User talk:Richardcavell

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Contents 1 Khachkar destruction 2 Hey 3 AfD nomination of Bill of Rights for Young Offenders 4 13 Winters, speedy deletion? What? 5 Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Anthony5429 2 6 E-mail. 7 Khachkar destruction 8 13 Winters 9 RfA thanks

[edit] Khachkar destruction

Well, if you see User_talk:Grandmaster#Khachkar_destruction, User_talk:Aivazovsky#khachkar_destruction, and User_talk:Dacy69#Khachkar_destruction, you'll see that pretty much every party agrees with redirecting the page. So, there appears to be a consensus for it. Khoikhoi 03:12, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't agree with this redirection, it's completely unfair. The page was created as Khachkar destruction, and as soon as evidence on destruction in Armenia was added, it now has to be redirected to the city in Azerbaijan? The AfD was for some reason done by Aivazovsky in less than two weeks after the rejection of the initial one, so is there any reason for not abiding by Wikipedia regulations? Atabek 07:10, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Since I was the one who brought to the close attention of my Armenian friends the facts of khachkars and other cultural heritage of Armenians being destroyed or otherwise neglected by Armenians themselves, I feel obliged to comment too, and express disapproval of the redirect. Neither do I understand this sudden urge to delete the article -- it has been here for months, and after I've enriched it with new information, suddenly user Aivazovsky tries to delete it (for the second time). In order to prevent creation of great many pages about destruction of various monuments and other cultural heritage and even environmental damage, which of course destroys the ancient monuments too (and both sides, Armenia and Azerbaijan, have PLENTY of accusations and photos to trade), it is wise to group all this under one article, named either Khachkar destruction, or more broadly, Destruction of cultural heritage in the Caucasus (since Georgia was made a party by Armenians, and Georgians, going all the way back to 19th century, have more than enough counter-accusations towards Armenians too). --AdilBaguirov 08:14, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

please pay attention what user Eupator did today. He, without any discussion and consensus redirected page "Khachkar destructuion" to page "Khachkar destruction in Nakhichevan"! he is apparantely trying by this redirection to get rid of imporatnat information which he don't like--Dacy69 13:34, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		I think this was really sweet of you - thank you. – Riana ঋ 04:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:) I thought it was appropriate. RfA can be rough on people. - Richard Cavell 04:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Bill of Rights for Young Offenders

An editor has nominated Bill of Rights for Young Offenders, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not"). Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill of Rights for Young Offenders and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you. Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. Jayden54Bot 16:11, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 13 Winters, speedy deletion? What?

I'm sorry, but I rather think you are demonizing me a little much on the article on the 13 Winters Deletion Page. You even used "tantamount" to describe my actions on being confused about what really happened to the article. Was I to be informed about It's speedy deletion? Because I certanly wasn't. --Emevas 14:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

A user called Gogo Dodo speedy deleted it. I want it to be given its chance at AfD - it looks like it might survive, actually. Your actions in recreating the article were tantamount (ie equivalent) to contesting the speedy deletion, though it's obvious from the talk page that you were not aware of the processes that wikipedia uses to do that explicitly. Therefore it's another reason to give your article a chance at AfD. - Richard Cavell 21:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, okay, sorry, I misunderstood the word tantamount (I was told it meant something else). Well, It may or may not survive. If it does it does, if it doesn't I'll be irriatated, but oh well... --Emevas 15:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Anthony5429 2

Anthony5429 withdrew and closed his own RfA. Wanted to notify an admin, just in case. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 02:27, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 02:28, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

One (admittedly big) step may be to abolish self-noms, as most of those end unsuccessful, anyway. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 04:01, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, this is an interesting topic, and I'd like to know more. Could you point me to any relevant discussions? —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 04:41, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

As I'm fairly new (barely 4 months), the inner workings of policy proposal are totally over my head, but... well, I often read from other users who have given up (or are at least trying) that some major changes should happen. If I understand you correctly, by "conservative" you mean policy that won't go beyond explored territory. Hmm. Would you mind giving me any opinion on what I wrote here, whenever you can find the time and motivation? It's way off topic, I just stumbled over the page and didn't realize the debate had died. Where are major changes like that discussed, if at all? I'd really like to catch up on stuff like that. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 05:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate what you wrote. Getting new policies approved around here seems to be very difficult, and it seems to me that the only way that essays are approved as policy is after people cite them as though they were policy for a while. - Richard Cavell 05:17, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] E-mail.

You have an e-mail ;) --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 01:07, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Khachkar destruction

Alright, but is there any reason why is has to be until July? Most people at WP:AN said it would be fine to redirect the page if everyone agreed. July is so far off. :-( I think it would be better if you made it May, or even June. Khoikhoi 04:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I gave 1 June 2007 as the earliest date to nominate it. I know that the date is arbitrary, but like I said, we need to give decisions some permanence and not game the system. I did, in good faith, conduct an exhaustive review before making my decision. - Richard Cavell 04:49, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, fair enough. Khoikhoi 05:00, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 13 Winters

Hi, Now that 13 Winters have survived the AfD, I wonder if you know what happens to the band members' AfDs? I voted Keep for the band, but the individual members don't seem to pass WP:MUSIC and on that basis should be liable for deletion, but that no longer seems possible. StuartDouglas 09:41, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks

Thank you for your Support on my recent nomination for adminship, which passed with a final tally of 89/1/1. If there's anything I can help with, then you know where to find me. Cheers. - Michael Billington (talk) 06:49, 3 April 2007 (UTC)