Talk:List of House episodes

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Contents 1 Episode Synopses 2 TWoP 3 Music 4 IMDB summaries 5 Skipped episode? 6 Need a list of medical terms used in the show 7 the chart format is ugly 8 Links to relevent titles? 9 Music Removed? 10 Plot synopsis for future episodes 11 Individual Episode Pages 12 Next airdate in a month? 13 Reformatting 14 Episodes Nomination for Deletion 15 Merry Little Christian? or Christmas 16 Featured list at some point? 17 Do not copy articles from TVIV 18 Airdates of House AfD 19 Episode Writer Citations 20 Summaries 21 One Day, One Room 22 Summaries consistant 23 Removing primary sources 24 Final Diagnosis column spoilers 25 Countries where House is aired 25.1 Airing in different countries 26 Season 2 Episode, TB or not TB 27 Recently added text to Articles 28 Pre-episode airing?

[edit] Episode Synopses

I'm concerned with these synopses' provenance; they are, in a stunning display of irony, too good. If someone wants to take credit for them, and say they're original (they're uneven: some of them are clearly original, some read like they came out of TV Guide), fine. Otherwise, I guess I'll buckle down and rewrite them.
--Baylink 00:51, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Good call, plugging the long ones into google quickly shows they're copied. --W(t) 01:34, 2005 Jun 1 (UTC)

I just made some spelling/grammar corrections to this article before seeing the comments. If you'd like to split the job of rewriting the summaries, I'd be happy to help. I'll check back here.--64.203.152.181 14:34, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Spoiler material - How should it be treated (if at all posted). This is speficially referring to Season 2's final episode, which was had a twist that the current summery doesn't quite sum up.--AlphaTwo 14:50, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Here's what I think: short summaries on this page make it like a list format similar to List of Lost episodes or List of South Park episodes. Then place the other episodes in either own articles or on a season page whichever the consensus prefers. Minor spoilers are fine in my opinion but especially with last night's you don't want to be too revealing...that's for the other page. Also, I'm looking for pictures however FOX only starts with 206 which is just half of a season. Sfufan2005 20:32, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Is anybody doing anything with this? Season 2's finale reads as a plot summary, while the other episodes read as a brief description, similar to what you may find in TV Guide or under an "Info" sort've thing from your cable provider. Tim 05:00, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

"I'm concerned with these synopses' provenance; they are, in a stunning display of irony, too good." - I disagree. They are all separate articles and therefore deserve any and all information related to the episode, as long as the information is factual, NPOV, and formulaic. SousaFan88 07:17, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Spoilers again. I thought the synopses were pretty good. Actually, I thought they were dry, tv-guide type descriptions of the set up. So I was quite happy to check the name of episode five. Only to find myself spoiled for it. Maybe it's a minor part of the final solution (I hope so), but it was still a shock. I don't think that any part of the 'solution' shoul be in the summaries. Sex Kills is a much better example. RoseWill220.253.28.60 07:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)poo

[edit] TWoP

Why is there a TWOP recap link to every episode summary? My objection to TWOP is that they don't allow any feedback or commentary on their recaps (apart from "great recap") and more often than not they aren't really recaps of the episodes but an extended gripe or lovefest by the author. There's really no attempt to recount what happened in any particular episode. I've looked for a rationale of why TWOP is being promoted so heavily here but I couldn't find one. As a wikipedia user I would much prefer to see, at most, one link indicating that more episode information can be found at that site. Since there is already a link on the main page maybe no additional link is needed at all. Actinium 18:53, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

I wouldn't object to linking to other site's recaps for the eps, too, if there were workable direct links to such recaps (as long as things didn't get out of hand). I *do* think we ought to cut our *own* episode pages, though, and unlink the titles in the table. Votes?

Seriously, is there some sort of kickback that someone is getting for including so many TWOP links? Part of the way the reviewers or recappers is paid is based on traffic, traffic which Wikipedia is strangely just handing to them. They are making money because someone has turned Wikipedia traffic into TWOP traffic. It seems wrong and it affects adversely Wikipedia's credibility. Why not just use one link at the bottom of the page?

