User talk:Kathryn NicDhàna/Archive 9
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Thank you for your support
Thank you for your support in the RfA on my behalf. It is an honor to have received your expression of confidence. To be chosen as an administrator requires a high level of confidence by a broad section of the community. Although I received a great deal of support, at this time I do not hold the level of confidence required, and the RfA did not pass. It is my wish that I will continue to deserve your confidence. Sincerely, --BostonMA talk 16:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
- I'm sure you'll breeze through the next one. I look forward to working together in the future. I think you'll do just fine with the extra buttons. :-) ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 06:25, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Kathryn
I hope I spelled that right:), it's a very important name for me.
Anyhow - welcome to Wikiproject Religion! There is a lot to do there. Also, consider joining the neutrality project. We could use folks like you.
Today is the Mahayana Buddhist New Year, so here is a complimentary card made by me. Hope you like it!
 Please click on useless image and all my useless Wiki-links. Happy New Year from a complete maniac. Nina Odell 19:14, 31 December 2006 (UTC) |
- Thank you for the welcome and the lovely card, Nina. I particularly enjoyed your tips for angry new admins. I'll check out the neutrality project and see if I can help. Happy Buddhist New Year to you, too! ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 06:25, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
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- You clicked on the links! You clicked on the links! Thank you! Feel free to shameless thieve from me and share with anyone who needs a whacking stick. Nina Odell 12:28, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Same Sex Marriage User Box
Hi...I just wanted to say that I appreciate the humor in your same sex marriage user box. Also, I note the good work you are doing in wikipedia and just wanted to say thanks and hi. --Kukini 05:43, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- Why thank you! That means a lot to me. What a pleasant change to check in from CVU patrol and see something kind (instead of retaliatory rampaging vandals who want to tell me all about their penises). And it's a good day when my romantic challenges can educate, inform, and inspire... *cue dreamy muzak*... *snerk* :-) ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 06:25, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- Glad I made you smile too. Cheers, --Kukini 16:42, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for joining the project!
Thank you for having joined the WikiProject Religion! It is basically only a recently reformed group, and, as you probably could tell from the project page, and there is still a lot that needs to be done. Any help you might be able to give in any area of the project would be more than welcome. I noticed in particular that you expressed interest in the Paganism, Neopaganism, and some of the traditions of the African Diaspora and the First Nations. You have no idea how happy I am to see that! Our aims are to improve and maintain the articles relating to religion which do not fall within the scope of any of the other projects, as well as to potentially create new task forces or other projects to deal specifically with those other faiths. There are several articles which relate to one or more of these traditions which do not fall within the specific focus of any other projects, and we are more than grateful to have anyone who is knowledgable about those subjects. I have just now begun to catalogue all the relevant articles, and am finding that there is a huge number of articles which deal with religion subjects in general, without any particular focus on any specific religions. Any contributions you might be able to make on these articles, or any other articles that might interest you, would be more than welcome. Also, as indicated on the project page, we are hoping to create dedicated subprojects dealing with any faiths which have enough members to support one, and I hope that we may well have enough members interested in some of your interests to create subprojects or stand-alone projects dealing with them. If you should ever have any questions, or wish any sort of assistance, please do not hesitate to let me or the other members of the project know. Happy editing, and thanks again for joining the project! Badbilltucker 14:36, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Happy New Year
Happy New Year, Kathryn! Judging from your userboxes, I think we have a few interests in common. :-) I noticed that you were listed under the League of copyeditors and I am in urgent need for someone to help me with copyediting of the Ohio Wesleyan University. Would you have some time for it? Thank you so much for your time!!! WikiprojectOWU 22:11, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Admin jobs
Hi Kathryn!
Please accept my apologies for the very much delayed reply to your message (I'm a bit unwell and have been on something of an on-again-off-again Wikibreak).
Yes, non-admins can contribute to WP:RfA discussions.
In fact, I'm a big believer in the idea that non-admins should do - and be encouraged to do - any task on Wikipedia that doesn't require the couple of extra buttons that being an admin gives you. Adminship is really no big deal - it's two extra options (protect and delete) and one extra function (block). That's all it comes down to.
Anything you see on Wikipedia - literally anything - that doesn't require the pushing of one of those buttons is something that everybody on Wikipedia should be doing. So discuss away on WP:RfA, close obvious "keeps" at the end of their time on WP:AfD, voice your opinions wherever an opportunity presents, and "act like an admin should" whenever you have reason to.
