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Archive 1 of discussions Oct 2004- Sept 2006

Archive 2 of discussions Sept 2006- 1st Jan 2007

Contents 1 Your image 2 Nursing Project 3 Rutland 4 Nursing Project 5 Link to response from CBDunkerson (eom) 6 Hello 7 Midsomer Norton South station 8 Welcome to VandalProof! 9 An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Aveline's Hole, was selected for DYK! 10 cave infobox 11 Info boxes 12 Mendip SSSI list 13 Geobox location map 14 An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Charlcombe, was selected for DYK! 15 B&NSR 16 William Clarke 17 Whitton Bridge Pasture 18 Bristol Infoboxes 19 Megalith 20 Combe Hay Weir 21 Sorry Rod 22 Geobox locator 23 Portal:United Kingdom/Did you know 24 Schools in Bristol 25 Re: St Paul's church 26 DYK 27 Mendips 28 No Problem 29 Re: Map for Mendip Hills 30 Mendips 31 Bristol to do list 32 Did you know 33 Mendips 34 Grade I buildings in Bristol 35 Whitefield's Tabernacle 36 "Did You Know" has been updated 37 Bristol WP 38 Re: Bristol pics 39 DYK 40 Taking Bristol to peer review 41 Mendips gliding 42 Royal Fort

[edit] Your image

I speedy deleted the image you've been asking about on Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. If you get permission, feel free to upload again. However, fair use cannot apply to artistic depictions, unless the artistic depiction in itself is important and is discussed in the article. Best of luck, Mangojuice^talk 17:32, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nursing Project

Rod

Thanks for your invitation, but I have been contributing to Nursing articles for some years already, and have written much of what is included in Nursing in Australia, even though it has been moved and re-edited a number of times. I've scaled back on my Wikipedia contributions lately, but will add information wherever I can in the future.

Regards

AdammAdamm 21:19, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rutland

Hi, I see that you added the etymology section of the Rutland article. What does "RatCE" mean? User:Zoe|(talk) 22:23, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Great, thanks, it has me confused.  :) User:Zoe|(talk) 23:29, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nursing Project

Thank you. I would be delighted to assist in the wiki nursing project. I will give the articles and other needs a good look and will proceed to make an effort to move it forward.

Canticle 04:15, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Link to response from CBDunkerson (eom)

[edit] Hello

Regarding the article Ash (near Taunton) - you have edited, have you got any green idea about the origin of the name Ash?

Eliko 00:15, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Midsomer Norton South station

I think this is the goods shed at Midsomer Norton S&D station. The Somerset Railway Stations book (2002) says that the Somerset & Dorset Railway Heritage Trust had taken over the station buildings and the goods shed in preparation for possible restoration of a short stretch of line to Chilcompton. I can certainly remember the station well: it won numerous awards for its gardens and was one of Ivo Peters' favourites for his pictures. Johnlp 22:26, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Done. I suspect someone at some stage should separate the Midsomer Norton and Radstock articles: they sit rather uncomfortably together at Norton Radstock which is, as far as I'm aware, a local government name not a place name. I'll have a go at some point on a Bristol & North Somerset Railway article too: it's a bit of an omission. Johnlp 22:47, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Rodw! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. Betacommand ^{(talk • contribs • Bot)} 18:55, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Aveline's Hole, was selected for DYK!

On February 4, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Aveline's Hole, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 14:57, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] cave infobox

Hi Rod. You're the first person to comment on the goatchurch name. I've owned the goatchurch.org.uk domain for about ten years. The info about caving in the wikipedia is so extraordinarily behind everything else I just can't believe it. (The lack of a cave infobox was the final proof I needed.) A lot of caving is still going on, internationally, in the US, Austrialia, and often being put online, but it's as if no one has discovered wp yet. There must be something cultural about it. You'll get no end of fake maps of Narnia posted up, but so far I've not seen a single cave map posted to wp at all! I intend to do something about that, once I find a small enough example to use.

