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[edit] Yogiisms
Would anyone look here first (for "Yogiisms"?) Otherwise it should be moved to the Yogi Berra page itself, shouldn't it? --User:justfred
an (apocryphal) sign outside the hippy- counterculture Oregon Country Fair shows Jerry Garcia with a line drawn even with the top of his head. It's captioned, "You must be this high to enter." [1] --Ed Poor
Maybe it should be mergered..on the other hand with al, due resopect to Ed Poor, what the heck dos the Jerry Garcia thing have to do with this article? Antonio Cover Girl Martin
It is funny when Yogi says these things. It is scary when President Bush says things like them. Kingturtle 05:14 May 8, 2003 (UTC)
- Yeah, bit of a double-standard eh?
[edit] Simpleton
"Berra was often portayed as a simpleton". Who portrayed Berra as a simpleton ? Jay 07:35, 14 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- the park ranger.
[edit] Quotes
Shoudn't most of the quotes be moved to Wikiquote? Ausir 00:23, 22 May 2004 (UTC)
- In this case I suggest we shouldn't - the quotes are a large part of why he's famous - David Gerard 10:35, May 22, 2004 (UTC)
Why did he say them? Was he stupid or just funny? lysdexia 10:12, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)
In theory, theory and practice are the same thing, in practice they differ. - I have heard this attributed to yogi berra, is it really his or just something in his style? I like it.
I have not run accross the above quote anywhere in Yogi's books. Additionaly, I've spent a lot of time talking with Yogi and have never heard him use the words "theory" or "differ."
[edit] Yogi Berra quote or Bob Hope quote
His wife Carmen asked where he would like to be buried, and he said "Surprise me!"
This is also on Bob Hope's page. Did they both say it?
[Well, was Bob Hope's wife named Carmen? Huh?]
- Bob Hope's wife is named Delores.
- Davidkevin 15:16, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] All Over Again
In Yogi Berra's autobiography he claims he never said some of the quotes attributed to him, including the infamous "it's like deja vu all over again".
[edit] Bush photo
Is there any reason that the photo of Yogi with George Bush is on this page? Bush is clearly the eye-grabber in that photo and Yogi is looking away from the camera. Surely we should replace this photo with another that features Yogi more prominently. Phiwum 02:02, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Similarities
It's actually kind of funny to read that a famous former player like Yogi Berra is known for his "yogiisms". In Holland there is an almoust identical situation, former football (soccer) star Johan Cruyff is well-known for his "Cruyffisms", wich are very similar.
1) Journalist: "I don't understand what you're saying, Johan." Cruyff: "If I wanted you to understand I would have made myself clearer."
2) "I am hardly ever wrong, because in practice I find it really hard to make mistakes."
3) "Before I make a mistake, I don't make it."
- This is very relevant. In the UK, the great Liverpool manager Bill Shankly is famous beyond football for some of the things he said, principally, "Football is not a matter of life and death, it's more important than that". Muhammad Ali is also in the same bracket. In the early Sixties, the media became more intrusive, particularly television, seeking out instant after-the-game comment. The people they sought out were players and coaches, who were not media stars and they had other things to be thinking about. To get to where they are needs a lot of playing and practising, they never had the time to acquire the smooth and polished blandness that looks good on the box. Many came from the kind of background where good schooling was not available, but still had great intelligence and insight, they just lacked the learning and finesse. They are remembered while those whose lack of vocabulary hid a lack of anything worthwhile to say are forgotten.
- And then there is the legendary Sam Goldwyn, who came out with gems such as "a verbal contract ain't worth the paper its written on". In his case, he was an emigre, American was his second language and he had difficulty mastering it. Even so, it is doubtful whether it sounded any better in his native Hungarian.
- Guy 10:58, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Stuff
Can somebody specify? Yogi's credited with most World Series games by a catcher. How many?
He played in 14 series for a total of 75 games.
