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Contents 1 Initial Stab 2 Added Images 3 Beyond! 4 POV 4.1 POV Found 5 Cleanup.

[edit] Initial Stab

This article is my initial stab at a description of the game. However, it may contain numerous errors: I mainly played Beyond Castle Wolfenstein and only played this game once or twice, so please be bold and make corrections were you see mistakes. Also, I don't speak German so correct those words if you know the correct spelling. :-) —Frecklefoot 16:38, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Thanks to Wik for his edits and, especially, German translations in this article! —Frecklefoot 16:57, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)

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[edit] Added Images

I added two image from screenshots of an emulated version of the game. They don't look so hot, but that is what they really looked like on the Apple II. They are allowed under "fair use," I beleive, or some such copyright term. —Frecklefoot 22:20, 25 Aug 2003 (UTC)

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[edit] Beyond!

I just wrote the Beyond Castle Wolfenstein article. For those interested, please take a look and edit to your delight! — Frecklefoot | Talk 20:13, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] POV

There is a lot of point of view in this article; many opinions are expressed of the nature and playability of the game, of the Smurfenstein hack, and so on. In order to be encyclopedic, this needs to be removed --larsinio 21:25, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

I looked it over and could find very little POV. Could you please point out some specific instances? — Frecklefoot | Talk 22:23, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Agreed. The only major error I found was saying Wolf3D ushered in the FPS age, whereas many consider Catacomb3D (or earlier) to be the "First FPS". Even then, you could make the argument that it was the first "major" FPS. (Certainly the first I played.) Anyway, if Larsinio is referring to some of the statements regarding the superior AI of certain types of troops, it seems to me that that is simply a more lively descriptor than one would be used to, not POV. Furthermore, I find it kind of silly (though proper!) that I found this article while wading through those cited as not being NPOV. Larsinio, can you make a good case for this being POV? JD79 03:32, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] POV Found

Analysis seciton:

Though the game's graphics are dated—and almost comical—by today's standards...With an emphasis on the player trying to avoid detection for as long as possible, this game (along with its sequel) is considered an ancestor of the first-person sneaker genre of games that would gain popularity in the 1990s.

• iS that second part cited anywwhere?

in the "Author" section:

He also wrote Robot Wars. He was a prototypical "geek" in the best sense of that word: smart, inventive, and totally uninterested in conforming. Legend has it that he would typically program while wearing only his underwear, even in the office.

Legacy section:

but, besides being an entertaining game in its own right, inspiring the seminal Wolfenstein 3D is probably Castle Wolfenstein's greatest gift to computer gaming.

--larsinio 13:16, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I cleaned up all the instances you cite. I made the wording clearer and less POV. Since Silas Warner has his own article, not as much needed to be said about him in the "Author" section. — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:23, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Hooray for fixing stuff! JD79 02:51, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

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some technical idiosyncrasies (for example, bumping into a wall caused the screen to flash random characters and generated a screeching sound)

I would interpret this not as a glitch or bug but as a deliberate attempt to replicate the shock of mild concussion incurred when running into a wall head-first, a la a circle of stars or chirping birds orbiting the head of a Warner Bros. cartoon character. Pseudo Intellectual 07:32, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup.

I've cleaned it up as best I could for now.--Drat (Talk) 13:55, 31 March 2006 (UTC)