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[edit] Section removed - perhaps a new article needed?

At the end of the same year, Andersson founded Andersson Motorsport in his native country of Sweden and began running a Rally program for Toyota.[1]

The move proved to be an inpractical one and the team moved to Brussels in 1975 and was renamed Team Toyota Europe (TTE), with funding coming from Toyota dealerships across Europe.[1] The same year, Toyota secured their first victory in Motorsport, after Finnish driver Hannu Mikkola and his co-driver, Atso Aho, won the 1975 Rally of Finland in a Toyota Corolla.

Four years later the team moved on from it's Belgian base to Cologne in Western Germany.[1] The team enjoyed further success in the 1980s, with drivers Bjorn Waldegaard and Juha Kankkunen winning the African rallies on a regular basis. The team then moved to an all-purpose racing facility which still serves as the team's base.[1] The team enjoyed more success in the early 90s, Carlos Sainz winning the World Championship in a Four-wheel drive Toyota Celica and repeated the feat two years later.

Toyota bought the company from Andersson in 1993, and remaned it Toyota Motorsport.[1] Juha Kankkunen won the World Title in the same year and Toyota became the first Japanese manufacturer to win the Contructors' championship in the WRC. Didier Auriol repeated the feat for the team in 1994 but the team were caught using an illegal turbo system during the Rally of Spain; the team admitted to the usage of the system and were banned for 12-months by the FIA.[1]

The Toyota GT-One entered by Toyota Motorsport for the 1998 Le Mans 24 hours.
The Toyota GT-One entered by Toyota Motorsport for the 1998 Le Mans 24 hours.

The team managed to get back into the championship in 1996, but the opposition was too strong and the team were unable to re-establish the success they enjoyed during the early 1990s. During early 1997, Toyota began to recruit staff for their attempt to win the Le Mans 24 hours the following year.[1] With a long-term aim to start a Formula One team, Toyota entered the 1998 Le Mans 24 hours with a strong driver line-up, with ex-Formula One drivers, Thierry Boutsen; Martin Brundle and Ukyo Katayama driving a Toyota GT-One. Although the cars were fast, they were beaten in the two races the team entered, 1998 and 1999, beaten by Porshe and BMW repectively.


That section is basically the (Brief in some ways) history of Toyota prior to the creation of the Formula One team. I'll get round to expanding it's related article after the outcome of Alain Prost's FAC. Anyway, sorry if the section was a bit too much Mark.--Skully Collins 14:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ferrari scandal

Nothing about the scandal with the stolen data from Ferrari?

[edit] Toyota statistics

Doesn't this section largely repeat the info box at the top of the article? 4u1e 18:52, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

It may repeat it a little bit, but there is much more information in this new section of the article, which will be of major interest to F1 fans, particularly Toyota F1 fans, and those researching the team

Lradrama 19:30, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

8 of the 18 items listed are direct duplicates of what is in the infobox. I can see that some readers would have an interest in the rest of it. I would suggest removing the duplicates - it's the sort of thing that doesn't go down well if you want to get the article to Good Article standard. Cheers. 4u1e 23:07, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, I'll do just that. Lradrama 12:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Sections - sponsorship and drivers

I've added 2 new sections that will be of use to people looking at this page.

  • A brief history list of the drivers that've raced for Toyota F1
  • A bit about the sponsorship

I hope everyone likes them, and i was enspired by other F1 team pages. Expand them if you want Lradrama 22:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Road to FA status

My aim is to get this article to GA, and then FA status (good article and featured article respectively). Currently, this article on Toyota F1 is a B-class article. I am going to address it's problems and improve it's content.

If you have any suggestions, put them on this page, or on my talk page (User talk:Lradrama) - I'd appreciate any all the help possible.

This is an exciting project, and I hope you support it. (Please, if you think some of the content may be unsuitable, don't revert all of my work; just remove the offending text, and contact me with your reasons - constructive criticism is the foundation for success!)

Lradrama 11:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

  • The first task I'm going to do is to try and improve the introduction. Lradrama 11:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
(Just a suggestion, but I usually do that last - the reason is that the lead should summarise the rest of the article, so it's hard to write it well until you've got the rest of the article where you want it. :)) 4u1e 16:15, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the advice. What do you think of what I've done though? Lradrama 18:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

If you're asking for an opinion, the standard of writing is good - although watch out for a lack of neutrality (see WP:NPOV) and for original research (see WP:OR). The third paragraph of the lead looks like it may be your own conclusions rather than fact or the attributed views of notable authorities - if so, it should go. The second and third paragraphs cover material which is not presently in the rest of the article, which ultimately should not be the case. As I say, the third para should probably go, the content of the second para could be included in the article, if referenced. Hope that's useful, it's intended to be! 4u1e 21:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

3rd paragraph - gone Lradrama 09:18, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I guess they were your own views then? ;-) Do you have a reference for the material in the second paragraph, and whereabouts in the article do you think the material should go (remembering that the lead is only supposed to be a summary)? Cheers. 4u1e 22:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I've recently been adding as much information as I can regarding details of each season the team have competed in so far (2002 to 2007). For example, I've inputted information on Mike Gascoyne's departure in the 2006 bit. Lradrama 17:16, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm now thinking of replacing the 'drivers past & present' part with a section called 'Notable Drivers', like the version in the Fittipaldi Automotive article. Lradrama 19:31, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I've done this now. Remember, this is NOT a repeat of the details in the season review sections above that part, but an in-depth look into the successes and failures of Toyota's notable drivers within the team. The content would be far too detailed to feature in season reviews anyway. Some references are needed, but they can be seen to later. I was inspired to create this section after reading the Fittipaldi Automotive section, and after the previous 'Toyota F1's drivers - past and present' section was deemed unnecessary. I hope this a big improvement... after the time I spent on writing it...! Lradrama 13:24, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

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