You'll just be benefitting Wikipedia by doing so. Happy editing! ⇨REDVEЯS 20:10, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for your informative and kind response, Redvers. Please rest up and get well, we need you here! Slàn! ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 22:23, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thank you very much for protecting the Pupil (band) article. (bows my head) Moonwalkerwiz 07:13, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Ikoh nya'weh (i also thank you), for looking into my comments on the Seneca people page. Please note that the editor I am describing is currently attempting to eliminate a page that is about the Seneca Nation of Indians (a government). I find it interesting that this is in fact his state goal to perform as leader of the Niagara Chapter of the anti-Indian hate group UCE. esgo:geh ieh. jigwaas, Scuggy 18:13, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Random Smiley
originated by Pedia-I
(Explanation and Disclaimer)
Jerry lavoie 22:29, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Seeing the ogham font
Hi. I noticed this message you left on the talk page of the Ogham article. I had this problem too, and I've just had a quick look for the solution today. A nice Alan Wood-shaped bloke helped me solve it. You just need to install one of the fonts from the list (some are no longer available, and some you have to register for or pay for). It worked for me. :) You probably have it sorted already, as I see you left your message at the end of November. --Mal 11:28, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Award of a Barnstar
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The Barnstar of Diligence | |
| The Barnstar of Diligence is hereby awarded in recognition of extraordinary scrutiny, patience, and community service.
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Thank you! You are very kind, and it does my heart good to have my work noticed. :-) ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 23:48, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for editing that atricle with false information.
My bad. I was just trying to prevent anyone else from listening to that horrible spin off of rap. Snap music is destroying rap music. Try and tell me you (or anyone around you) would listen to or enjoy snap. Yes, that is the point. The ends justify the means in this case. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.214.83.160 (talk) 04:33, 28 January 2007 (UTC).
Welcome to WikiProject LGBT studies!
 Hi, Kathryn NicDhàna, welcome to WikiProject LGBT Studies! We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying, categorizing, and improving articles of interest to the LGBT community. Some points that may be helpful:
If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you. And once again - Welcome! |
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Harley Reagan and Quodoushka
Hi Kathryn,
Thank you for taking an interest in my recent edits. I'm new to this wiki thing, but as a computer programmer/user since the dawn of time (or at least since 1973) and a former BBS operator (when BBSes were systems, not web apps), I am *very* interested in becoming good at this and would welcome whatever help you may offer.
More to the point--I am a personal friend of Harley Reagan and am interested in making his entry, and the Quodoushka entry, neutral and accurate and then preventing vandalism.
Dr. Reagan is a controversial guy who does controversial things -- and he has a long-time policy of refusing to dignify his attackers by with a response. This, of course, does nothing to discourage them and with the advent and popularity of wikipedia they now have a platform that can no longer be ignored. I have begun the process of working with him and his organization to get permission to fix this and I belive I will be able to do that in the next month or so.
So, I'll need a little time to put together content and get permission to post it. Then I may need a little help driving the wikipedia -- It's very powerful and the interface can be more than a little confusing at times.
Thanks again for your help,
--Bearheart 17:22, 5 February 2007 (UTC) (aka Bill Weinman, http://bw.org/)
League of Copyeditors participation drive!
Dear League member,
We've started a participation drive for the remainder of February. If you can, please help clear the backlog by adopting the following goals each week:
- Select an article to copy-edit from the backlog. After your copy-edit, list the article in the articles ready for final proofread section.
- Select a different article to proofread from the articles ready for final proofread section.
Thanks for your help! BuddingJournalist 08:33, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Irish Republican navbox?
Hi Kathryn, two things:
- Failte! Welcome to WP:IRA!
- You mentioned on the MfD page that we had an Irish Republican navbox; are you referring to Template:IRAs? Or another? If it's another one, I'd sure appreciate a link to it. Erin Go Braghtalk 09:22, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
WP:LGBT Coordinator Election NoticeThis is just a quick, automated note to let you know that there is an election being conducted over the next 7 days for the position of "Coordinator" for the LGBT WikiProject. Your participation is requested. -- SatyrTN (talk • contribs) |
im very sorry
Dear Kathryn, I am very sorry about the edit that my son made on this website. he has abused his privilege to use his computer. I completely agrre with you about the itd time to straiten up. I think he gets the idea though. Thank you for your time and Jordan is also sorry for the bad edit. ( I know this might seem a little bit harsh but I work with websites and I know just how annoying it is) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.166.77.24 (talk) 06:40, 12 February 2007 (UTC).