Basically, the subject is so far behind, I want to seed it with some varied contributions, and start getting others to get involved. There's no good formalizaton of the difficulty of grading systems, which are totally ad-hoc and go from I to V in for Yorkshire caves. I believe it's basically set according to exemplars rather than any usefully listed criteria.

My current tactic to get some wp interest (and how I was forced to make an infobox) is to make a system for overlaying cave surveys over googlemaps, and establishing a data-entry system throught wikipedia: the server would scraping all the cave infoboxes and links to surveys in articles in order to generate the overlays of the passages on the map, and that would force people to put something in if they wanted a nice picture. This will first be done with Steinbrückenhöhle, which I have spent a lot of time exploring.

Have you any thoughts on your Thrupe Lane Swallet page and how the SSSI box and cave infobox could work in harmony? Is it done by separating it into two articles? Or putting them in zoned sections (above ground, entrance, below ground)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Goatchurch (talk • contribs) 15:53, 4 February 2007 (UTC).

Stuff seems to be happening in this field. You may want to think about upgrading your SSSI thing to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Geobox_Protected_Area thing. It would take a bit to get expert at that, but it looks very comprehensive, and we ought to be pulling the polygons from the nature conservancy webpage into wp (or telling them to do it). There's more likely to be the worldwide interface that pulls these areas into, say, googleearth, than from that nature conservancy webpage. They make their polygons available at http://www.english-nature.org.uk/pubs/gis/GIS_register.asp

Lamb Leer looks to me it would be two pages: one for the area, and one for the cave. Or they could be combined with a subsection partway down the page. Goatchurch 17:59, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I've left a comment at Template talk:Infobox SSSI Map about SSSI templates. - Suicidalhamster 21:21, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

re: River Chew -- you're pulling way ahead of me. I like it. I've got a lot of other work to do for the next few weeks. I guess you go to the tributory pages to get the GPS coordinates of those confluences (as the mouth). The map bit at the bottom -- don't you think it could relate to the idea: Category_talk:Geobox#Located_Map By locating the corresponding pixel position of the river source on your map to your listed GPS coordinates, and stating the map's scale, you make it possible to overlay it in any googleearth type framework. These are the missing fragments of information required to nail any map down in position. This might also solve any issues with defining the area of an SSSI if you have a map fragment containing its boundaries. Goatchurch 11:46, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Info boxes

Thanks for tidying up the references at Brympton d'Evercy. However, I have removed tht info box as I really detest them. They are not policy, and the decision whether or not to use them is usually left to the discretion of the principal editors of the page, who in this case do not want one there. Please don't be offended, I just do not like them and don't feel they are necessary on a page like that. I have left a message accordingly on Talk:Brympton d'Evercy. Regards. Giano 14:25, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mendip SSSI list

Rod - I went for one of my usual walks with the dogs up to Black Rock and Long Wood yesterday. It is a wonderful place that includes a prominent cave - Long Wood Swallet. I didn't see any of these in the list of SSSIs or caves. I'm pretty sure that Black Rock is part of the Cheddar Complex but I was also sure that Long Wood is an SSSI in its own right. Comments? --Cheesy Mike 10:06, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I just created an article on Longwood Swallet. I added it to the Mendip Hills template and Mendip caves article. Would appreciate you giving it the once-over. --Cheesy Mike 09:31, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Geobox location map

I've replied at the Category talk:Geobox anticipating the problem with the slightly displaced locator dot. – Caroig 21:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Charlcombe, was selected for DYK!

On February 14, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Charlcombe, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 20:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] B&NSR

Hi. I've created an article on the Bristol and North Somerset Railway, but it could do with someone else's eye running over it! Johnlp 22:36, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] William Clarke

I don't think he can be William Tierney Clark because the B&NSR stations were all built/opened in 1873, which is too late. The only reference I can find to him by googling is [1] and you have to go a long way down the page to issue No 8 of the magazine before you come across a rather obscure article about him. The Oakley book on Somerset stations (he's done volumes on other counties as well, but they're probably only available locally, and I don't live anywhere near) has a couple of pages of bibliography that suggest there are quite a few books on railway station architecture, so he is probably researchable. But I suspect he was architect rather than engineer. The station at Hallatrow still exists (I think) though whether the distinctive chimneys are still there I don't know. Brislington was still there in the early 1970s, but I haven't been there since. Johnlp 22:30, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Whitton Bridge Pasture

