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[edit] License tagging for Image:Tang.PNG
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[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!!!
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[edit] Map
I reverted the map change you made in Ming Dynasty because, while I understand the reason for making the change, the new map is far less detailed and informative and is not (verifiably) more accurate. If you believe that your map should nevertheless be used, please discuss on Talk:Ming Dynasty. --Nlu (talk) 04:44, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. As a member of the Wikipedia community, I would like to remind you of Wikipedia's neutral-point-of-view policy for editors, which you appear to have violated at Korean Peninsula. In the meantime, please be bold and continue contributing to Wikipedia. Thank you! (For more details as well as history on this issue, see Talk:Sea of Japan and Talk:East Sea). --Nlu (talk) 19:15, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Thanks ~~
I just read Talk:Emperor_Taizong_of_Tang#Taizong_be_concerned_in_a_refutation., and I thank both of you (you and Nlu) for this discussion. Both of you shown your sources, and made a really precise discussion to improve the article. Many thanks !
Yug (talk) 19:08, 18 January 2007 (UTC) <Yug, student, author of the french fr:Tang Taizong>
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[edit] 고구려.jpg
Are you sure Image:고구려.jpg is your own work? You can't just scan a map in a book and put in on Wikipedia or the Commons. Wikipeditor 12:24, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:고구려.jpg)
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[edit] Emperor Taizong of Tang & Tang Dynasty
If you don't stop edit-warring over Emperor Taizong of Tang and Tang Dynasty, making edits with no explanations, no sources, and no discussion at the Talk page, you may be blocked from editing. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 23:42, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- Second warning and last chance: stop it. Note that the edit summary "rv to last edit before edit-war" is not acceptable when used by someone involved in that war. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 12:56, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Tang Taizong map : Thanks for your action (reverted Keizhen)
I just come to thanks your modification from image:TANG.PNG to Image:TANG_1.PNG, this modification is more occurate according what I have read in the Cambridge history of China.
Moreove, I want thanks you for your previous "opposition" against user:Keizhen. According to my knowledge and the Cambridge history of China : you were right. So I also reverted Keizhen : Goguryo have not to be include in Tang Taizong territories.
Just, please act more slowly when you revert people. Event if you are right, you need to explain (often lot), which allow other to trust you.
Good day to you Yug (talk) 16:13, 4 February 2007 (UTC) 
Thanks
[edit] hello
Please do not delete other users' comments, like what you did with Talk: Goguryeo. It is against official policy of wikipedia, and it's not right. Even if it it's a personal attack to you, it should be dealt with a warning and a cross-out, but never should be deleted. You also make us Koreans look like losers when you do that. Odst 23:38, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hi
I'm just posting this to inform you of a slight grammatical error, which I hope you won't mind.;)
| “ | Hi. my name is Park Seunghyun. I'm user of Korean Wikipedia. | ” |
Hi, my name is Park Seunghyun. I'm a user of the Korean Wikipedia.
Good day to you.:) - Qwerty ([[User talk:Qwerty Binary|talk)]] 06:59, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh yeah, ... uh, to the above "hello", yes, it is against the Wikipedia rules to remove of user comments.
[edit] Fair use
Please make yourself familiar with our fair use policy - it clearly states that images licensed under fair use are not allowed in user namespace (that is, on user pages), only in articles and only if a good fair use rationale is provided. Regards, Миша13 15:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "Discuss from a Goguryeo angle"
Doing so would violate WP:NPOV. --Nlu (talk) 04:36, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] My concern about issues of conduct
Hello, Korea history, and thank you for contributing to Wikipedia!
I hope not to seem unfriendly or make you feel unwelcome, but after reading some of your text, I am concerned that Wikipedia's policies and guidelines might not have been properly presented to you, and that you may encounter criticism for appearing not to follow them. After you look over the documents linked above, could we discuss that concern here?
Your continuing to edit in a POV manner, as well as giving little, if any, explanation for your edits, is troubling. Please modify your behavior. (In particular, please read WP:NPOV and follow it.) If you continue this behavior, a request for comment may be filed. --Nlu (talk) 16:54, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I'd appreciate learning your own views, for instance whether you were aware of these documents, what is your philosophy about interacting with other editors, and what alternative approaches you might willingly adopt that would avoid raising this concern.