What happened to the tv.com links? I think tv.com is far far better than the TWoP links. --antilived ^{trash vandal results} 11:06, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Music

If anyone has time, I think it would be nice to add what music is featured in each episode... that is one of the most searched-for pieces of info regarding this show, and is very encyclopedic. I'll try to start adding some soon 69.142.21.24 09:29, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

That is a VERY good idea, I'm going to start going through episodes 1-8 to try to figure out what songs are used. Jules su 1:45, 7 March 2006 (PST)

Cool idea, since there is almost commerical music in every episode. Sfufan2005 20:54, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, I'm having trouble figureing out which music is commercial and which isn't. I assumed that all the background soft stuff was done for the show, as I haven't recognized any of it. Jules su 13:10, 7 March 2006 (PST)

Yeah, that's definitely all score. The composer should be in the credits. But the music people recognize (i.e. One is the Loneliest Number in Occam's Razor) is what should be featured in the episode guide. Sfufan2005 22:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey great idea, if you go to IMDB you can find the soundtrack listing for each episode, but this requires going to each episode's page and clicking 'soundtrack'. Also you can check out the official Fox website. Patriarch 08:05, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IMDB summaries

The summaries on IMDB are very similar to the ones on Wikipedia. Can anyone verify which came first? Jules su 19:27, 12 March 2006 (PST)

[edit] Skipped episode?

Why do the episode labels skip from 2-16 to 2-18? (overall 38 to 40) Where is episode 2-17, #39? Mistake?

Yeah, that was a mistake on my behalf. Fixed it so everything should be fine now. Sfufan2005 21:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Need a list of medical terms used in the show

For the laymen, the dialog in the show just flew by without even knowing what all the medical terminologies really mean or how they are spelled. It would be useful to create a list of medical terms used in the show and cross reference them to this list of episodes. The wiki-links of these terms can help viewers read further about those terminologies, and add some educational value to the show. A less attractive alternative is to add those terms in this list along with each entry, but they may turn into spoilers for those who have not seen the episode yet. For example, mentioning tick paralysis would spoil this week's episode. IMO, it is better to have a separate list because some procedures and terms were used frequently in many episodes. Perhaps the list can be divided into symptoms, tests, treatment etc. Kowloonese 19:10, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion, that sort of unnessesary. I mean, it's not like adding music, which many people would want to know. Most of the medical terms are either explained in the show, or are shown (i.e. lumbar puncture) It's entirely too much work and just doesn't seem to fit in.jules_su 10:25, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Considering the fact that a good amount of the medical terminology used on the show is innaccurate or complete BS (particularly in the earlier shows) it seems really unnecessary. It's better just to go with the show's logic, and try to pick things up by context.

I think the pages for the episodes themselves can list the medical terminology in the plot summaries, where spoilers are going to be assumed. There are some episodes with pages already, but I can go through and add the rest in a couple of weeks time. RoseWIll220.253.28.60 08:05, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] the chart format is ugly

is it supposed to look like that, with the broken horizontal chart? Can someone who is better with chart formatting than me clean this up a bit? 69.142.21.24 07:36, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I suggest keeping the chart however adding photos and making it look similar to other lists like List of Prison Break episodes or List of Grey's Anatomy episodes. Also, the summaries on this page should be about 1-2 lines with lengthier episode summaries on either season pages or individual episode pages. I just wanted to suggest this to other editors to gain feedback. Any suggestions? Sfufan2005 00:46, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject List of Television Episodes might be able to help :) The project is still getting back up to speed, but you can find some very good advice via Template:Episode list and Template talk:Episode list. Hope that helps. -- Ned Scott 06:46, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Did a quick fix on the DVD cover Chart. It should look a little bit more like the charts on other pages. A few other questions for those better at this kind of thing than I. Shouldn't the episode chart be seperated into Seasons 1 and 2? Also, what is the Second number under the Episodes part for?

[edit] Links to relevent titles?

Some of the titles of episodes contain refrences that I think ought to be linked to. For example, "Occam's Razor" and "Socratic Method" should be linked to the respective articles somwhere. Having the titles themselves be links seems out of place, so I'll be bold and add links as "see also—Link" Ce1984 21:01, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Music Removed?

For some reason, all the music was removed from the first season, for seemingly no reason. I'm assuming it's vandalism, and I'm putting it back.

