Talk:Princess Elise

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Contents 1 Pointless jibber jabber 2 This isn't UK 3 Elise 17? 4 Elise and Sonic 5 Sonic CulT script 6 The Third? 7 Let it Ride 8 Criticism 9 Whoops! 10 Floating

[edit] Pointless jibber jabber

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Roxyr 07:31, 22 November 2006 (UTC)The same goes for this article. Editors are too fast! I bet when this game is finally released, XBo 360 owners will also successfully vandal all SOnic NeXt Gen related article (rolls eyes).

No info of this character are not even reveal, editors creating a page for her.

>x<ino 13:49, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Um, I don't see your point. We know that she'll be important to the plot, that she is princess of Soleanna and that Eggman will kidnap her for the secret of the Flames of Disaster prompting Sonic to rescue her. If we just had a picture and/or name I'd agree but we have a good basis for an initial entry, hence why I started the page. Yeesh. --HellCat86 20:04, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm with Hellcat. This is an important character, and it's ok to create a page for her with the information that we do know so far. i wonder what her breasts look like... Lengis 21:58, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This isn't UK

Regarding said recent comment alongside an edit- I was born in the UK and have lived here my whole life. As such, it's completly natural that I spell things the way that is accepted over here. You don't need to drop rude comments just because I don't spell it the same way as your country. Unless I missed something, the site is English Language Wikipedia not America Wikipedia. If it bothers you so much just change it. There's no need to act like we all have to default to the American way of doing things.--HellCat86 00:50, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me that you were a bit offended. --Alexie 18:47, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Elise 17?

Um...has it been revealed anywhere that she is 17? If not, why does it say that? UnDeRsCoRe 22:55, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Given someone recently added the idea she was Sonic's girlfriend, could quite likely be false rumour someone added.--HellCat86 23:14, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, then, I'll remove it until further information is revealed. UnDeRsCoRe 23:36, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Numerous sources say she's 17.GrandMasterGalvatron 17:00, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Care to show us one? UnDeRsCoRe 21:10, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

• Nevermind, just saw the american site. UnDeRsCoRe 21:49, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Elise and Sonic

Until we have something more concrete I think this needs to be looked out for. UnDeRsCoRe has done a pretty good job but others are starting to get opinionated, either for or against. This is supposed to be an article of facts on the character, not a user soapbox--HellCat86 23:49, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, the reason people are starting to get against it is because of the, aledged, "bestiality", between them. But, to be honest, nothing has actually been revealed about their interaction. Sega has not really confirmed wheather or not they will be friends, or closer. Until Sega, or another official source, states something, we should just leave it the way it is. UnDeRsCoRe 23:59, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

That's my point- there are places to discuss opinions on the issue but this isn't one of them. If an interview says they'll be close, just present the facts in the article. Don't insert your own opinion along with. I just removed a list of reasons someone presented to present their opinion it was just friends. That's confusing the facts by adding in their own interpretation as if it has more clout behind it then it does--HellCat86 00:10, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

That is what I mean. People are expanding this by their own view, and "speculating". They're making it more than it actually its. UnDeRsCoRe 00:24, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I believe people are thinking such things because of the latest trailer and the image in the japanese website of Elise and Sonic, together in a field of flowers, but that doesn't reveal anything besides that they probably are just friends or rescuer and rescued...Czin 05:03, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

This is turning into an edit war! Perhaps we should present both opinions in the article? Tikallover 02:58, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Wait...so people are actually SERIOUSLY thinking that their relationship will be a romantic one? I am shocked.71.212.191.119 04:57, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

GAH! Amy is supposed to be Sonic's official love interest! It may be one-sided, but it counts, and Sonic's not likely to get another girlfriend in the SegaSonic continuity! As for Sally, she came first, and as for Mina, well, Ken Penders just decided to be a jerk and to create a Mary-Sue to undermine both Sally and Amy. --Luigifan 12:13, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Why are Archie characters being brought into this? Anyway, if the script pages from Sonic Cult are true then I think it's likely Elise will have at a least a semi-romantic attraction (the script in question has Amy meeting Elise and talking about love, with neither girl aware they're discussing the same guy). However, at this point we can't just go with speculation. The article is best going with the "the terms of this relationship are unknown" statment.--HellCat86 15:30, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