You have several options freely available to you:
- If you can relieve my concern through discussing it here, I can stop worrying about it.
- If the two of us can't agree here, we can ask for help through Wikipedia's dispute resolution process, such as asking for a "third opinion", or requesting comments from other Wikipedians. Admins usually abide by agreements reached through this process.
- If you prefer not to deal with me at all, you can ask others for guidance: there are experienced Wikipedians who offer mentorship, "adoption", or advocacy; and many admins will also make the time to answer earnest questions on their talk pages (though some are either very busy or away on "Wikibreak").
- Any time you feel overwhelmed by the complexity of it all, you can simply post {{helpme}} here on your talk page, with a description of your questions or problems, and someone will show up to help you find answers or solutions.
Let me reassure you that my writing here means I don't think your conduct is so bad as to get reported straight to administrator noticeboards or get you summarily blocked. I hope matters will never become that severe. So I look forward to a friendly discussion, and to enjoying your continued participation on Wikipedia. Thank you again! -- Nlu (talk) 16:54, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Korean Castles
승현님 안녕하십니까 ! Thanks for your countributions to this article. Hope that this article would be as well documented as Japanese castle and List of castles in Japan articles. Regards. Whlee 18:22, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Balhae Rulers
Hi i 'd like to inform you that: - 11th : Emperor Jang of Balhae 장제/장왕 (莊帝/莊王) is the posthumous name of 대이진 (大彛震) - 12th : Emperor An of Balhae 안제/안왕 (安帝/安王) is the posthumous name of 대건황 (大虔晃) Regards Whlee 14:24, 6 March 2007 (UTC) 영어로 하세요 자기 한국말은 잘 못 알아들기니까. 감사합니다 ! Whlee 14:35, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- 대이진 and 대건황→Why 장왕 and 안왕? What is your authority for that statement? consult a Korea history textbook, 장왕 and 안왕 is probably not true. 영어를 잘 못해서 틀린말이 많을껍니다. 이해해주세요.
---Korea history 14:50, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bonjour
Bonjour monsieur Seung. Je suis un nationalist libre de Corée. J'aime modifie les articles dans Wikipédias de les versions différents. J'aime Corée, mais n'aime pas japon. Je suis un coréen et je suis orgueilleux à sois un coréen. Je suis aussi un Wikipédian Nationalist, laquel moyens cet je suis un membre de Wikipédian nationalist association. Merci beaucoupe monsieur. Je respecte vous. Orthodoxy 00:02, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] RfC regarding your behavior
An request for comment has been made regarding your behavior. You are welcome to respond to it, but are not required to until and unless another user certifies my request. --Nlu (talk) 18:34, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Goguryeo_1.jpg
Please do not put fair use images on your user page. As explained by Миша13 previously, it's violation of our fair use policy. --Kusunose 05:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] 저기요.....
유저 페에지에 있는 것을 좀 바꾸셨으면 합니다. 아무리 감정이 상해도, 그런 식으로 욕을 바가지로 하면 안돼죠. -General Tiger
[edit] Proposed community ban
I have proposed a community ban on you. See WP:CN. If you wish to defend your behavior, feel free to do so. --Nlu (talk) 17:38, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Yet another warning for the use of fair use images on the user page
Please stop. If you continue to ignore our fair use policy, you will be blocked. --Kusunose 14:48, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Moving pages
Hi! It looks like you're trying to move one or more pages, as you did with Guknae seong. However, please stop doing that this way - the new name of the page might be good, but Wikipedia has another procedure for moving pages. Look at Help:Renaming (moving) a page: you need to use the move tab, and not cut and paste. Cut and paste moves don't take the edit history with them and thus violate the GFDL copyright terms. Also, in some cases, when the move might be controversial, you might first want to discuss the move on the article's talk page. If a move is not possible because a page with the new name already exists, go to Wikipedia:Requested moves. Thanks! --Kusunose 03:34, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] minor edits
Please remember to mark your edits as minor when (and only when) they genuinely are minor edits (see Wikipedia:Minor edit). Marking a major change as a minor one (and vice versa) is considered poor etiquette. The rule of thumb is that only an edit that consists solely of spelling corrections, formatting and minor rearranging of text should be flagged as a 'minor edit'. Thanks! --Kusunose 05:05, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Your behavior
This is your last warning.