All the music is already liste on the individula episode pages--Dr. Zaius 13:13, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

So what? People who are looking for music are not going to search each and every episode page for it. I have not seen any discussion or input from anyone.--Jules su 17:46, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree with having the music on individual pages. This has been discussed in the past on several episode pages prior. Keeping a short synopsis on this page makes it more neater and organized as opposed to lists with long summaries and trivia bits. A full summary, music and trivia sections should be on the individual pages. If the person is looking for music, I'm pretty sure they will make an effort to find it on these respective pages. This is not meant to be an inconvenience or a personal attack, its just intended for neatness purposes. Sfufan2005 01:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Alright, sounds reasonable.--Jules su 23:50, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plot synopsis for future episodes

It was my impression that the policy regarding future episode synopsis are that they are added only after the episode airs. It's supposed to help maintain the integrity of the page. Am I mistaken? --MZMcBride 03:08, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

No, you are correct. Also, the synopses on this page should be shorter which are expected to be expanded in the individual articles. Sfufan2005 03:24, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

In order to allow no speculation, crystal-balling, or future plot reveals that most people have no way of knowing, I've made the plot synopsis for future episodes hidden and added a line about when they should be added (once the episode airs). Thanks. --MZMcBride 02:24, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable enough, however it seems like someone removed all the hidden plot summaries. Chad Hennings 04:41, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Individual Episode Pages

Everyone of the episode pages needs work. There are no cites, extended plots, and information that is best left out all together. Whoever is monitoring this page and those pages should read this Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Television episodes. This is the policy created to establish guidelines for episode pages. If you do not have well referenced material try developing Seasonal pages until you do. Bignole 12:51, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Next airdate in a month?

Episode #3.15 is stated as being aired on October 31st, why is it skipping a month? Error? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by AS Artimour (talk • contribs).

Baseball. Won't be back on until after the World Series.--MZMcBride 01:41, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reformatting

This entire list and it's episode articles it links too, needs to be reformatted. Most the episodes are not notable enough to require there own articles, all except the Pilot (House) article which I've reformatted and have nominated it for FA. Beyond that, the episode articles are filled with bloated Plot Overviews and filled with lists of useless trivia. They should all be merged into this article and rewritten with comprehensive synopsis as most of the other information can either be merged or deleted. Might I add, that "Referback" is not even a word, yet it appears in almost every House episode article. The Filmaker 17:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Episodes Nomination for Deletion

• What happened to all the episodes? Were they deleted? I think this could've been worked out without having to be deleted. That's just my opinion. Sfufan2005 20:40, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

It appears that they were deleted on October 30 due to copyvio issues. --MZMcBride 22:09, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

You've gotta be kidding. MacintoshApple

Copyright violation for quotes, for stealing summaries, or just for describing the plots? Because I'm willing to write up my own summaries of the plots and find the references and everything, but not if it's going to be deleted again. RoseWill220.253.28.60 08:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merry Little Christian? or Christmas

I think there's a bit of confusion with the upcoming Christmas episode of House. The original title was Christian however I have found 2 very reliable sources TV.com, IMDB episode entry and TheFutonCritic which releases press notices from FOX, the network and if they say it's Merry Little Christmas, it's Christmas. I would appreciate if the revert warring would stop since I've found only one site that backs up "Merry Little Christian" which is a fan site which should never be taken as an official source since fan sites are most likely to be filled with speculation and fancruft and not official information. Feel free to leave comments. Sfufan2005 21:47, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, when I cited my two sources (TV.com and some other one) a couple days ago, they both read Merry Little Christian. I moved the page accordingly. I hate it when sources change their information :(. (By the way, was there an edit war going on? I only changed the title and moved the page once.) PullToOpen - talk 22:08, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured list at some point?

I (and probably some other users) am trying to make this into a featured list at some point. There are many things we will have to do with this article, and I would like to lay them out here. Note that this is just a personal opinion and doesn't reflect any specific policies.

1. CITE. We've done a pretty good job on this, but anything that isn't common knowlege and hasn't happened yet needs to be cited. This includes speculated directors for an episode, air dates, and probably episode names themselves.
2. BE CONSISTANT. A person pointed out at this article's peer review that the episode summaries need to be consistant. They either need to be an elaborate summary or a simple blurb, but it can't be both.
3. IMPROVE THE LEAD. The lead paragraph of this article is lacking, and it needs to be fixed. Please expand it according to WP:LEAD.
4. FAIR USE. Most of the images used on this page are fair use, but are not marked as such. A detailed fair use rationale should be on the image's page. Write the fair use thing according to WP:FU and WP:FUC.

