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Contents 1 Crime 2 Sport 3 Irish name 4 Map icons for sister cities 5 Motto 6 Achival 7 Sister city format

[edit] Crime

Where is the section about Dublin's crime problems? Especially as regards gangs, particular estates/areas that are almost no-go, and recent high profile incidents (shootings, tiger kidnappings, gang feuds, drive-bys, etc). There was even an incident of a car chase and shooting (while driving) on the M50 a number of months back - like something out of an action movie.

Unsurprisingly, Limerick's Wikipedia article already has a detailed "Crime" section.

zoney ♣ talk 18:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Zoney, there isn't any crime in Dublin. So not much point in having a crime section. All that shooting is just high spirits. (Sarah777 23:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC))

No crime in dublin? What about the apprentice plumber shot dead because he "was in the wrong place at the wrong time"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.1.88.12 (talk • contribs).

yip, there is no crime in Dublin. Check the meeja - all reported crime is in either Limerick or Gangland. Dublin is safe. ... al Seabhcán bin Baloney (Hows my driving?) 16:57, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree fully with the previous comment; there is a very serious crime problem in both Limerick and Gangland.

Try explaining your light hearted comments to the family of Anthony Campbell the apprentice plumber who was unwittingly caught up in the sickening cycle of violence. Also nothing about Veronica Guerin.

Veronica Guerin? Bastun 15:42, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

A Crime section has now been added. While some is excellent, I've removed some parts of it, which were plainly PoV. Southside inner-city areas were just as ravaged by the heroin epidemic as northside (e.g., Rialto, Dolphin's Barn, Crumlin) - and there were many anti-drugs marches on the northside too. Bastun 17:21, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sport

Shamrock Rovers are not from Milltown, but from Ringsend. RedsIndependent.com 01:08, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

But their ground Glenmalure Park was at Milltown from the 1920s until the late 1980s, so there is a 60+ year connection to MIllitown. ww2censor 17:55, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Irish name

anybody tell me how the irish name for dublin is Baile Atha Cliath when the name dublin comes from the irish Dubh Linn meaning blackpool

It's in the article. See the "name" section.

Dublin - Name. "the more common name for the city in modern Irish is 'Baile Átha Cliath' ('The Town of the Ford of the Reed Hurdles'), which refers to the settlement, founded in 988 by High King Mael Sechnaill II, that adjoined the town of Dubh Linn proper at the Black Pool."

Guliolopez 04:42, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Map icons for sister cities

As regards the current disputes regarding which flag icons to use for sister cities, I want to point out that there's been a more extensive discussion at Talk:Vancouver. --A bit iffy 11:21, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

My personal preference is what they have done at Kiev: a simple list in the Infobox: no countries or WP:FLAGS! These are, after all, very much local arrangements, between individual local government bodies. Twinning is a trivial point, and ought not to be splogged across the main text of the article. These sections have been systematically targetted by certain users and their IP sockpuppets for many months now - a total waste of everybody's time. --Mais oui! 11:34, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I do like that, Mais oui!. I have to admit I do like the prettiness of the flag icons, but the Kiev solution is a whole lot cleaner, more ordered and uses much less screen "real estate". I think I've changed my mind now as a result — cheers! --A bit iffy 11:43, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

... de rien... --Mais oui! 11:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Mais oui! I agree that this constant churn over flags with relation to sister cities is a "storm in a tea cup", and that - as you say - the arrangements are local and (in a way) not necessarily relevant to the national context of the cities involved. As a result, if you were to move the sister cities to the info boxes for Dublin (and possibly Cork and Limerick where this also appears to be [strangely] contentious), then I would support that change. Guliolopez 12:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

• Mais Out!, I'd like to now why you are reverting the flags of the sovereign state of the United Kingdom to 'state' flags of England, Scotland and Wales. This appears to be pushing a separatist agenda. It's also non-balanced, as you won't allow the British flag in this case, but allow the Spanish flag for Barcelona in Catalonia, which is a state with a far larger separatist desire than any of Scotland, Wales or England. Please explain why you must revert these flags.Enzedbrit 05:11, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

The above illustrates why getting rif of all the flags is a good idea! Bastun 10:03, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Getting rid of user:Mais oui! would be an even better idea! He has a POV agenda that he pushes obsessively (just see how many "contributions" he makes per day) to the detriment of the Wikipedia project. Many knowlegable contributers have given up contributing because they had better things to do with their lives than put up with his barrage of attacks, abuse and destructive editing.

Please assume good faith and observe the policy on no personal attacks. Please also log in with an account and sign your posts with four tildes. Bastun 14:42, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

The time for assuming good faith is long past when it comes to user:Mais oui!. He has a long history of this behaviour. Logged-in users who have criticised user:Mais oui! have been monitored by him and had their contributions constantly reverted or destructively edited by him. In the end many have given up contributing to Wikipedia - a sad loss for the project.

Perhaps the editor attacking User: Mais oui! might do us the courtesy of signing his/her rather strong comments? (Sarah777 06:52, 16 February 2007 (UTC))

It is 81.153.151.56 (talk • contribs), one of 80 IP sockpuppets of Mallimak (talk • contribs). --Mais oui! 08:25, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Motto

A citation was requested for the recent translation of the city motto. Instead of providing a reference, because there is none to be found, and though a better translation may be preferred by some Latin scholars, I have reverted the English version of the motto to that provided by the Dublin City Council with an appropriate reference. Who are we to state a different translation than the council itself, this, at least is verifiable. ww2censor 13:42, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Achival

Sorry, forgot to add Achival to the Summary Edit (So its not vandalism, lol) --Ferdia O'Brien 15:23, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sister city format

So - should Barcelona be the only city not to follow the

• (cityname)(autonomous region/prefecture/state if appropriate)(country)

format? User:Seaned seems determined that Spain not be included as the country where one would expect to find Barcelona. On my talk page, he responded to me to say "Oh no not this again" - which is odd for a 4-day-old account. Bastun^{BaStun not BaTsun} 17:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

We have been through this before. If he does it again you should enforce the 3RR rule. This could be a Sockpuppet. ww2censor 17:40, 28 March 2007 (UTC)