The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Your behavior is not acceptable. Do it again and I'll block you, notwithstanding any potential conflict of interests issues. If that happens, you can take it to the ArbCom to complain about my block when the block expires. --Nlu (talk) 14:02, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
--Nlu (talk) 14:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hey! How are you doing?
Hey! I see that you're blocked for now, but when you come again, could you reply to me? At Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Korea history, Nlu proposed the expulsion of your account. I have protested firmly & at the same time agreed to communicate with you, since Nlu says that you ignore everybody, even at your own talk page.
So, could you explain yourself? Defend against what Nlu accused of you. For example, he says that you don't use summaries, & you rarely discuss first before talking on discussion pages. (Wikimachine 17:09, 18 March 2007 (UTC))
- You're back to the same type of behavior before the 3RR block. Do it again and you'll draw at least a 48-hour block. --Nlu (talk) 13:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
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- 님, 국제위키백과협회에 참석 하실 생각이 있습니까? 한국어를 잘 하시는것 같은데. 님이 이 협회에 참여하신다면 많은 사람들 한테 큰 도움이 될것입니다. 그리고 국제위키백과협회문서는: Wikipedia: Association of International Wikipedians입니다. 감사합니다. (blocking이 풀리시면 싸인을 해주십시오. Orthodoxy 13:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
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- 님을 풀려주는데에 최선을 다하겠습니다. 저는 미국에 너무 너무 오래 살아서 영어가 한국어 보다 더 좋습니다. 지금 미국은 오전 9:56분 입니다. 저는 학교 안에 있으니 지금 당장은 많은 것을 못합니다. 죄송합니다. 제가 님을 어떻게 도울수 있습니까? 휴식시간이 끝나시 전에 빨리 하문에 대답을 해 주시옵소서. 감사합니다. Orthodoxy 13:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
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- 지금 학교에 계시다면 학교가 끝나고, 제 토론 기록을 봐서 Nlu가 어떤 부정한 행동을 했는지 잘 살펴보시고, 어떤식으로 반박해야하는지 영어로 번역해서 보내주시면 감사 하겠습니다. (Korea history 14:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC))
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- You can't read Korean? I don't know what you mean by "translate". (Wikimachine 16:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC))
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- 님, 님이 고구려 문서에 고구려가 한국것이라고 계속 우기셨습니까, 아니면 논리적으로 인터넷에 있는 정보를 이용하여 argue를 하셨습니까? 저는 님이 무었을 했든 상관 않하고 님을 도울것입니다 (왜냐하면 같은 한국이니까요). 제가 Nlu님께 말씀을 들이기 전에 님이 무엇을 했는지 알고 싶네요. 무작정 Nlu님께 가서 님을 풀어달라는건 좀 예의가 없잖아요. 하지만 저는 항상 님의 쪽에 있습니다. 그것을 명심하십시오. 아, 그리고 님이 제가 하는일이 무었인지 물어보셨지요? 저는 국제위키백과협회를 만든 사장 (아니면 그냥 리더) 입니다. 제가 국제위키백과를 만든 이유는 모든 나라의 위키백과들을 통일 하는 것입니다. 예를 들어 영어위키백과에 있는 문서들을 번역해서 한국어 위키백과로 보내는 것입니다. 물론 많은 시간이 걸리겠지만 많은 사람들이 참여를 한다면 빨리 통일이 될것입니다. 그렇다고 한국만 위해서가 아니라 전 세계의 위키백과들을 위해서 만든 것입니다. 저는 윈래의 본 사장 이었지만 나이가 어리고 아직도 학생이라서 사장자리를 맞(맡?)을 시간이 않됩니다. 그래서 저는 제가 아는 어떤 프랑스 위키백과인에게 사장 자리를 건내줄 생각입니다. 님도 번역을 하는데에 참여를 해주십시오. 우리 모두가 참여를 하면 한국어 위키백과를 영어위키백과보다도 더 좋게 만들수 있을것입니다. 이것이 저의 위키배과의 꿈 입니다. 참여를 해주신다면 많은 감사를 드립니다. 여기에 AINW에서 English to/from Korean에 서명을 싸인해주십니오. 감사합니다. Orthodoxy 21:29, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] AINW
