User talk:Tmorton166/Archive/August 2006

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Contents 1 Hi 2 Wikipedia Research Survey Request 3 My RfA 4 It was scandaleous what Rob Church did. 5 re: my RfA 6 Thanks.... 7 Lincoln Kennedy markup 8 Golden Dawn tradition 9 Golden Dawn tradition 10 Wikify tag 11 Google hardware 12 Sorry, wikipedia was acting funny. 13 Wikification project 14 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 15 A little help, please. 16 Userbox 17 Bob Dobbs AfD 18 Shortcut box at Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikify/Toolbox 19 RE:User:Lightbulb-Bulblight 20 Mary Pearcey AfD 21 Navigational templates 22 Regarding Nasrallah-Khamenei pic 23 Navigational templates 24 Regarding Nasrallah-Khamenei pic 25 Thanks! 26 Thank you 27 Barnstar 28 Daniel.Bryant 29 Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Daniel.Bryant 30 Good Article 31 WP:WWF 32 August Esperanza Newsletter 33 copyvio 34 Zelizer copyvio issue 35 Sendai International Music Competition wikification

[edit] Hi

Thanks for your support. I am not trying to be stubborn here. I've done my best in proving that I am willing to experiment in de-bulleting those paragraphs once again. The whole opposition is moot. There is no basis, and no rationale. I have presented my case. Let it burn, if they don't get it. :NikoSilver: 10:12, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Research Survey Request

Hello, I am a member of a research group at Palo Alto Research Center (formerly known as Xerox PARC) studying how conflicts occur and resolve on Wikipedia. Due to your experience in conflict resolution on Wikipedia (e.g., as a member of the Mediation Cabal) we’re extremely interested in your insights on this topic. We have a survey at http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=400792384029 which we are inviting a few selected Wikipedians to participate in, and we would be extremely appreciative if you would take the time to complete it. As a token of our gratitude, we would like to present you with a PARC research star upon completion. Thank you for your time.

Parc wiki researcher 00:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
PARC User Interface Research Group

[edit] My RfA

Thank you so much for voting in my recent RFA. It passed on the relatively narrow vote of 38/8/8. It was also one of the least-participated-in RFA nominations in several months, so pat yourself on the back, and join the party on your left, but first, take your cookie! NOTE: I can't code HTML to save my life. I copied this from Misza13. I guess I should write him a thank you note as well. Cookies sold separately. Batteries not included. Offer not valid with other coupons. May contain peanuts or chicken. Keep out of the reach of small children, may present a choking hazard to children under the age of 3. Do not take with alcohol. This notice has a dark background and therefore may be eaten by a grue at any time. The receiver of this message, hereafter referred to as "Pudding Head" relinquishes all rights and abilities to file a lawsuit or any other litigious activities. RyanGerbil10, Jimbo Wales, and the states of Georgia, North Dakota and Wisconsin are not liable for any lost or stolen items or damage from errant shopping carts.

Thank you so much! RyanGerbil10(The people rejoice!) 03:45, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] It was scandaleous what Rob Church did.

He is very lucky that he got away with it. I am reverting you again. KittenKlub 09:38, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

He deleted a medition where he didn't do a thing even though it was harrassment and then he left that remark in revenge and he means ME. The guy should be never be allowed to do things like that with his prior record. KittenKlub 09:39, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Care to comment about your collegue who just made a deceptive edit summary trying to revert me again [1]. There is a reason why I left for 6 months, because this kind of behavior seems to be standard on Wikipedia. I'd suggest that you do some serious clean up of the Mediation system, because it doesn't seem like the friendly team, but more like a Cabal.

Wikipedia was supposed to be an ideal society if you read some of the propaganda. Reality is that it failed even worse than normal society or politics. It's far more corrupt and contains far more bullying. KittenKlub 23:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: my RfA

Well, you know, it happens. I'm a little disappointed, but that won't stop me from keepin on doing what I'm doing. Your support was of course appreciated (you were my very first support vote!) I may try again at some point after I've made some more substantial contributions, but in the meantime I'll just keep on truckin'. Nothing stopping me from still being a dedicated Wikipedian. Thanks again, and I'll probably see you around.

