Talk:Marvel vs. Capcom 2: New Age of Heroes

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• The current version of the page is the most correct, containing the Japanese names as listed on the game's original release. Leave the page alone. Danny Lilithborne 12:20, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
  • The descriptions of the character are too "unoffical". Something need to be done about it.T-1000 01:31, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
    • Uh, these descriptions came with the original packaging. How much more official do you want? Danny Lilithborne 02:30, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
      • I hadn't even realised they assigned titles to the characters like that in the Japanese version until I read this article. That doesn't make it any less official in my eyes, since I know the stateside console release wasn't the end all be all for the game itself. It does seem slightly inconsequential whether the titles are listed there or not though. It serves as a decent tribute to trivial knowledge but a simple list, sans titles would also suffice just the same. TheMonkofDestiny 19:31, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
        • I suppose. I think it's useful information to have here, but I can't fight majority rules. Danny Lilithborne 19:49, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Clash of Superheroes? 2 Current article 3 Unlockable characters 4 External Links 5 Competitive Play 6 Original research

[edit] Clash of Superheroes?

I noticed this and am wondering, is it the aforementioned or "New Age of Heroes" (as is mentioned constantly by the announcer during the opening title sequence for the game)? TheMonkofDestiny 12:45, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

• A persistent editor kept changing it to "Clash of Super Heroes", which is the subtitle of the first MvC game. I somehow missed it. It's fixed now. Danny Lilithborne 19:59, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Current article

• User:Classicgamer's additions are useful, but should be rewritten to take a more neutral tone. This game is not unpopular among casual gamers; the problem comes when casual players attempt to fight people experienced at the game. The learning curve is very high and demanding for competitive game, which led to its decline. It's still played quite a bit in the United States. Danny Lilithborne 06:04, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

• So, you slap a big ugly red stop sign at the top of the page? Interesting way you go about things... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Classicgamer (talk • contribs).
  • It's a marker that says the neutrality of the article is disputed. It's a standard and valid template often used in Wikipedia. Danny Lilithborne 06:21, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Another comment; I'd fix it myself except I'm completely exhausted tonight. If an editor hasn't patched it up tomorrow, I'll do it myself. Danny Lilithborne 06:24, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I'll fix it myself. This isn't anything paticularly vexing that an immediate and slight clean-up won't fix. -Zero^Talk 08:20, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unlockable characters

• An anonymous user recently marked certain characters as "unlockable", a change I reverted mainly because different characters are available from the outset in the console version than in the arcade version, and it would probably be very cumbersome to distinguish them from each other. Am I right in my thinking? Danny Lilithborne 06:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

These links refer exclusivly to competitive gaming so they were removed:

• ArcadeScrubs.com (Singapore's Marvel vs Capcom 2 community)
• FightersGeneration.com
• Shoryuken.com (the online center of competitive Street Fighter)
• Evolution Fighting Game Championships (largest annual fighting game tournament in the Western Hemisphere)

and X-Men video games on Marvel.com only refers to x-men games and was removed.--Balloonguy 19:00, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

• To have a section about competitive play, but no external links, doesn't fly. JuJube 10:07, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Competitive Play

Marvel vs. Capcom 2 was the game at the center of the competitive fighting game renaissance in the United States, associated with websites such as Shoryuken.com. Previously, competitive fighting game tournaments were generally informal and regional affairs, with players of relatively greater skill only found in metropolitan centers such as Los Angeles and New York. The prevalance of the Internet, especially broadband connections which facilitated the distribution of game videos, allowed for a far greater and faster sharing of "best practices" causing the game to evolve exponentially faster than before. A new technique would be discovered and disseminated, then a counter technique might then be discovered and disseminated. This process was greatly encouraged by the fact that for the first time, the home version of the game was identical to the arcade version of the game. Part of the interest in hardcore competitive fighting game tournaments may have been due to the nature of the game as well. Early tournament videos revealed that the techniques that the major metropolitan players were using were far more advanced and "game breaking" than ever thought of by regional players. At a time when players were focusing on performing long aerial chain combos with small characters, early masters such as Duc Do would be creating a barrage of projectile attacks by constantly calling in assist characters, many times never allowing the opponent to get a hit in. Whereas before these radical strategies which arguably were based on design flaws would be banned in regional tournaments by house rules or an honor system, during this period fighting game forums on the internet quickly spread the ideology that "anything goes" because the competitive aspect of the game was its primary purpose. With more players being dedicated to winning fighting game tournaments, more techniques were discovered in this game and others since.

This section was removed for being unsourced. While it is true that this section was unsourced, a lot of it sounds like it was true. Some of the stuff that is exclusivly about competitive gaming needs to be removed, but the rest should be kept. I've scoured the internet looking for references but found known, so I moved the text here.--Balloonguy 20:10, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Original research

• Because Capcom is no longer licensed to produce this title (or any joint-Marvel productions), the game is no longer in print. This licensing abnormality, coupled with the resounding and unexpected commercial success of the title, has created an unusually exuberant demand for the game. This phenomenon has in turn culminated in an unprecedentedly resilient and considerable market value, as best evidenced by pricings at Ebay and Amazon. Depending on the home platform, a used copy can go anywhere from $50.00 to over $160.00.
• Digging through home versions of the game with hacking tools turns up a few bits hinting that some code is shared between it and Capcom vs. SNK 2.

These both seem to be original research so I moved them here. --Balloonguy 20:20, 20 February 2007 (UTC)