AINW에 참여를 해주셔서 감사합니다. 많은 도움이 될것입니다. 곧 Nlu님 한테 말을 할테니 걱정을 하지 마십시오. 감사합니다. Orthodoxy 18:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The rulers of Bukbuyeo
Hi, i'm Kprideboi. I was mainly responsible for the creation of the articles regarding the seven rulers of Bukbuyeo. I was wondering if there was any way that we could connect the articles more to the other parts of Korean history that are presented in Wikipedia. I would like to ask for your ideas. Do u think that the Buyeo (state) article is still necessary? --Kprideboi 21:00, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Unspecified source for Image:Goguryeo 1.jpg
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[edit] Unspecified source for Image:Goguryeo-Tang wars Map In 645.JPG
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[edit] User Page Offensive
Er... Um... It's kinda offensive, no, really... It's even written with a basic level of Korean...
English Translation: I'm a descendant of Goguryo. If you touch Goguryo, you'll pay for it!!! Trying to steal others' ancestors... And you Chinese say that Koreans are the descendants of Shinla, well, it's not entirely untrue but what do what have you got to say after stubbornly insisting that the history of Goguryo is yours when you had no interest in it whatsoever in the past!!!
Just you wait I'll pay you back after I learn English perfectly... Darn Dogs...
Original: 난 고구려의 후손이다. 고구려 건들면 큰 벌을 받게 될 것이다!!! 감히 남의 나라 조상들을 빼앗으려 하다니... 그리고 너희 중국놈들이 한국은 신라후손이라 주장하는데 아주 틀린말은 아니지만 평상시엔 고구려 거들떠도 안보던 것들이 이제와서 고구려가 지네역사라고 우기는 놈들이 무슨 할 말이 있어!!!
기다려라 영어를 완벽히 배우고 나서 조목조목 반박 해주마... 짱깨들아....
한글 치기 위해 PC에서 로그인 했습니다. 나라 위해서입니다. 일 나기 전에 빨리 User Page 고치세요 (그리고 한글 쓰면은 욕한다고 생각합니다 :S)
I'm currently on my laptop, (can't be bothered to boot my PC) and I wanna explain why I wrote it in English.
Despite being warned by many users, you still kept your old user page. By translating it to English, I wanted an immediate reaction (which I got).
I already know that China is 'drowning' our history of Goguryo with theirs, and tryin' to say that the pyramids in Goguryo is theirs, but swearing on one's user page is not the way to show the truth.
As time goes by, more and more people foreign people speak Korean, and when they read your user page, who are they gonna accuse of being a barbarian, and a darn dog? Anyways, thanks for removing it :D (keep in mind, I didn't report ya...).
By the way, the last thing I said 'bout foreigners thinking that you're sayin' something rude when you say Korean, that was just an extra trivia. What I meant was offensive was the actual content of your user page.
Edited a few times, Chokelius 15:45pm (GMT), 25th March
(I forgot to log in when I wrote the above. It was me who wrote it)
[edit] 답변.
일단은 누루님께 말을 해보았습니다. 아직 답변이 않왔으니 잠깐만 기다려주십시오. 제가 만든 AINW는 삭제가 되고 말았습니다. 왜냐하면 어드스트레이터들이 AINW 문서의 질이 다른 wikipedia association 에 비해서 떨어진다고 하였기 때문입니다. 하지만 곧 다시 더 좋게 만들 것이니 걱정하지 마십시오. 만약에 다시 서명을 싸인 하시게 되시면 싸인을 한후 영어 위키백과에 있는 아무 문서나 통역을 하셔서 한국어 위키백과에 같다 놓으시면 되는것입니다. 원하시는 subject가 있으시면 뮈 유럽이나 미국에 대한것을 한국어 위키백과에 같다 놓으셔도 됩니다.