Also, about the lawsuit: shut up. It was a commercial. About "Sex in the City". How serious can it be? Trekphiler 01:40, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] On purpose
Does anybody know if Yogi ever said a Yogiism on purpose? (Those scripted for advertisements and such don't count.) - furrykef (Talk at me) 15:22, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Mulla Nasrudin
Yogi Berra is a prime candidate for the contemporary American version of the Middle Eastern joke figure Mulla Nasrudin, who may not have physically existed, but who is the center of a corpus of jokes that was also used for Sufi spiritual training. Some of them have become common jokes in the West as well, and they all have deeper content than simply jokes.
Examples chosen for their resemblance to Yogi-isms:
1) Mulla Nasrudin was roaming about late at night.
A watchman asked: 'Why are you out this late?'
'I've lost my sleep and I'm searching for it.'
2) 'Nasrudin, your donkey is gone!'
'Good thing I wasn't riding it when it vanished or I'd have gone missing, too!'
3) Nasrudin walks into a bank to make a transaction, and a clerk asks him to identify himself. He pulls out a mirror and checks his face. "Yes, that is me."
[edit] Yogi Bear
Does this article really need to mention *three times* that Yogi Bear was named after him?
[edit] Yogi-isms
How about some information on Yogi-isms? I don't mean a list of quotes, but just some information about the fact that, aside from baseball, he's also known for these sayings. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.71.129.30 (talk • contribs) 12:23, 16 March 2006.
Berra, who quit school at age fifteen, is also quite famous for his tendency toward malapropism and fracturing the English language in highly provocative, interesting ways, even though---by his own malapropping admission---"I never said half the things I really said"
Is this right, or is it (as at Yogiisms) "I never really said half the things I said"? Flapdragon 13:07, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Funny or just dumb?
Lysdexia mentioned this above with no reply: did Berra intentionally utter these malapropisms or did he, like George W. Bush, have no idea that what he said was funny? If anyone can give me an answer, I think it should be included in the article. 
plattopustalk 06:19, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
- "Yogi Berra is famous around the non-baseball world for his pithy comments and witticisms. Many of these are in the mould of the gravedigger in Shakespeare's Hamlet, the comments of a worldly-wise philosopher who does not have the education and vocabulary to express his thoughts accurately." Guy 15:59, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Team player?
Regarding this comment: (does anybody really beleive that yogi was the single greatest team player in the history of team sports. ?? Cause Babe Ruth, Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky and Joe Montana all say hello.) The New York Yankees, of which Yogi was an important member, won a large number of World Series. There is little doubt that Yogi's performance in a crucial position was a big factor in the team's success, the numbers speak for themselves. His were big performances under big pressure for a long period of time. Also he had a long run in the team, if he was not worth it they would have found somebody else. To say he was the greatest team sportsman of all time is a little fanciful, it is a daft concept anyway, but Yogi has as strong a claim as anybody. Then again, he was a top manager too, different contribution to the team, same outcome.
Guy 15:59, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Background on Yogi-George feud
I noted yesterday that Larsen's perfect game was recreated on Yogi Berra day, and celebrated Yogi's return the stadium. Is it worth noting the reason for the feud with Steinbrenner? (He was p*%#^d about being fired 16 games into the season in 1985, after being told he would be the manager for the entire season. Or perhaps this should be an external link?
Here's one account from Everything2 ... 3rd to last graph.: http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=157373
I have corrected information I previously posted regarding Yogi Berra Day; it was not the first perfect game since Larsen's, as David Wells pitched one the year before. Also added the background on Steinbrenner-Yogi feud. That may be removed if it detracts from the flow the article. --Drstrnglv64 22:45, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
bit much to call Larsen's perfect game the most notable feat of 3-time MVP Yogi's career, so I switched it to "day."
- David Wells' perfect game has nothing to do with Berra.
- Perfect games don't happen about every eight years; dividing 16 into 128 doesn't tell us anything about the clumps and gaps of time that separate the actual games. And in any event, it again has nothing to do with Berra.
- Berra was fired in April '85, not midway through that season.p
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