Thank you, and good luck. I certainly hope I'm not the only person working on this. PullToOpen^Talk 20:08, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Do not copy articles from TVIV

I have tagged Cursed (House episode), Sports Medicine (House episode), Poison (House episode) and Mob Rules (House episode) for speedy deletion. They are unquestionably blatant copies of the corresponding versions at TVIV, a television wiki. TVIV uses a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.5 License, which is incompatible with Wikipedia's own GNU Free Documentation License. I had nothing to do with the earlier round of deletions mentioned above, but I suspect they were deleted for the same reason. Do not recreate the articles by copying the content from TVIV, they will only be deleted again. – Anþony  talk  12:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

The people who make these pages don't read talk pages. This message won't help. *sigh* I thought we were behind this. PTO 15:00, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Airdates of House AfD

I have listed Airdates of House (TV series) for AfD. The nomination can be found here. Thanks. -- Wikipedical 20:42, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Episode Writer Citations

I recently took out a citation referring to Leonard Dick as the episode writer, since the episode's credits confirm it. There is no need for a citation after the fact since none of the other past episodes have citations. I believe citations should only be used for future episodes. Since the episode has passed it is no longer needed and should be taking out. Sfufan2005 00:14, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Took out pointer to David Foster, because it links to the wrong David Foster. jojomehndi 00:14, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Summaries

Doesn't it seem better if the summaries (not the column named Final Diagnosis) didn't have the diagnosis in it. It makes the summaries longer and it's unneeded when we have a category for the diagnosis anyway.
Blindman shady 18:11, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Somebody from an AfD for List of House episodes merged it, and I didn't like it very much so I made the Final Diagnosis section. It's probably a good idea to remove for now. I have the master copy in my userspace if anybody needs it at User:PullToOpen/Sandbox. PTO 23:22, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] One Day, One Room

This episode has been said to air next[1], contrary to the episode template on every House episode page. How do you you change it so One Day, One Room comes after Words and Deeds and not after Needle in a Haystack?
Blindman shady 17:56, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I checked IMDB and TV.com, both of which listed the episodes in the order shown. I also couldn't find any reference to the upcoming episode names on FOX's website. The list can be edited here, if you can verify that your info correct. Thanks. --MZMcBride 20:51, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Right here: "NEWS: New episodes return on Tuesday January 30th with "One Day One Room." Dave Matthews guest stars as a music savant in an episode airing in March." Look for it, it's very easily noticeable and Fox is more depenable than TV.com or IMDB.

Blindman shady 04:23, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Summaries consistant

Okay, so, 2 things are done. A while ago, I made an effort to shorten the summaries to one-liners and one sentences except where it is needed. Should we cross that off our list or do we still need to work on it?
Blindman shady 18:31, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah, excellent! I'm suprised that I didn't notice...anyway, I'll go ahead and cross it off the list. Only a few more things to go! PTO 02:51, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removing primary sources

Removed all IMDB references and will continue to look for references to replace them.
Blindman shady 03:22, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Final Diagnosis column spoilers

I think we need to remove the "Final Diagnosis" column as it spoils the episodes for those who haven't seen them but only want info on titles and airdates. The final diagnosis is the climactic point of the episode when the puzzle is finally solved. I mean can you imagine a list of whodunits with the column "Murderer." Sandtiger 18:27, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Back in December, when this list was going through its FLC, people pointed out that the list would be better with the diagnoses placed somewhere on the page. Thus, the "Final Diagnosis" column was born. Wikipedia is not censored, so if you don't want to have the story spoiled for you, you shouldn't be reading this. PTO 19:10, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not censored has nothing to do with this. Did you even click your own link to see what it said at the other end? Spoilers are clearly not offensive or outwith cultural or religious norms. And no-one is asking for their wholesale removal.

Kowtowing to people unrelated to the edition and target audience of an article, merely in an attempt to become Featured, is not really much of a justification. Doubly so, because this page was rejected for other reasons, and they've still not been addressed.