Would it be possible for you to look over Whitton Bridge Pasture article I've been working on. Thinking of nominating it for Good Article so any advice would be much appreciated. Many thanks. - Suicidalhamster 23:14, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for looking at the article your suggestions seem spot on, unfortunately I don't live any where the site so a photo may be difficult! I'll have a look at the two templates and see how they compare. - Suicidalhamster 19:12, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bristol Infoboxes

Rodw, I notice you are doing info boxes for areas in Bristol. That's good, however I wonder if places - especially ones that are Council wards, like Cabot - would be better served with boxes like that in Redland? I find those boxes much better at showing where in the city the area actually is. Fig 11:54, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I think they are built from the templates at Wikipedia:WikiProject Bristol. Joe D (t) seems to do a lot of it... Fig 13:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Megalith

Hiya! I've noticed the "Infobox Megalith" vs "Megalith" thing... will nosey at it!

Re Stanton Drew stone circles, you could link Stone circle as the 'type'. It's not formal, more a general description that the editor should apply as seen fit - whatever suits!

Cheers, --PopUpPirate 15:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Combe Hay Weir

Hi Rod

    It would have been nice if you knocked on the door and asked before entering our garden to take the poor picture of Combe Hay Weir.

You need to see it running.

This is what it really looks like http://www.combehay.net/page6.html or November 9th 2005 on the Blog here http://combehay.blogspot.com/2005_11_01_combehay_archive.html. or http://photos1.blogger.com/img/235/2775/1024/water2.jpg or http://photos1.blogger.com/img/235/2775/1024/Waterfall1.jpg

Sam Farr Hen and Chicken Court Combe Hay

81.156.171.17 20:50, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I have contacted Sam - via another means as he was not logged in to wikipedia - to explain that I was invited into the garden & would never enter someones private property without their permission. — Rod ^talk 08:53, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry Rod

Hi Sam,

You left a note on my wikipedia page but because you were not logged in as a wikipedia user I couldn't contact you back that way.

You said "It would have been nice if you knocked on the door and asked before entering our garden to take the poor picture of Combe Hay Weir" I was invited through the gate by a lady who was working in the garden (possibly your wife/daughter) when I walked down the path to the bridge trying to take a photo, last October. I would never enter someone's private property without their permission, & I didn't realize it was your house.

I would be extremely grateful if you would post on my user page again withdrawing that assertion as it makes me look as if I would invade someone's privacy & that is not me.

Your photos are so much better than mine would you be willing to put them onto wikipedia & replace mine - I know when we discussed the Stone mines pictures you were constrained by the copyright issues.

Rod

Sam' Reply

Hi Rod

    I have checked with my married daughter who no longer lives here, just looking in to sort her pony.

She does remember asking you in. I'm sorry to have cast doubt on your integrity.

As before my employment contract stops the use of my pictures on Wikipedia due to the open copyright clause.

One of my the pictures was made from the lane with four frames taken with a little Fuji digital held above my head and joined with Autostitch available free on the web http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~mbrown/autostitch/autostitch.html.

Sorry Again

Sam

81.156.171.48 18:31, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Geobox locator

I've sorted that out, the old system with relative map_locator_x, map_locator_y should be working again. I added the ability to place a locator dot automatically based on location coordinates and introduced a bug in the old system, which is still there in case someone uses an uncallibrated map or map with insets or whatever ...

