister Tog 05:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC) Sorry, I haven't looked at this page in a while and I have forgotten what my original problem with it was. Next time I will be more specific. Mister Tog 04:52, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Can you give some examples of the prose you dislike, please? --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 08:58, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Is there some fact that's disputed, or is the language all that sounds non-neutral? Asanselm 22:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

If you don't think the tone of the article is appropriate, then put up a "wikify" template, as the NPOV tag is used when cases of bias and slander occur, which this article clearly does not have. To be frank though, I think the article is just fine, and has no need for any re-write whatsoever, and I don't think it has the tone a press release. Avador 02:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

So... since there isn't that much of a dispute, I'm going to go ahead and remove the tag. But if anyone has any suggestions or suchlike, bring on the discussion. Thanks, Asanselm 19:08, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Red Hat Software

There is no information about current and previous Red Hat Software. There is no mention about the Red Hat Directory Server, the Red Hat Certificate System and other such products, even though they are vital to the architecture that they plan to provide.