Off the top of my head, I can think of at least one more use case for this list, and that's finding out when the next episode airs. Which is great if it's not aired yet, but if it has, smack beside the air date is a great big spoiler for it. 80.168.174.98 11:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Upon further reflection, the real problem is not that the final diagnosis is reported, but that it is positioned between the episode number and air date. These columns are kept together in other episode lists, such as the ones for Buffy, MEGAS or Seinfeld. I suggest moving it either to the far right, or even removing it and folding the content into the synopsis ('X was finally diagnosed with Hypochondria'). Such a change would increase stylistic consistency, as well addressing the spoiler complaint. 80.168.174.98 11:25, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. By moving it all the way to the right, it would be possible to just resise one's browser, to block out the final diagnosis. GavinTing 09:31, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Countries where House is aired

In the first paragraphy, it states "Now, House airs in 28 countries. For the full list of countries that House is aired in, click here." The "here" link doesnt seem to lead anywhere. GavinTing 14:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I will fix the first "paragraphy" then. :)
Blindman shady 18:25, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Crap, I see what you mean. They must have deleted the list, it is here:
Blindman shady 18:29, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

So, should it be added to the article? GavinTing 00:13, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Ask PullToOpen, he runs this article.
Blindman shady 03:30, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Airing in different countries

• In Argentina, House (Dr. House) is aired on Universal Channel (subtitled) and on Canal 13 (Argentina) (dubbed).
• In Australia, House is broadcast on Network Ten. Network Ten aired reruns of House for several weeks. Because of the early time, it was classified PG, instead of its usual M rating. In December 2006, House Season One will be airing on Foxtel and Austar Channel TV1. House Season three is set to premiere in Australia on the 7th of February 2007.
• In New Zealand, the first two seasons of House have been aired on TV3. The third season starts airing weekly on Tuesday, 30th January 2007.
• In Brazil, House is broadcast in cable channel Universal Channel.
• In Belgium, House is aired on two channels. For Dutch-speakers, it is aired as "House, M.D." on VTM, with Dutch subtitles. For the French-speaking Belgians, a dubbed "Dr. House" airs on RTL-TVI.
• In Bulgaria, House aired on February 2, 2007.
• In Chile, House is aired on TVN and on Universal Channel
• In the Czech Republic, House is broadcast on commercial television Nova.
• In Finland, House is aired on MTV3.
• In Germany, House (Dr. House) is aired on commercial channel RTL. The second season is currently being aired.
• In Greece, House (Ιατρικές Υποθέσεις)is broadcast on commercial channel STAR.
• In Hungary, House (Doktor House) is broadcast on TV2.
• In Hong Kong, House is broadcast on TVB Pearl and AXN.
• In Iceland, House is broadcast on Skjáreinn
• In Ireland, House is broadcast on Channel 6
• In Israel, House is broadcast on HOT3.
• In Italy, House (Dr. House) is broadcast on SKY Italia and Italia 1. The third season started airing weekly on Friday, 19th January 2007 on Italia 1.
• In Japan, House is aired on Fox TV on cable television. Season 1 finished at the end of 2006.
• In Mexico, House (Dr. House) is aired on Canal 5, with dubbing.
• In the Middle East, House is broadcast on private channel TV Land on the Showtime network.
• In North America, House currently airs Tuesday nights at 9 p.m. (Eastern/Pacific) on Fox, and is simulcast on Global in Canada. The second season premiered on September 13, 2005 and ended on May 23, 2006. During the summer of 2006, Fox showed reruns of the show in its current timeslot. The show was then renewed for a third season and premiered on September 5, 2006, moving up to the 8 p.m. slot for its four episodes in September.

[edit] Season 2 Episode, TB or not TB

Is the summary for this correct? As I remember, Sebastian collapsed whilst requesting more medicine for the african kids. The summary seems abit wrong, as it kinda shows that he fell sick in africa and somehow was sent to House. This could be mistaken to mean that he was sent to an african hospital and subsequently sent to princeton-plainsboro. Maybe the summary could be changed to show that he collapsed whilst requesting for said medication? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GavinTing (talk • contribs) 02:17, 16 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Recently added text to Articles

They are copied articles from TV.com. Could someone revert them as I don't feel liek doing it.
Blindman shady 03:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)poo

[edit] Pre-episode airing?

If there are sources for production details, specifically the author of episodes, should they be entered before the episode airs? It's not spoiler/speculation if the author comes out saying they wrote a certain episode. CrashCart9 04:40, 28 March 2007 (UTC) (Oops, somehow I got logged out.)