What does Hedgehog+Human=? but come on, that is sick. Roxyr 17:13, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, human/animal relationships are wrongsick. Do we really need to be talkin about a possible cross-species realtionship? EWWWWWW! This topic makes me shudder. BlackEDGE MkII 02:10, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

And, things like Echidna+Bat aren't sick? Just for questioning... --Luigifan 12:16, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Things like "Echinbats" are sick. Roxyr 21:40, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I thought so. Of course, the alternative is Hedgehog+Bat, which may be even more disgusting... >_< --Luigifan 13:45, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

One thing that always freaked me out about Rouge,is only her head,tail and wings looks like an animal,the rest of her body looks just like a tiny human. Delsait

Cross-animal relationships are wrong, but not to the extent of human-animal relationships. BlackEDGE MkII 22:28, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh God! Major sickness! She kisses him! Long and Hard! And Amy's there! And she doesn't care! Man! She doesn't care!!!!!!!!! DEAR GOD!!!!! Roxyr 11:47, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I haven't played the game, but I'm pretty sure that she's only overlooking that kiss because it's bringing Sonic back to life... Any other circumstances, and Elise very well might end up with a concussion from the Piko Piko Hammer. --Luigifan 13:42, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

^^Lol. Yeah really. Looks like Elise really does have a thing for Sonic, but, I'm not surprised Amy doesn't do anything considering, like LF said, it is bringing Sonic back to life. This wasn't there in the script so I wouldn't know, but, it's interesting nonetheless. :) Knuckles sonic8 14:28, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Again, this topic makes me shudder. BlackEDGE MkII 01:08, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Again, this topic makes me projectile vomit.

Now that you people are done.... I mentioned that the "attraction" is explained by the kiss Elise gives Sonic...and I mentioned how revolting it is. DON'T DELETE THIS STATEMENT! PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW HOW UNNATURAL A HUMAN+ANIMAL RELATIONSHIP IS. (since this is not a forum, i will not comment any more about this. If you'd like to see my opinion on the subject, meet me at hyrule castle:http://s15.invisionfree.com/Hyrule_Castle/index.php?act=idx)

It's not written in a neutral point of view. Tikallover 18:06, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

This Trivia note is fast becoming a ticking timebomb--HellCat86 19:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I think I can hear a ticking noise. DeathGodDragon EDGE 06:28, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

To borrow an element from GameFAQs, bump. --Luigifan 11:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sonic CulT script

Where is this script anyway?

Here: http://www.sonic-cult.org/newsx/fullnews.php?id=119 Tikallover 19:30, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Just keep in mind, it's in Japanese. --Luigifan 01:45, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

There's some English in there. Tikallover 03:41, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it contains both Japanese and English. --Guess Who 06:55, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Third?

Who stuck "The Third" in the article's name? --Luigifan 12:23, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

It's the truth. I've seen on Youtube a video in which Shadow looks at a potrait of Elise. Rouge then says that that (the portrait) is a potrait of Soleanna's current monarch, Princess Elise the Third. If I find the video, I'll send a link. Aguni Dragon-OX 21:35, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I know what you're talking about. Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TUKZqhU78c Roxyr 17:11, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Roxyr. Oh and if you go to Talk:Sonic and the Secret Rings, sorry if I went off the handle at you over similarities. DeathGodDragon EDGE 01:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

No prob. But I said it was a joke, in a bit of a sarcastic way... no offence. we'll just say they cancel each other out. Roxyr 18:08, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Wha? Somebody just changed the page's title again! This time, it's a Roman numeral! Nobody would go renaming Princess Sally Acorn's page "Princess Sally Elicia of the House of Acorn", which is the character's full name, but it would really make linking to and/or searching for the article a real pain in the neck! This article should be no different; face it, it's a lot simpler to link to "Princess Elise" than it is to link to "Princess Elise III of Soleanna", and a lot simpler to search for, as well! Embellishing an article's name really doesn't do anything other than annoy people. --Luigifan 18:44, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

