Talk:Battle for Wesnoth

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Contents 1 Accidental 2 Removed a section 3 Updates (Badly?) Needed 4 Inspired by BI? 5 Image copyright? 6 Better refs needed 7 Gameplay features

[edit] Accidental

Sorry, I accidentally clicked "permanent link", and I'm not sure how to undo this.

Don't worry, it seems that "pemanent link" simply gives you a "permanent link" which you can paste somewhere else (e.g. like this) - but does not actually modify anything :) --Allefant 02:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed a section

====Multiplayers====
Wesnoth have several multiplayer options such as join official server; join game, hotseat, and Human versus AI.

*Join official server: This takes you to the Wesnoth's official server where you find several players playing/watching/joining/waiting games. 
*Join game: It lets you join servers other than the official Wesnoth server.
*Host networked game: This option lets you host a server.
*Hot Seat: It is a multiplayer game on one computer where players take their turn at one computer.
*Human versus AI: It where you fight computers only.

Not much of a point in this section--it just describes the multiplayer menu.
The rest of the article needs a serious grammatical makeover. --Ardonik.talk()^* 22:13, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

I can see for removing section. However, I don't see the point of removing the reference section. To make it features article, it must have reference. To achevie it better, we can have inline referncing. I am adding that section back. --Kiba 22:53, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Here's the delta, for all interested parties. Frankly, that's the strangest edit I've seen all week. An external link to common knowledge on an official webpage does not a reference make; if we actually need a reference section (you know, for a real reference), one will be added later. --Ardonik.talk()^* 23:48, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Updates (Badly?) Needed

• the game is actualy in its 1.0.1 version (not much difference from 1.0, i know) and the title screen changed a lot (and beautifuly). --daniel duende October 31, 2005

[edit] Inspired by BI?

Was this game inspired by Battle Isle, as stated on List of open source games?-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  22:17, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

It was inspired by Master of Monsters, as described in detail by the original author [1]. The hex-tile movement is similar to early Battle Isle games though, just fighting is quite different (e.g. no ranged attacks). I guess, it's as similar to BI as each turn-based strategy game is to another, but I think Wesnoth clearly is the most popular free TBS currently, so the reference on List of open source games somehow makes sense. --Allefant 07:53, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright?

Why are the screenshots licensed as fair use when they have a free license as well? Borisblue 04:27, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Since all artwork and code of Wesnoth is GPL, screenshots taken of it also must be GPL, so I'd say the license can be changed to GPL for them. Whoever uploaded them probably did not care to check the license and just used fair use. --Allefant 19:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't think the GPL is compatible with Wikipedia's license, so fair use seems like the best bet, unless the artists can be persuaded to dual-license. The GPL is generally only compatible with itself (though other licenses may be compatible with it). Xtifr _tälk 20:20, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Not everything need to be licensed under the GNU FDL.Kiba 21:15, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

No, of course not, but it has to be under a license that's compatible with the FDL, which the GPL is not. Xtifr _tälk 22:40, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

GPL specifically is allowed (as are all the ones listed here Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags). So could just replace the fair use tag with {{GPL}}. --Allefant 23:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

That page quite specifically says "don't use GPL for new images". It's meant for things like icons copied from free software packages, not for screenshots of GPL software. In any case I seriously doubt anyone's going to be suing anyone over a Wesnoth screenshot; it's fine with fair use. Chris Cunningham 08:30, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, it says:

{{GPL}} — GNU General Public License.
This tag is designed for GPL images licensed by others (usually as part of a software package).
Do not use it to tag images you created yourself. Use another free license, such as {{GFDL}} or {{cc-by-sa}}.

So it only says to not use it for new self-created images (but the screenshots here are taken from the website I assume and therefore already under GPL). But I agree, fair use is just as good - it would only be a problem e.g. on the German Wikipedia where fair-use cannot be used - and there the images are marked as GPL :) --Allefant 10:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Better refs needed

Need refs for release dates and the like. A single link to the philosophy page (on a wiki no less) isn't really enough. Chris Cunningham 09:59, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

There's a link to the official homepage, from which most if not all of the info is taken. So I don't think we need separate references for each small information, unless it uses another source. Just my opinion though without knowing about any Wikipedia policies. --Allefant 10:34, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

It's always best to make a good effort to dig out sources. Links to front-page news sources, gaming sites which have mentioned it, that kind of thing. The majority of the article is single-sourced, true, but not all of it. Chris Cunningham 11:03, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gameplay features

Do we need to include more information on certain aspects of the game, such as abilities, traits, weapon effects etc.? I would like to see it mentioned in the article if possible. Theodorel 04:09, 2 December 2006 (UTC)