Talk:U.S. Route 9 in New York
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[edit] Historical notes
From 1925-1927 Automobile Blue Book route guides and maps
- Early 1920s: Corresponds mainly to routing of old "Highway 6" from NYC to Rouses Point. Differences from current US 9 are:
- Hwy 6 used current NY-32 from Albany to Mechanicville, NY-67 to Maltaville; Current US 9 from Albany to Maltaville was unnumbered prior to 1925.
- Hwy 6 used current NY-9N from Elizabethtown to Keeseville; Current US 9 from Elizabethtown to Keeseville was unnumbered.
- Hwy 6 used current NY-9B from Coopersville to Rouses Point; Current US 9 was unnumbered.
- 1926-1927: Designation of US-9, US-9W and US-9E. US-9 from Waterford to Canadian border; US-9E follows path of old Hwy 6 from NYC to Rensselaer, then along then unnumbered road to Waterford (now numbered as US 4). Hwy 6 from Albany to Waterford became the northern end of US-9W (now NY-32).
- Current Albany to Maltaville section (previously unnumbered) known as NY-9C. Designation lasted until 1930.
- Elizabethtown to Keeseville on current routing by this time. Old Hwy 6 in this area (now NY-9N) became another US-9W (not the same as the more well-known, southern US-9W)
- US-9 at this time still used current NY-9B but the designation now ends at the Canadian border where old PQ-9 begins.
- 1931: By this time, except for northern terminus, US-9 basically the same route as it is today.
- Late 1940s: Northern terminus moved to Champlain
[edit] Questions
Did the US 9E/US 9W split really start at Glens Falls? The maps in the 1926 and 1927 Blue Book indicate that when New York signed its US Highways, the split occured in Waterford. Does anyone know if 9E and 9W were actually signed to Glens Falls? Maybe Glens Falls was the original plan but never fully implemented? --Polaron | Talk 01:40, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Potential segments in route description
- New York City
- Westchester County line-Croton Expy
- Croton Expy
- Peekskill-Albany
- Albany-Glens Falls
- Adirondack Park
- Northern edge of park to Canada
Some of these could probably be extended in one direction or the other. Thoughts? --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 20:55, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- I'm doing it this way:
- Hudson Valley
- New York City
- Westchester
- Peekskill to Poughkeepsie (this segment is a marked break from what comes before and after as it moves inland and becomes a four-lane divided highway between I-84 and POK
- Poughkeepsie to Albany (a lot of territory to cover, but really little difference in the road)
- North Country
- Albany to Lake George (the northern limit of what I'd consider the Albany area in terms of the road
- The Adirondack Park (between Lake George and Keeseville there is much less civilization but oh! the scenery)
- Plattsburgh and Lake Champlain to Canada
- Daniel Case 06:29, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] US 9E
The U.S. Route 9E article needs to be merged into this one. Can someone that has a good working knowledge of US 9's history perform the merge and add the 9E and 109 browse rows to the infobox? --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 18:20, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- I've simply redirected here since most of the content is already in the history section. I still have not found any sources that indicate that 9E was in fact signed (as opposed to planned) to Glens Falls. --Polaron | Talk 19:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Photo request
I have gotten this article up as far as I can for the time being. I am adding it to my watchlist and putting the maintained tag up here.
Now that I'm done with the written improvements I wanted to make to this article, I have put up a request for photos here. Some we absolutely should have; others would be nice.
[edit] Article needs:
- The Peekskill circle. I will see if I can get one next time I'm in the vicinity (which isn't often, alas)
- Passed by today, but it was late and getting too dark and cloudy for good photography. You can shoot this one in its entirety from the road from Bear Mountain Parkway; however you'll have to park at one of the businesses on the circle and walk up — a road extremely ill-advised for pedestrian travel. But if I let that stop me, I wouldn't have half the pictures I have here. Daniel Case 05:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
The Dunn Memorial Bridge. Working on this with User:Fwgoebel, who lives in the area.Got it!- A stretch in the Adirondacks that shows both the scenic and lonely aspect of Route 9. Something where you can see a good bit of road ahead and some scenery. With no other traffic and preferably no development visible.
- The final cul-de-sac. Not technically part of Route 9, but it once was, and is thus important to the history of Route 9. Plus I like the idea of showing, visually, where you'd end up if you took "Born to Run" literally. "Sprung from cages ...", indeed.
[edit] Article could use, but doesn't necessarily need:
Inwood. To show all the Spanish-English ad signs referred to in the text, and one of the US 9 shields along the street there. I go there frequently enough, actually, and might be able to get this one.Done today. Actually, the best Spanish ads are found in Hudson Heights, but the Dyckman Street intersection lends itself best to photography. Daniel Case 05:27, 23 March 2007 (UTC)- A stretch in Columbia County where it's nice and picturesque. The fields and orchards referred to. A nice little stretch of road, in warm weather of course, surrounding by blue skies and green fields. Something that tells us why people spend lots of money on second homes in the area.
- A stretch along Lake Champlain. Road, water and a good view.
- Latham Circle. Not what it once was, but still might be a nice complement to Peekskill.
*The former stub end of the Dunn Bridge to put in the history section for the Crosstown Arterial. Have this but haven't put in yet. Daniel Case 05:31, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Just my suggestions. Daniel Case 06:39, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
This is going better than I expected. I also added a picture of 9 as Broadway underneath the subway line in the Bronx (I intend to go back to that spot at some point in time and take a picture nearby where there's a 9 shield alongside the road). And since I mention it in the text, can we get a pic of that junction with 448 where there are four very big signs telling yout to bear left to stay on 9 north? I love that. Daniel Case 20:24, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