Thanks
Thanks Kathryn ;) 86.42.176.24 22:41, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Avebury handfasting photo
I did not know the people featured personally, but a friend of theirs said they were ok about the picture being used on Wikipedia, he also said that they were Wiccan if I remember correctly, but I don't know which type. Sorry I can't be more helpful, I took the picture purely to illustrate the Wicca article as I felt many articles are low on visuals. - Solar 12:13, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you, Solar! That helps a lot :-) ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 21:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Irish people picture
I noticed the photo collage has recently been updated, and although it includes women, I believe it is excluding some very important people to Irish history and identity. Where is Michael Collins, a national hero ? I think he deserves to be there more than Mary McAleese or Bono. Epf 01:25, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
- Hi, Epf. We had a very long discussion about it here. I wish you would have joined us. I would love to have included Collins, but he wasn't lobbied for in that round. However I do see that in a discussion for the previous version you wanted Bono added :-) The main concerns that emerged in the discussion, to my eye, were that we add women and contemporary figures. It was very difficult to find contemporary images that were appropriately licensed. Consensus wasn't clear between adding *some* women or 50% women, so as the photoshop-monkey I made the decision to go with half. I don't think it's possible to get a version everyone loves, though I do think we managed to come up with one that everyone can live with. Slán ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 05:10, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
- Update: I've added a pic of Michael Collins to the section with the list of Notable Irish People. So far all the pics in that section are men. ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 02:59, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Celtic pederasty
One quote from one outsider from a culture hostile to the celts (Greek) does not qualify as proof of the alleged "historical" nature of Celtic pederasty. In all the volumes of celtic mythology which survive, there are no references to this practice, unlike the reams of evidence from Greece, Rome, or among the Samurai of Japan for example. You are entitled to your opinions, beliefs, and political agendas, but please don't put your beliefs into an historical article as if they were facts. It is a fact that Athenaeus made the comment that he made, it is not by any means a fact that this means his comment was accurate or that this was the reality among the Celts. Until you have proof quit putting this on the page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Drifter bob (talk • contribs) 01:49, 15 February 2007 (UTC).
- Hi, Bob. I did not originate nor invent the section you are objecting to. I personally have no opinion on the matter, and would prefer to believe that my ancestors only had relationships among consenting adults. I think we need to do a linguistic comparison of what words were used for "boy" vs "man" and what age range we're talking about. I think the reason people bring up the Roman pederasty thing is that some have assumed the various Roman writers were insulting the Celts with those sorts of statements, whereas if we understand that the Romans had homosexuality as an accepted part of their culture, there would be no reason to interpret the report as an insult. I think it is fair to report that historical account. I also think my reversion of your removal of an established part of the article is in accord with the consensus of the group who have been working on the article. A suggestion? I believe things will go better for you if you refrain from edit summaries that accuse people of having "a pedophile agenda." Slán ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 04:55, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I apologize if my tone seemed offensive, I should not have assumed that you were the author of this section.
I'm not accusing any individual specifically of having an agenda, but I do suspect that someone somewhere does have an agenda on this particular issue as it seems to get a heavy emphasis and considerable spin in many Wikipedia pages. It is not something I have a particular interest in, but I notice it frequently and in odd contexts. For example, the entire paragraph on family life in this Celtic article is about Pederasty. I don't see how this could possibly represent the principle nature of family life in any culture regardless of whether it was practiced. Maybe a big part of a military brotherhood or of educational practices for example. But family life is principally organized around child rearing as i understand it.
I think the extrapolation was the problem, not the quote. I have attempted to balance it, hopefully you will agree with my reorganization. I'm going to do further research on the subject as well. As for the Romans, as I pointed out in the talk page on the Celts, while a common practice among them Pederasty was also used as the basis of slander, perhaps most famously against Julius Caesar, and also against Tiberius. Many Roman writers complained of the Greek practice of pederasty of students sent to study with them. Read the Wikipedia page on Caesar to cite one example of this practice used as political slander.
Bottom line though is, again as I stated, I find it unlikely that this would be a widespread practice if there is no evidence of it in the literature of the Celts (at least that I know of), and also every society I know of where it was practiced widely were societies in which women were repressed, tightly controlled, and had a second class status to men, as with the Greeks, Samurai subculture in Japan, or in some Islamic contexts. I don't think this was the case with the Celts.
I'm interested in what the Celts were really like, if they indeed practiced pederasty than I want to know that, but I felt and still feel that the claim which was made was in fact placed there as part of an agenda which has more to do with modern politics than with ancient history.
Drifter bob 15:22, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
- Hi, Bob. I'll take a look at the changes you made. I agree that the paragraph as it stood yesterday definitely placed undue weight on theories of homosexuality among the Celts. While I don't want the theories deleted, the section must be expanded to be fair. While there are other tales about homosexuality among the Celts (a Middle Irish story about a lesbian relationship, for instance, which is treated as neither unusual or shameful in the text; I'll dig it up if we want it), I think then, just as now, that those who identified as exclusively homosexual were definitely in the minority and this should be reflected in the article.
- I am a bit confused about what time frame we're covering with that article. If we're just focusing on the Gauls, which some editors seem to have done, the statement that we have limited knowledge of Celtic family life is sort of true. But if we're including a later time period, there's a very significant amount known about early Irish family life. We can look to the Brehon laws, for instance. It is true that, in comparison to other patriarchal cultures of the time, women had a better lot in Ireland than in most other places; but life wasn't great for them. It's a brutal book, and I don't agree with everything in it, by any means, but Lisa Bitel's Land of Women is a pretty intense examination of Irish women's situation historically. ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 21:17, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