Wow, before I finished this reply you had discovered that yourself. Sorry for that bug. Should I also add callibration for the other UK map (the green one)? – Caroig 15:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Oops, sorry a just clicked on your name and put the info there. – Caroig 16:31, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:United Kingdom/Did you know

I see you added some articles to Portal:United Kingdom/Did you know/October 2006 and Portal:United Kingdom/Did you know/November 2006 - I am sorry, but I have removed then: these pages include the entries appeared on the Portal last year, so there is not much point adding new ones (and it would be a bit misleading in the archive). If you think they are worth mentioning, you could add them to one of the DYKs that will appear in April, May or a later month. -- ALoan (Talk) 10:33, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, perhaps I was not clear enough: the Portal DYK subpage is not an archive of UK-related topics that appeared on the Main Page - it contains the DYK entries that appear on the Portal. In the past, we have picked DYK entries to appear on the portal without reference to when they appeared on the Main Page. The old ones Portal subpages are there as an archive, to show what appeared on the Portal. -- ALoan (Talk) 11:33, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Schools in Bristol

Thanks for the praise! I was planning on adding the primary schools to List of schools in Bristol, but I'm in the middle of doing an Open University course at the mo, so it will be a while before I get a chance to do it. Well done for all your work adding the infoboxes by the way. Gasheadsteve 17:18, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: St Paul's church

I expect it's too late now, but sure. It's a pretty awful picture though, I must get down there with the D50 and get something better. I don't think I'll be venturing out in this rain though! Joe D (t) 15:55, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 6 March 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hestercombe House, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--ALoan (Talk) 23:16, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mendips

Hi. I've added a comment at the FA nom page. Also, I apologise - I did not get round to doing anything in response to your previous message about the NVC. If this is still relevant and you'd like me to take a look at that aspect of the article, let me know, and I'll see what I can do to help. SP-KP 11:41, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Replies:

What's in the lead that's not in the main text - just two small things ... "which gives the area the same level of protection as a national park". "popular with ... those interested in natural history."

I think you've just linked to NVC articles once, is that correct? (mesotrophic grassland). Ideally, I think there should be a broader mesotrophic grasslands article, like the calcareous grassland one, that isn't just about the NVC definitions (lots of other countries have mesotrophic grasslands, I'm sure). But in the absence of one, I agree the NVC article is an appropriate thing to link to. If I've missed any other links, let me know. Cheers SP-KP 11:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I like thenew bit about AONBs/NPs - are you able to reference the bit at the end about equal status? The bit about popularity with natural history types - could you mention this in the leisure section, perhaps? On the map front, what about the editor who produced the Chew Valley map? SP-KP 12:27, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No Problem

Mendip Hills FAC Thanks for your edits of Mendip Hills. I have now put it up as a Featured Article Candidate & comments, support or opposition is being recorded at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mendip Hills.— Rod talk 10:42, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Not really sure what I did to receive this, but thanks anyway. I only linked it to Mining in Roman Britain. Oh well. I hope to be reading something about Mendip Hills on the main page of wikipedia soon! Bmrbarre 18:55, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Map for Mendip Hills

Hi Rod - I will take a look next weekend - how long is your FAC open for? I can throw together a basic topo map of the area in a night or two if you are needing something quicker to stop the FAC being opposed. SFC9394 22:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

It's a beautifully written and presented article. I see no issues with it at all! I'll wait a few days to see what objections come up on the WP:FA nomination page, and then I'll pass comment or help ammend. Great stuff and thanks for the contact! Jhamez84 22:44, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I have thrown together a quick layout, it is nothing fancy: Image:Mendip Hills Map.png. SFC9394 21:35, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Feel free to add it, I wasn't 100% where the most appropriate place in the article would be to place it. SFC9394 22:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mendips

Hi - Great work on the Mendip Hills page. Just one thing - I think you ought to put miles first with km in brackets through the article. The other measurements are probably OK with the metric ones first. I appreciate this creates a logical inconsistency, but this reflects the mixed up situation in the UK regarding metric v imperial. But clearly miles are used much more than km in the Mendips, as in the UK generally, so ought to have pride of place.--Triglyph2 18:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I saw that comment, but the editor who made it is from India, and is probably unaware that the UK has massive inconsistency in its use of units.--Triglyph2 19:13, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think there is a specific convention for the UK, but that bit of the guide you quotes points towards the answer. Clearly if we were talking about the geography of Mars the choice of units would be arbitrary, but in the UK, it isn't - and I don't think it would be contested that miles are far more commonly used than km here, just as centigrade is far more commonly used than fahrenheit. The US is in the same position as us as regards miles.--Triglyph2 19:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bristol to do list

