User talk:Mani1
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Please do not add unhelpful and non-constructive information to Wikipedia, as you did to 300 (film). Your edits could be considered vandalism, and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.Arcayne 10:38, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
See also: User talk:Mani1/archive1
[edit] Ethnic politics of Khuzestan
Please discuss with other editors on the talk page before deleting large amounts of content from this article. Thank you. --88.110.65.227 16:48, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Silsilat al-nasab-e Safaviyyeh
Hi You were the first non-IP editor of the above article so here I am at your talk page... the article itself does not have a talk page. I got to the article from hitting "random article". However the article does not actually tell me what Silsilat al-nasab-e Safaviyyeh is, just that it is about geneology. ie, is it a song, poem, novella, essay or something else entirely?
As you were a very early editor of the article I was hoping you are aware of what form the Silsilat al-nasab-e Safaviyyeh takes and could clarify the article for those of us who don't even know "it's a book" (or whatever it happens to be).
Although it seems you have a large number of contributions and may not get back to what might be a trivial cultural item (I am not sure if it is a geneology of a significant or a trivial family).
BTW: you may need to archive your talk page... Garrie 05:35, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- Hi.
It is a book about hagiography and genealogy of one of the most important dynasties (Safavids) in the Persian history.
I added the word book to the article.
Thanks for your attention, take care, --Mani1 09:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Malformed AfD
Mani, I removed the AfD notice from the Anti-Arabism page, because it was not technically correct and you didn't do the other necessary steps in nominating. Also, based on your edit summary people would probably accuse you of a WP:POINT violation. But feel free to re-nominate (ask me if you need help how to do it) - I said I'd support deletion of parallel articles, and so I will, although this one strikes me as slightly better than the other. Lukas (T.|@) 22:16, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- Hi.
It seems you are more familiar with the technically correct deletion processes. As you have gone through this trouble for trying to delete the informative article Anti-Persianism by Arabs, you are naturally expected to do the same for all such articles, otherwise you have been acting biased and selective. --Mani1 22:28, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Well no, I'm under no obligation. My time is just as limited as yours, and right now it's late at night here. Besides, my secret employers pay me only for vandalising Pro-Iranian articles, obviously, as Sina Kardar will be able to confirm. If you want to nominate and can't be bothered to ask me nicely, well, there are instructions at WP:AFD. But do read WP:POINT too. Lukas (T.|@) 22:34, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- I will nimonate that article in a technically correct way, the first moment I'll have more time for it. You should do the same for all such articles or pull back your nomination of the Anti-Persianism article if you wish to be unbiased and non-selective. You are of course not obliged to be unbised but we are also free to resist biased attacks on our informative and well-researched articles.
--Mani1 22:42, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The deletion tag
Salaam Mani jaan. You shouldn't remove the deletion tag until the voting is over and the AFD is officially closed by an administrator. Also, we had a long discussion on the talk page and we picked the title "Anti-Persian sentiments" which is more general and NPOV. --ManiF 10:38, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. But the "Anti-Persian sentiments" is a totally vague title, sentiments by who? where? when?
Take care. --Mani1 10:46, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
- Well, the who, where, and when is already discussed in the article. Chakerim. --ManiF 11:21, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Please revert LukasPietschs racist comments from my talk. he is harassing me and I have a right to remove such attacks. Khorshid 12:28, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Iranian peoples
Salam. Yeh negayeh kon beh in harfayi User:Tombseye enja, Talk:Iranian peoples. Mamnoon. Kouroush 14:31, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] eyval interwiki
mibinam ke 3soot magale haro interwiki mizani :)--Meisam.fa 09:31, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Ma ba iki-saniyeh bozorg shodim! --Mani1 09:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Persian"?
Mani, you recently changed "Farsi" to "Persian", stating it is the correct term in English. Is "Farsi" politically incorrect? I hear it much more frequently than "Persian" in writing. You would probably know more about it than I do, but I was just curious about where you got that information.--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 17:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi.
- "Farsi" is the Persian word for Persian. Writing "I speak Farsi" is as wrong as writing "I speak Deutsch".
I attract your attention to the announcement of The Academy of the Persian Language and Literature (Farhangestan) on this matter:
- "Persian" has been used in a variety of publications including cultural, scientific and diplomatic documents for centuries and, therefore, it carries a very significant historical and cultural meaning. Hence, changing "Persian" to "Farsi" would negate this established important precedent.
- Changing the usage from "Persian" to "Farsi" may give the impression that Farsi is a new language, although this may well be the intention of some users of Farsi.
- Changing the usage may also give the impression that Farsi is a dialect used in some parts of Iran rather than the predominant (and official) language of the country.
- The word "Farsi" has never been used in any research paper or university document in any Western language, and the proposal to begin using it would create doubt and ambiguity about the name of the official language of Iran.
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- Comment I agree with you in general that Persian is the correct term for the language, but I disagree that Farsi is not used in English. You may not consider these to be research papers or university documents, but never is a tough word to use correctly. Here are just a few recent examples: Bejnar 20:26, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- Hard numbers.(Currents). Columbia Journalism Review 43.6 (March-April 2005): p15 “75,000: Estimated number of blogs written in Farsi.”
