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[edit] Wikipedia:Copyright problems

As the owner of the website in question, I decided to post the information that I had collected on my personal website here at Wikipedia for the benefit of a wider audience. To mark quoting my own website as a copyright violation was perhaps a misundertanding and nothing more. The original information came from the Historical section of the Town Hall of the Town of Meiwa in Mie Prefecture, for the purpose of promoting the town to visitors and interested parties. Other sources include the excellent Saiku Historical Museum which is a short walk from Saiku station. It would be nice to remove the copyright warnings at the start of this article. If you need confirmation that I am the owner of the above website, please send an email to the address you'll find on that site under the first link (then scroll to the bottom of the page). Ka-ru 17:13, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I have deleted the article as a copyvio. If you are the copyright holder for that Web site, please see WP:CP for the two possible ways to release permission to Wikipedia to use your text. Otherwise, it cannot stand. Thanks! --Aguerriero (talk) 22:00, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Would have been nice to have been told this before it was deleted. Couldn't be bothered recreating it all, but I don't want it to disappear, either, so I'll just put some basic info in and link it back to my original notes. Ka-ru 01:18, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

If you can follow the directions at WP:CP, I can undelete it once that's taken care of. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 02:18, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Specifically, the following is what needs to be done:

Copyright owners who submitted their own work to Wikipedia: If you submitted work to Wikipedia which you had previously published (especially online), and your submission was marked as a potential infringement of copyright, stating that you are the copyright holder of the work on the article's talk page helps, but will not likely prevent deletion. It is sufficient to:

• Make a note permitting reuse under the GFDL at the site of the original publication.
• Send an email from an address associated with the original publication to permissions at wikimedia dot org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation.

···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 02:20, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Email sent! Ka-ru 03:01, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Complete rewrite

I've decided to do a rewrite of this article in conjucture with a few other new articles. It seems the whole history and legend of Ise Shrine is not covered very well, which is a shame considering it is the main Shinto shrine for all of Japan. I couldn't find any info on Wikipedia on Yamatohime-no-Mikoto, for example, who is said to have founded the shrine. I'll start by first seeing what is here (the article on Ise Jingu needs expanding), and will spend some time down at Saiku Museum to make sure I get all my facts straight. This all ties in with Nachikatsuura and the Kumano Kodo so I expect it will take some time to do. Ka-ru 06:49, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Good luck! I look forward to seeing the results. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 23:35, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Added sections on the origin, role and choosing of the Saio, as well as the 2 major Saio related festivals. I have 1 or 2 photos from this years Saio Matsuri that I'll see about adding to the article. There are a number of side topics that need to be added to make this section complete. I tried my best to reference as many other relevant articles as I could from this one. Essentially the Saio is the link between Ise Shrine and the Imperial Court during the Asuka to Heian periods. The demise of the Saio system is complex and a little obscure as it basically faded out of existance during the civil war period. Saiku was only rediscovered in 1970 when they were digging foundations for new houses here in Meiwa, and excavations have revealed that the Saio residence currently sits under the Kintetsu Kashiokojima railway line, the main rail link to Ise and Shima. I'm quite surprised at how empty this whole area is on Wikipedia. Picked up some books on Japanese pre-history legends and on Shinto beliefs in Nagoya on the weekend, which should really help make these entries more complete. Ka-ru 08:12, 12 September 2006 (UTC)