I agree that we should be using the general assessment criteria for Bristol articles, and seeing as all the articles in the list are now classified using the {{Bristol}} template, the list on the project page may as well be deleted. The whole project page could do with a bit of a revamp at some point, it's looking a bit untidy as it stands. Gasheadsteve 20:11, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Did you know

On 13 March 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Red Lodge, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 06:10, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mendips

Hello again. It's a really greate article; the text has no real issues with it (it is neutral and gramatically solid). A problem I have in my browser is white space.

All the images are on the right side, which means they sometime clash and push the text away from itself. Have you considered moving some images to the left to stop this? Jhamez84 12:39, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

DNA, Frog and Chew Valley are just three examples of featured articles I've just clicked on with left hand images. I think the other user may be mistaken! Jhamez84 12:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Please see my comments on Talk:Mendip Hills. --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 10:43, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Grade I buildings in Bristol

Thanks for the shout, Rod. I'm generally putting my time into other things these days, but will keep an eye on WikiProject Bristol. Feel free to update my list, of course. --rbrwr^± 23:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Whitefield's Tabernacle

Yes, I would like to see copyright-free (or GFDL or whatever) photos of both buildings, as I believe they are to be redeveloped and it would be good to get photos of them in their current dilapidated state (asuming redevlopment hasn't already started). Whitefield's Tabernacle was the name used for both buildings at different times, and indeed, I imagine, for the congregation that now meets jointly with the Moravians in the Moravian church building.

The picture you linked to is the 18th century school/tabernacle, as, I believe, are both pictures here [2]. There is also an enormous 19th century Gothic building somewhere on the other side of the Whitefield graveyard, whose primary entrance was from a gated lane off the main road (always locked when I lived there). Whether one can get at it from anywhere else to take a decent photo, I don't know. Take a look at this Google maps view showing the great 19th century cathedral-style building at bottom left and the older building (large enough as you can see from the Bristol History photo) at lower right. I don't know what the building at middle right opposite "The Park" is. --PeterR 18:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Rod, for doing this so promptly. I've made some further clarifications to the page, and have taken the liberty of re-ordering the gallery you added to show the earlier building first, with some explanation in the descriptions. Hope you don't mind! --PeterR 20:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Did You Know" has been updated

On 22 March 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Grotto at Goldney House, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Mgm|^(talk) 08:34, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bristol WP

Thanks for the invite to join this project - C (my late missus) and I spent roughly 75 to 85 in 'Clifwells' (aka Granby Hill), so our knowledge would be a bit dated now. I'll watch from afar and chip in when I can - but not formally join. Bob aka Linuxlad 21:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Bristol pics

Congrats on getting the dissertation submitted. if you are going to look at the photos needed for Bristol - can you keep an eye on Grade I listed buildings in Bristol, Grade II* listed buildings in Bristol & Grade II listed buildings in Bristol & associated articles. I've added pictures where I have them or can get then from geograph, but some are not very good or haven't got pictures at all. Any help appreciated.— Rod ^talk 18:11, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Sure. I'll make a list tommorow, and see if I can start tackling them. I also hereby give my permission for the 500 pixel versions of any of the photos at Cotch.net to be relicensed for WP, and I may give full size versions depending on the particular shot. Joe D (t) 00:44, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 24 March 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Arno's Court Triumphal Arch, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Carabinieri 11:59, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Taking Bristol to peer review

Great idea - I'd be up for it. I think it's edging near to FA status and a peer review should do a lot to close the gap. I'd be happy to give it a good look through. SP-KP 21:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mendips gliding

Please see my comment at Talk:Mendip Hills. --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 12:23, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Please see my Talk. --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 17:56, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Royal Fort

On 31 March 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Royal Fort, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 06:05, 31 March 2007 (UTC)