- Women of the Afghan War.(Book Review). Shahrzad Mojab. Canadian Woman Studies 22.2 (Fall 2002): p160, “The English literature on Afghan women is growing, though it still lags behind the coverage of Afghan women's suffering, struggle, and resistance in Farsi (Persian), Dari or other regional languages.”
- The early phonological development of a Farsi-English bilingual child. Mohammad Hossein Keshavarz and David Ingram. International Journal of Bilingualism 6.3 (Sept 2002): p255, “Analyses of data from a longitudinal study of a Farsi-English bilingual infant, Arsham, supported the hypothesis that the child had acquired two separate phonologies with mutual influence; that is, he made occasional use of phonological features of Farsi in English words and vice-versa.”
- Afghan Buzkashi: Power Games and Gamesmen. (Book Reviews). Ali A. Jalali. Parameters 31.4 (Winter 2001): p156, “Reviewed by Ali A. Jalali, former Afghan colonel and author of several books on Afghan military history, including The Other Side of the Mountain, coauthored with Lester Grau. Mr. Jalali is Chief of the Farsi (Persian) Service at the Voice of America, Washington, D.C.”
- Comment I agree with you in general that Persian is the correct term for the language, but I disagree that Farsi is not used in English. You may not consider these to be research papers or university documents, but never is a tough word to use correctly. Here are just a few recent examples: Bejnar 20:26, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
See also:
- Iran Cultural Heritage News Agency: "Persian is correct"
- "Farsi", Recently Appeared Language! - (CAIS)
- Persian or Farsi?
- Ehsan Yarshater on this issue
Take care. --Mani1 18:54, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- OK, Thank you for clarifying.......I thought the term "Persian" went out with the name "Persia." Thanks for clarifying.--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 13:53, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi Mani. Someone wrote: 'The word "Farsi" has never been used in any research paper or university document in any Western language.' I must disagree. Since so many people speak about 'Farsi' when they mean 'Persian', I thought it would be wisest to compromise and have both 'Persian' and 'Farsi' mentioned in the text, just to honour different opinons. Heroica Sophia
[edit] Your message
Anjam shod :) --Zereshk 04:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
آقا دست شما درد نکند. خیلی حال دادی. هر موقع هر کاری بود که ما می توانستیم انجام بدهیم در خدمت هستیم.
قربان شما. --Mani1 08:45, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sheitoona!
Didam chi kar kardin, afarin! --(Aytakin) | Talk 00:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Mani1, you re-creation of the article Misconceptions about Iran without the agreement of the admin in charge of the AfD is "not" a sign of valuing the policies. My personal opinion is that it was much better to discuss the matter with the admin in charge as I did ([1]). With all respect, I've asked the article to be removed till the User:JDoorjam comes back (he is on a short break) so that we may chat with him on this matter. Please feel free to leave a bitter message on my talk page if you would like. Regards, --Aminz 09:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Aminz, you're right. Discussing the matter beforhand is better. Thanks for the message. --Mani1 09:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
- Dear Mani1, Thank you so much for your kindness. --Aminz 10:02, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fārsi
Fārsi is a transliteration of فارسی that is why it was in parentheses after the word Persian. It was not out of ignorance, it was to help those who know Persian by the sound of its Arabic name. Bejnar 20:07, 3 August 2006 (UTC) I have made this clearer in the Iran article. Bejnar 20:36, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- Hi.
We can not just mess with the official names of the languages of the countries to help people who know little to recognise their wrong spellings of the names. --Mani1 07:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC) Fārsi is not a wrong spelling. It is a widely used term for Persian in Persia and elsewhere. Also you said that parallel names for the official language were not used for other Wikipedia country articles. Have you looked at India? What do you have against the use of the word Fārsi in the appropriate context of a transliteration of the official name for the country's language? Bejnar 14:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi. Look for the answers under the title "Persian"? up here in this user talk page. --Mani1 12:57, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] link to Persian
Hello, when you want to link to the article about something Persian, please do not link to Persian, as that is a disambiguation page (which nothing should be linked to). Instead link to the one of the options found on that page such as Persian people, Persian language, or Iran, by writing out [[Persian language|Persian]] or [[Iran|Persian]]. Regards, Jeff3000 06:17, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Email
Please add your email in "my preferences". Khorshid 21:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Ahvaz-karun.jpg
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[edit] Religious minorities in Iran
Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. Khoikhoi 00:23, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Two Articles in need of your attention
There are two entries at Wikipedia, which have falsely created -- they are Turco-Persian and Turko-Persian Tradition. Both entries are factitious. I have requested the entries to be deleted. My reasons are:
- The term Turko-Persian Tradition (or Turco-Persian) does not exists academically and it is a factitious entry! Check the Encyclopaedia Iranica to confirm -- The correct name for that culture is the Persianate culture not the "Turko-Persian". Turkophones (mostly of mixed race and Persianized in culture) only spoke in Turkic dialects and were in the military. That is not enough participation in creating and forming the culture to deserve the name "Turko-Persian Tradition" – This is misinformation. All the elements in that area, which have to do with tradition and culture, were drawn from the Iranian culture (Persian, Kurdish, Azari, Baluchi, Tajik, Luri, Gilaki, Talishi, Mazandarani, etc.), and the Islamic faith, not much Turkic elements (like shamanism, yurts etc.) were incorporated in. That is what makes the name "Turko-Persian" an imaginary one and therefore the entry should be deleted.
