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Bold textWAS ONE OF THE FOUR DIVISIONS WITHIN THE MONGOL EMPIRE.


“centered in the land of Persia and included present-day Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Azerbaijan and western Pakistan”

This sentence gives the impression that “Persia” was cut into pieces and nations of Iran and Iraq and Afghanistan emerged from it. This is a mistake. Iran existed at the time and it did not emerge after Persia was divided. IRAN IS PERSIA.

Modern day nations of Iraq and Afghanistan did emerge after they were separated from Persia and they did not exist (at least not as independent nations) before but this is not the case for Iran since Persia is just a different name for Iran (westerners used to call it Persia while natives have been calling it Iran for the past 2000 years)

I changed it. Gol 23:57, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Afghanistan

It is false to say that Iran existed before 1935. The name Iran was not recognized by any international community before 1935. Not even its next door neighbors. The Afghans have been calling their native land as "Afghanistan" (land of the Afghans) for ages, but the name Afghanistan came into existence since the middle of the 18th century, according to the Encyclopaedia of Islam.

Afghānistān has borne that name only since the middle of the 18th century, when the supremacy of the Afghan race (Pashtuns) became assured: previously various districts bore distinct apellations, but the country was not a definite political unit, and its component parts were not bound together by any identity of race or language. The earlier meaning of the word was simply “the land of the Afghans”, a limited territory which did not include many parts of the present state but did comprise large districts now either independent or within the boundary of Pakistan.[1]

In the early 1800s...the British wrote down the name "Afghanland" (refering to Afghanistan) in an agreement between Persians, Afghans and British to end the war between Persia and Afghanistan in 1938. Another point I like to make is that Afghanistan was not part of Persia (Iran) as a whole...only smaller western area...about 15% of total present-day Afghanistan was part of Persian (Iranian) Safavid empire. The northern section was ruled by Uzbeks, while most of the larger area (southeast) was ruled by Moghul Empire or self ruled by the Pashtuns. Before that...Afghanistan was ruled by Timur...and before that Mongolian Empire...and before that...Afghanistan was the center (present day Ghor district, Afghanistan) of Ghori Empire, and before that Afghanistan was the center (Ghazni, Afghanistan) Ghaznavid Empire. ~Nisar NisarKand 11:27, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

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