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==Sonic and Tales Hoax== I personally believe that this should not be in the game becasue it really has nothing to do with the game itself.Chessmaster3 23:58, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree its so pointless!! hes not even in the game!

Contents 1 Tiers? 2 Ditto?? 3 Link Discussion 4 Online 5 Glitches 6 This article needs a HUGE overhaul 7 Trophy errors 8 ya 9 First Source

[edit] Tiers?

Should we add a "current tiers list" to the article? AnujSuper9 07:42, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

No. Comrade Pajitnov 14:22, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Why not, at least give a reasoning... AnujSuper9 23:55, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Because this isn't supposed to be a game guide. See WP:CVG/GL. --Yuuki Mayuki 06:32, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

"A general rule of thumb to follow if unsure: if the content only has value to people actually playing the game, it's unsuitable." The tier list is worthless to non-players, and even to many Smashers. The Smash community generally wants lots and lots of recognition, thrusting its terms and its tier lists into articles. But that isn't appropriate for Wikipedia; save it for SmashWiki. --MaskedSheik 11:25, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah, ok. Well the reason I brought it up at all is because it is generally one of the most sought out pieces of information regarding this game. AnujSuper9 17:31, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ditto??

Does Ditto really appear in melee? I was thinking of writing something in the article about ditto probaly being a hoax, but I should check first. 07:28, 27 January 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Angelofdeath275 (talk • contribs).

I'm pretty sure it doesn't (in battle). However, for me, this seems to be too irrelevant to include it at all. --Yuuki Mayuki 08:09, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Ditto was a character originally designed to be in SSBM, but was removed before final. It can still be accessed via the Debug menu. It summons a ditto that says it's name (go figure), and then disappears. It can do damage to opponents, however. It's in the game, but not with out the debug, in a nutshell. Oddeven2002 06:07, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Also if you choose a random character in tournament mode it will show Ditto as the character. Depressio 03:14, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Link Discussion

i was gonna add a link to smashwiki, run by smashboards, but it said to discuss before adding a link..

• SmashWiki 69.47.216.213 18:35, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

In what way does it comply with WP:EL and WP:SPAM? --Nlu (talk) 05:16, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

If people are interested in ssbm they might want to go to smashwiki to learn more, im depth knowlege about the game. - 69.47.216.213 20:59, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

The SmashWiki is, as of yet, still not officially open to the public, but as you can imagine, these things have leaked out over time. -- Randall00 ^Talk 15:23, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

• Smash Arena Official Gamespy/IGN Hosted Site

I've been re-adding this link for a year now. If you take this link down, then you might as well remove all the other links. Unless you guys can think of a legitimate reason for taking down this link, I'm going to keep it up there. - Borzou99 18:37, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

All of the links are official links. Moby Games is an information site. Smash World Forums is supposedly the biggest SSBM forum out there, with some coverage in the press, so it stays because it passes WP:EL. Unless you can think of a compelling reason to keep another fansite, it's gone. Hbdragon88 18:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

If it were truly a respected source of Smash info for the community at large, somebody other than the page's administrator would've tried to add it by now. Points for effort, I suppose, but GAME SET! :^) -- Randall00 ^Talk 22:20, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I will concede for now. But in less that a month, our information will be as official as any other major site and I will continue my efforts. Hbdragon, you should run a spellcheck. Cheers. Borzou99 09:54, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Online

I think there should be a section for SSB:M online, you can find out about it on youtube 72.210.51.3 02:43, 27 February 2007 (UTC)Slip Stream

[edit] Glitches

There are many glitches in this game, and I was wondering if there should be an article about them.----Sage1989 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 168.170.197.10 (talk) 14:01, 6 March 2007 (UTC).

• No because it doesn't contribute anything to the article, nor is it (in my opinion) noteworthy. The only people who would care would be the people playing the game.Harry Huang (real) 23:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This article needs a HUGE overhaul

Looking through this article almost makes me want to cry. Wikipedia isn't a game guide, but apparently no one knew that in this instance. This article is way to in depth to be any useful to people just looking for quick info. The section about all the different gameplay modes is just useless. We should make an effort to make this page encyclopaedic, and if no one will, then I will when I find the time. Same goes for the Super Smash Bros. article.

Paji, signing out. Comrade Pajitnov 02:49, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

When you have so much activity, it's hard to do what I really like to do. It took me the longest time to remove in in-universe "Debug menu" section, and the Tournaments section could use a lot of cleanup. I've never played this gam before, so I cannot authoritatively rewrite it to satisfaction. I've resigned myself to merely killing the promotional language when I see it. Hbdragon88 00:30, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

It's on par with other game articles of a considerable fanbase. To a fan of the game, this doesn't read like a game guide at all and actually appears to be quite encyclopaedic in how it caters to non-players. If we really wanted to turn it into a game guide, there's quite a bit more information to cover than that. -- Randall00 ^Talk 04:38, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think we need to list all of the special melee modes. Doppelganger 17:33, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trophy errors

It is notable that there are errors on some trophies. Although it said on the Princess Daisy trophy that she had an appearance in Mario Golf, though the writers obviously meant NES Open Tournament Golf. --PJ Pete

That's... not true. Andre (talk) 04:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry......it's easy to note there are errors on some trophies. Here's a list of corrections:

1. Princess Daisy was re-introduced in Mario Tennis, but although they put in Mario Golf, they meant NES Open Tournament Golf where she was Luigi's caddy when Princess Toadstool/Peach was Mario's caddy and love interest.
2. Waluigi's brother is officially Wario, but the trophy incorrectly claims his relationship to Wario is unclear.
3. In Japan, characters that appeared in a game for the Famicom Disk System (FDS), the abbreviation was incorrectly identified as "FCD".
4. The Great Fox first appeared in Star Fox 64, not in the original Star Fox for the SNES.
5. Meta Knight first appeared in Kirby's Adventure for the NES, not in Kirby Super Star for the SNES.

The corrections to trophy errors should be mentioned in the article. --PJ Pete

[edit] ya

Why doesn't anyone ever call the game by its correct spelling? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.180.66.13 (talk) 09:44, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

And it's correct spelling is? -Crimsonseiko 19:39, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Presumably "Super Smash Brothers Melee" (or perhaps "Mêlée"). Since pretty much every official source spells it "Super Smash Bros. Melee," though, that would be a more appropriate name for the article and for in-article references. MaskedSheik 20:22, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First Source

The SSBM sales source from ign says nothing relating to the matter on the bundle article. I can't use this source in a paper and I need a solid source for the sales on the game. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 148.100.218.121 (talk) 23:52, 27 March 2007 (UTC).