Cheers! - CheNuevara 17:07, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks....

		The Random Thoughtful Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For helping someone (I wonder who...) out of the pit of doom, reviving their trust in Wikipedia and Wikipedians, and for taking the time and effort to help someone in need (and probably prevent them from hurting Wikipedia and their future on this fantastic site), I award you this barnstar. Killfest2|Daniel.Bryant (Talk) 12:09, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and another one, which I should have given you about a month ago...

		The "Rescue from AFD" Award
		I award you this barnstar in recognition of all the work you did to improve the 2006 FIFA World Cup controversies article, which resulted in it's AfD proposal being rejected and the article being kept. Keep up the great work! Killfest2—Daniel.Bryant 01:57, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Gee thanks :D --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 18:20, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lincoln Kennedy markup

Hi! A portion of the list disappeared after one of your edits, but the text appears to still be there if you look at the article in edit mode. As near as I can tell, there is some broken HTML code in there somewhere. I would guess it is from one of your edits, because the text was there prior to your edit, and gone afterwards. I can't seem to find the problem. Can you take a look? dryguy 21:09, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

OK, I figured it out. When you use duplicate refs, next time be sure to include the / at the end like this: <ref name="Name"/>, otherwise, it seems to blank all the text until the next occurence of a /. dryguy 22:41, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Golden Dawn tradition

Saw your note in SynergeticMaggot's nomination. You've got it wrong. I dun it. I gradually over a period of a week wrote separate articles for each of the G.D. orgs, then it was I who merged the links into Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and then redirected Golden Dawn tradition to it. Check the history... SM simply noted it in the mediation case. So it's not fair to blame him for the merge... -999 (Talk) 14:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Golden Dawn tradition

Saw your note in SynergeticMaggot's nomination. You've got it wrong. I dun it. I gradually over a period of a week wrote separate articles for each of the G.D. orgs, then it was I who merged the links into Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and then redirected Golden Dawn tradition to it. Check the history... SM simply noted it in the mediation case. So it's not fair to blame him for the merge... -999 (Talk) 14:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikify tag

I posted a note on Pearle's talk page about the wikify tag - it's semi urgent (nothing bad though) so I thought I'd let you know about it here :D.... --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 21:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't look like Template:Wikify will automatically file articles by month properly. It just puts them in August; if someone changes the template to September, all the articles that use the template will also get inappropriately refiled to September. -- Beland 21:40, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Damn sorry, I see my problem (with placing of the Include only tag..) am fixing it now

It is not possible to fix the problem by changing the placement of the includeonly tag. What you are attempting can only be done by using subst:wikify, which is undesirable because then the form factor of the alert box cannot be easily updated (and many people won't do that). -- Beland 21:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Double damn ok, I was being too clever I fear.... sorry to have bothered you :D --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 21:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Google hardware

I wonder if those make a significant amount of money towards Google's revenue, though. They only sell in Oz and NZ. - Samsara (talk • contribs) 13:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry, wikipedia was acting funny.

I was adding Microsoft on the list, but the system had an error. It got me back to the editing page, butIt might have already saved. 69.177.204.132 14:28, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikification project

Hi there, Re: the note you left on my user page, the article you linked to wasn't actually in the Wikipedia: namespace and I've only seen the one on LBITUK's userspace. If you want, I can start the wikiproject, move everything to the Wikipedia namespace and start inviting members. --Draicone ^(talk) 22:01, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikiproject_Wikify just created. I will work on porting templates, creating headers (like I did for WP:BDC) etc. and finding members. --Draicone ^(talk) 23:16, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] A little help, please.

Some time ago, you mediated in a case relating to the use of the words 'same sex couple' [2] One of the participants, (user:Ros_Power) is now claiming that the mediation resulted in the term being declared POV and is using this as a reason to restart an old edit war.

