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[edit] How many Bahai's are there, actually?

The page 'Major religious groups' says that there are 7 million Bahai's in the world, but when we enter the Bahai page, we learn that there are in fact 6 million Bahai's. My question is, actually how many Bahai's are there? Kazimostak 17:34, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Accurately estimating the number of any religion is a difficult and complex task. In some regions of the world, religious persecution or government oppression may make individual believers reluctant to identify themselves. In other areas, poor communications or travel networks make it difficult to obtain data. Thus different sources give different amounts. Encyclopedias and similar sources estimate usually from 5 to 8 million Bahá'ís with most centred on 5-6 million. Encyclopedia Britannica states 7 million. -- Jeff3000 18:01, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

This should really be standardised. I suggest changing both to "around 5-8 million" Zazaban 19:53, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

It would have to fit into the pattern of the rest of the religions. Perhaps the lead references should simply be echoed elsewhere or referred to the statistics page.--Smkolins 22:43, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
  • I know at Buddhism they show where estimates usually vary from. Zazaban 23:20, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
It's already discussed in the demographics section and the Baha'i statistics page as per summary style. Having that much detail in the lead would not pass by WP:LEAD. -- Jeff3000 23:25, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Another reason diffreent articles will give different numbers is because they use different sources that use different definitions. Most religious statistics ultimately come from the World Christian Encyclopedia, originally edited by David Barrett, now by Todd Johnson. Their estimate of 7 million Baha'is worldwide is based on "identity," which includes people the Baha'is don't usually include (Dr. Johnson told me, for example, that if a non-Baha'i spouse attended Baha'i worship services regularly, he or she would be counted as a "Baha'i" by their definition). The Baha'i definition, however, requires someone to "declare" (state their allegiance) and then be enrolled in the community. The Baha'i numbers therefore are somewhat lower on average. 70.224.42.139 14:05, 5 March 2007 (UTC)RHStockman

Ouch. I didn't know it was that bad. I recalled bits about conversions vs children raised as Baha'is but never just a spouse attending a meeting....--Smkolins 19:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
But where do they get that information? -LambaJan 16:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
The data collected around the world associated with Ruhi books will give a much better overall impression of the base line and the trends. RoddyYoung 13:28, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

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