Any contributions would greatly appreciated. Bā Sepās Surena 02:26, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hank the Cowdog poplular in Iran?
Greetings. I am curious about the statement you added to the above article and the article on John R. Erickson, as my attempts to find further information have yielded nothing. I have now added a "citation needed" tag; do you have more details on this? Xerophyllum tenax 02:38, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Kiarostami
Hi Mani! I am going to nominate Kiarostami for A-class soon. It is now under peer review. It would be nice if you could take a look at it. Ba sepaas. Sangak 14:53, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] SAFZA
Salam,
Please check out a new article I've started on SAFZA. I would like to expand it somewhat, so that it can be put for a DYK. However, I have difficulty reading persian articles dealing with the subject. Any help would be appreciated. --Soman 14:18, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to PageName, you will be blocked from editing. The next time you vandalize the 300 (film) page, your IP address will be blocked.Arcayne 14:30, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I am not vandalizing anything. I just rearrange the subtitles of one article and add some more information. If you are not agreed with my information you cannot just label me a "vandal". Take back your warning.--Mani1 14:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I agree here, Arcayne should read Wikipedia:Vandalism again. The edits by Mani doesn't qualify under any of the criteria given there. --Soman 14:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- I also did nothing to the PageName as Arcayne claims. He must have mistaken me with some other user.--Mani1 14:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm, then I guess you are denying this edit, this edit, and this edit. these are all examples of POV-push, and, as they reverted solid edits and directly undermined the neutrality of the article, you sacrificed the Asssumption of Good Faith. All three edits were vandalism.Arcayne 15:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Vandalism quite clearly states that POV-pushing is not the same as Vandalism. Whether one thinks '300' is hate-propaganda or not is a matter of difference of opinion, not vandalism. BTW, only admins are allowed to use the {protect} tag. --Soman 15:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm, then I guess you are denying this edit, this edit, and this edit. these are all examples of POV-push, and, as they reverted solid edits and directly undermined the neutrality of the article, you sacrificed the Asssumption of Good Faith. All three edits were vandalism.Arcayne 15:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I would like to no what the punishment is for misusing and abusing the tags as Arcayne has done here.--Mani1 15:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Vandalism
Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to Zack Snyder, you will be blocked from editing. Also, I assume Arcayne was attempting to point out your vandalism to 300 (film).
You should have receieved a first warning. You received a previous warning from Arcayne on the 10th. Consider this one your second third. You have been duly warned several times for disrupting the same article multiple times. María: (habla ~ cosas) 14:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Please read the messages in the previous undertitle here.--Mani1 15:01, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Changing the Zack Snyder page to refer to him as a "hate-producer" and a "hateful Westerner" who has "insulted Persian civilization, one of the greatest civilizations on earth" is absolutely vandalism. You did similar edits to the 300 article. There is no subjectivity; your edits are obviously disruptive, and the vandalism warnings are justified. Please be sure to keep your agenda to yourself. María: (habla ~ cosas) 15:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
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- This is your opinion and what I added to the article is my opinion. Actually what I wrote is the opinion of millions of people about him. I agree that information about his hateful and racist acts should be added to that article in a more encyclopaedic fashion. When the threat of your labelings is passed I'll add an encyclopaedic documented piece to that article.--Mani1 15:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
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- No, it isn't merely my opinion that what you added was vandalism. As for "encyclopaedic documents," I doubt you will be able to find a reliable source to state that Snyder is a "hateful Westerner." I am not threatening you; I am warning you. If you continue to vandalize, you will be reported, and probably not by just me. I suggest you step off. María: (habla ~ cosas) 15:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
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- The reliable source is the hate movie he has made. I told you what I'm going to do and it is not against the law to write documented pieces in Wikipedia. So, the rest of your explanations is unnecessary.--Mani1 16:03, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- What do you know about Zack Snyder and biased opinions!--Mani1 16:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Re:your note
Khahesh mikonam! kamtar kasi be andazeie shoma dar wikipedia baraie iran zahmat keshideh. rastee Abbas Kiarostami ham FA shod. heif ke hanooz kheili kam FA ie irani dareem. Take care! Sangak Talk 16:31, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Fe'lan bishtare vaghtam dar Wikipediaye Farsi migzareh. Mamnun az zahmathaye shoma dar inja va sepaas az payametun.
Shaadkaam baashid.--Mani1 16:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Zheng He Edit
I reverted your edit to Zheng He because all the sources cited indicate he was from Yunnan Province. If you have a source that indicates otherwise, please cite it in your modification and put the page up for dispute.
Thanks --KNHaw (talk) 00:41, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia:Peer review/Shahbag
I have just put the article to peer review. Would you care to take a look? Aditya Kabir 20:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)