I would be very grateful if you could confirm the outcome (if any) of the mediation. As there is no note from you on the civil partnerships article, Ros Power's veracity is being called into question. Lost Garden 19:12, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Very kind. Absolutely no rush! :-) Lost Garden 19:19, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userbox

Ahh, yeah, I just realised that using your method, which I also use to create the header of my userpage, hahahaha.. Okay, thanks so much for the help. Imoeng 11:22, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

One more thing, is it okay if I make some new subpages to save my boxes? Because, if I put the template on a page, all userbox on the boxes-page will appear. Imoeng 11:42, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Alright thanks. Right now I'm making it on my sandbox, do you know a band called Dream Theater?? I'm still working on it (I better remove it)

Oh, if you want to reply, you can reply it here (on your talkpage, for your convinience :D)Imoeng 11:48, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

nice one (ok I'll reply here then) one pointer which I think is a bit unfortunate for you is that you cannot use Fair use images in the User namespace -they can only be included in articles where theyre use can be considered fair. And that logo is fair use... sorry! How about using a musical note image (see Nuvola for ideas) with a sub line --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 11:51, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Ahahahah, I knew it :( cause I've read some info on WP:UB and thanks for reminding me. Uhh, policies can be so annoying!! :P And I cannot use CD covers as well, am I right? Uhh, thats why making userbox is somewhat hard, I reckon. Well, I'm working on it, again, later I'll show it to you if you want. Thanks! :) Imoeng 11:59, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah your right no CD covers either... ah well good luck with getting it done and yes I'd like to take a look when your done - just out of interest :D --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 12:06, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bob Dobbs AfD

I notice you listed me as the nominator of the above AfD. Now I can have the odd lapse of brain madness from time to time, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't list the article for AfD; in fact I'm pretty sure I've never listed any articles for AfD (others always beat me to it). Please reassure me that I'm not going crazy in this case. --Daduzi ^talk 12:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shortcut box at Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikify/Toolbox

Hi Tmorton, I noticed you added in the shortcut box again at Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikify/Toolbox. The shortcut box is generally there for Wikipedia pages that are linked to so often that a shortcut makes sense. However, they are meant for things like AID, RFA, NOT etc. As the toolbox is a special page, and is a sub page of the wikiproject, we don't need to conform to that (and, due to the layout break it creates, and the design principles it violates, we shouldn't). If you want we can create a box on the right (or a borderless floated div, for that matter) that describes the shortcut and fits in with the colour theme, but I really don't like the box and I think the | Shorcut: WP:WWF/T was better, whats your opinion? (I've left the box as it is so as not to start an edit war.) --Draicone ^(talk) 10:54, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE:User:Lightbulb-Bulblight

I have notified wikimedia's legal counsell of the threats. He probobly has better things to do with his time, but i figure it is better to cover all bases. Viridae^Talk 13:09, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mary Pearcey AfD

I noticed you voted to delete the Pearcey article because of a line that stated Her only importance in history is that the crime is sometimes mentioned in connection with Jack the Ripper. This has since been removed, the article largely rewritten and further references added showing her importance primarily as a famous Victorian murder case. I hope you'll take another look at the article and perhaps reconsider it as rewritten. Thanks. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 15:01, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Navigational templates

Thanks for your welcome advice about infoboxes and templates. I thought I was using them wrongly, but didn't really know how to proceed. I have now created a proper navigational template based on yours, and put it on all the relevant pages I have written so far. Would you mind checking this and commenting on whether it is more suitable.

Thanks again!

--Hassocks5489 13:18, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Nasrallah-Khamenei pic

Hello Thomas and thank you for your help. Just wondering if now the pic is good to be on the Wiki and I didn't underestand what it says here: "This tag must be used in conjunction with another fair use image tag. If no other tag is present on this page, and this image was uploaded after May 19, 2005, please speedily delete this image." can you explain? --Kaaveh 19:41, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Navigational templates

Thanks for your welcome advice about infoboxes and templates. I thought I was using them wrongly, but didn't really know how to proceed. I have now created a proper navigational template based on yours, and put it on all the relevant pages I have written so far. Would you mind checking this and commenting on whether it is more suitable.