True Oh Lord. People are taking it too far. Then again, It might've been done by a newbie... Roxyr 22:07, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Anyways, I'm gonna change it back to Princess Elise. Any objections...? Roxyr 19:45, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I'd go back to Princess Elise. I could kinda understand this when The Third was added but now it's getting silly. Is Relena Peacecraft's page titled Princess Relena Peacecraft of the Sanc Kingdom? Likewise, is Peach's Princess Peach of the Mushroom Kingdom? Just stick with Princess Elise and have an intro like "Princess Elise (full title Princess Elise III of Soleanna)..."--HellCat86 00:45, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah, Gundam Wing. Good times...good times. Seriously, we should change it back to "Princess Elise the Third" or even, "Princess Elise." ChromeWulf ZX 20:42, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Let it Ride

What's that mean, you ask? It's the title of a Bachman-Turner Overdrive song, and I think it fits Princess Elise, largely because of the "don't cry" and "would you cry" parts. The song is overall very good, and I've often found myself singing "Don't wanna release that Iblis" during gaps in the lyrics. Anybody else who's heard the song (it's Track #13 on the More Cowbell album) is welcome to chime in!!!

Goodbye
My life
Don't cry
Would you let it ride...

Well, tell me what you think! Does the song fit Princess Elise, or should I look elsewhere? If anybody has any suggestions, please let me know!!! --Luigifan 03:32, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello? Anyone there? *sigh* I probably ought to contact UnDeRsCoRe and Ryan Bloom... Maybe then this will start to get some attention. (Keep in mind, this isn't meant to be an official theme song. I actually intended for it to be used in fangames, should Elise ever appear in one.) --Luigifan 18:55, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism

If this section is gonna be here, should we mention the 'bestiality'? It's not as if it was well recieved. Roxyr 21:50, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Probably, but we should wait until we hear what others have to say about this. ChromeWulf ZX 19:29, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

I just flat out removed it. It's full of spelling errors and nitpicky complaints from shippers. I certainly don't care for getting a PM accusing me of being a vandal after doing so....I started this entry in the first place.--HellCat86 21:56, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Whatever. Do what you want. ChromeWulf ZX 20:09, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Whoops!

Looks like somebody doesn't know the procedure for moving a page. --Guess Who 10:00, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

No! My precious arguments! Roxyr 12:35, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Damn. This is all my fault! (Readies himself for flamers) ChromeWulf ZX 18:20, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

No wait, no it isn't! When I redirected the page, the talk page was still there! Who did it? ChromeWulf ZX 18:22, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

No wait, it was me. But, I got it back! ChromeWulf ZX 18:25, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Please don't do cut-and-paste moves. If you are *sure* this is the correct name for the article, then please put a {{db-histmerge}} on this article and let an admin straighten out the article and talk history. Gimmetrow 18:47, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I merged both the article and talk page histories here from both Princess Elise The Third and Princess Elise III of Soleanna. Shouldn't do cut-and-paste moves—it breaks up the history. Thanks for flagging the problem. Cool Hand Luke 00:31, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. I'm still new with all the functions of editing pages. But, in keep that in mind. ChromeWulf ZX 04:15, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

who keeps putting disgusting sexual junk in elises article?

[edit] Floating

I think I have an idea on how Maskippa can float. Perhaps it flaps its leaves like wings. Y'know, like Petey Piranha.--67.87.66.127 11:33, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

See Tropius.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.17.45.152 (talk) 15:11, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

It's ability is levitate, that should be self-explanatory. -24.92.41.95 18:17, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I think the Petey Pirahna theory makes far more sense, since we don't seem to have any other explanation to how it keeps above the ground. Others are light, or use psychic powers or something. Masukippa just, well, stays afloat. SHUCKLE MAN—The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 17:59, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Slight problem with my theory. I've seen a couple of videos of Pokémon Battle Revolution on Youtube that have Muskippa in them and Muskippa doesn't flap its leaves very much, it just floats there...67.87.66.127 12:55, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Uh... Hey, IP 65.54.154.41. Why did you just paste in some random information from Talk:Carnivine? Gurko 13:34, 1 March 2007 (UTC)