- 아참, 그리고 미국은 지금 봄 방학이니까 그 사이에 한국어를 더 많이 공부햐여 위키백과에 있는 한국사람들을 더 많이 도울수 있도록 할것입니다. 곧 저는 저의 한국어 능력을 올릴 것입니다. 그럼, Ce a fini. Orthodoxy 15:35, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
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quote: "As to Korea history, his/her behavior is/was unacceptable. He/she doesn't discuss edits, rarely uses edit summaries, and when he/she does either does so with abusive language. Moreover, he/she freely removes uncontested improvements and inserts language that is horrendous in both style and grammar, just for POV-pushing purposes. I have had disagreements with many editors here, but those are genuine disagreements as to opinion. Korea history's edits were disruptive. --Nlu (talk) 16:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)"
- 위에 있는 글은 Nlu님이 저한테 한 말입니다. 제가 들은 바로는 님이 edit summary를 않 남기셨고 막 자기의 주장만 어긴다고 하셨습니다. 이게 사실입니까? 저는 님 쪽에 있으니 걱정하지 마십시오. 제가 지금 님이 무엇을 해야되는지 대충 말해보겠습니다. Nlu님 한테 (가짜)사과를 한후 일단 용서를 받으십시오. 그러면 이 일은 다 풀려 나갈것입니다. 제가 누루님한테 말을 한후 누루님이 님을 이번만은 놓아 준다고 하셨습니다. 한국역사님, 제가 인제 님을 풀려 주었으니 Nlu님 한테가서 사과를 드리는 일밖에 남지 않았습니다. 그후에는 항상 어느 문서나 edit할떼는 Discussion page에서 토론을 먼저 하셔야 합니다. 아니면 edit summary정도라도 하셔야 합니다. 자유영어위키백과인이 다시 된것을 환영합니다. 저도 AINW를 만들었다가 실폐한 꼴이니 우리 같이 다시 시작해봅시다. 어떻습니까, 함께 같이 새롭께 시작할 생각이 있으십니까? 그럼 그날까지. 안녕히게십시오. Orthodoxy 21:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- 저는 님을 위해서, 아니 님과 한국을 위해서 아무 번역이나 충실히 하겠습니다. 근데 제 한국어 실력이 좀 떨어져서... :( 그래도 한국어 능력을 높이는데에 최선을 다하겠습니다. 사실 저는 초등학교 2학년때 미국에와서 한국어를 제대로 못 배욌습니다. 그래도 제 아버지가 한국에서 전과들을 매년 사들고 오셔서 겨우 여기까지 한국어를 배욌습니다. 햐튼, 저는 님의 문서를 번역을 하는데에 최선을 다하겠습니다. 아, 그리고 이페이지: wikipedia: translations에 가면 위키백과의 문서들을 번역할때 필요한 가이드와 법칙이 있습니다. 저는 처음 한국어 위키백과에서 번역을 했을때 이 번역법칙서를 않 따라서 한국위키백과인들 한테 도난을 당했습니다. 그리고 한가지더, 저는 프랑스어도 웬만큼 하니까 한국에 대한 문서들을 프랑스어 위키백과에도 번역을 해놓겠습니다. 그리고 곳 일본어도 배울것이니 일본어 위키백과에도 번역을 하겠습니다. 님이 번역이 필요한 문서가 무엇인지 말씀만 해주십시오. 영어나 프랑스어나 일본어로 번역을 하겠습니다. 그럼, j'ai fini. 안녕히 계십시오.Orthodoxy 04:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- 예, 님의 답변을 잘 받았습니다. 저의 이메일은 younilha1@naver.com 입니다. 하지만 24시간 안에 답장을 윈하시면 ilhayoun@gmail.com 으로 보내 주십시오. 앞으로 님과 같이 최선을 다하면서 대한민국의 이름을 세계에 날리겠습니다. 감사합니다. Orthodoxy 22:27, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