Thanks again!

--Hassocks5489 13:18, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Nasrallah-Khamenei pic

Hello Thomas and thank you for your help. Just wondering if now the pic is good to be on the Wiki and I didn't underestand what it says here: "This tag must be used in conjunction with another fair use image tag. If no other tag is present on this page, and this image was uploaded after May 19, 2005, please speedily delete this image." can you explain? --Kaaveh 19:41, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

We've awarded you this PARC research star in recognition for your contribution to research about conflict in Wikipedia. Thank you for your help!!! --Parc wiki researcher 20:54, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

[edit] Barnstar

[edit] Daniel.Bryant

FYI, in case you didn't notice, you're initial support vote for Daniel.Bryant's RFA was stricken because he hadn't accepted yet. You'll probably want to re-add it. —Wknight94 (talk) 01:09, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Daniel.Bryant

Somone listed this before the questions were answered. I've delisted it. Suggest that you or the subject list it when you are ready. If he still wishes to proceed in view of the criticism. Hope that's helpful. --Doc 01:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good Article

Finally! After months of hard work and toil, 2006 FIFA World Cup controversies was promoted to Good Article status. On behalf of everyone, I'd like to take the chance to thank you for all your hard work in improving this article. Thank you! Daniel.Bryant 07:31, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I responded to your (slightly-rhetorical, I think :p) question that you posted on my talk page. My response can be found here. Daniel.Bryant 08:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:WWF

Hello! Yep, I don't disagree that a lot of pages are tagged wrongly (or have ~all~ the tags on the world stuck on them just in case) There is a list of cleanup resourcs at Wikipedia:Cleanup resources, or is that not what you meant? I think there is a link to it somewhere on the page, but maybe we could make it a bit more prominent? (Or maybe it's not obvious enough on the clean up resources page what wikify means, and we need to add something in there?)

I doubt it would be worth posting on the talk pages of everyone who marked things as "wikify" incorrectly - I think that would probably take up too much time! -Ladybirdintheuk 11:22, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I totally agree it's worth leaving messages for "serial offenders", just probably not much point leaving them for everyone. Mind you, targetting the serial offenders could well make a big difference, if it's just a handful of people monitoring the recent changes list :) -Ladybirdintheuk 11:54, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] August Esperanza Newsletter

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[edit] copyvio

Hello Mr. Morton, this message is regarding the copyvio you recently tagged for the article Viviana Zelizer. The site that you gave as evidence for the violation was simply a mirror of wikipedia, and since all the text is licensed under the GNU it is hardly a copyvio. I just though you might like to know so that we can avoid the needless deletion of a valuable article. Deyyaz ^{[ Talk | Contribs ]} 15:27, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zelizer copyvio issue

Hi me again, I noticed that the Viviana Zelizer page was still listed as a copyvio and that the article itself is still blanked out by the copyvio template. Is there a policy dictating what to do with the removal of suspected copyvios. If you know of such a policy could you point me in its direction. If not I'd be more than happy to remove this entry from the list and to revert the page back to its original state. Thanks for your prompt response, Deyyaz ^{[ Talk | Contribs ]} 01:26, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sendai International Music Competition wikification

Why did you remove the wikify template? The first paragraph is wikified, but the first list is very badly wikified - half of the links lead to disambiguation pages, and the second and the third list aren't wikified at all! Don't get me wrong - you did a good job just by leaving the article in a better state than it was when you started editing. But it's not wikified yet - why remove the template? I nominated the article for deletion because I don't believe it's notable, so the wikification issue here is not a big deal, but I really hope that you don't remove wikify templates from other pages without actually wikifying the articles... Please take no offense, I'm just trying to understand your edit. Regards from Slovenia, -Missmarple 18:11, 15 August 2006 (UTC)