Talk:Russian Revolution of 1905

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Contents 1 A suggestion... 2 French Article 3 First Sentences 4 The Bloody Sunday photograph 5 Intro paragraph and pre-revolution assumptions

[edit] A suggestion...

I would like to point out that the last sentence of the third paragraph of "background", ending in "as the country lacked an industrial proletariat at the time," is inconsistant with all of the references to "the workers" and the unions. The correction, which I have added, should read "as, in his opinion, the country lacked a significant body of industrial proletariats at the time." /Hal

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>> Vladimir Ilionovich (Lenin)

Really?.. What's with the "Ilionovich" bit? --Bicycle repairman 02:44, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Hey um, on this page the "See also 'Russian History 18...' etc. is in italics, but on the Russian Revolution of 1917 it isn't. I'd fix it myself but I don't know which way is the right way.. nitpicky but thought I'd throw it out there. :) -Hawk

Hey guys i have to do a paper on the russian revolution and that time period and i cant find much on the people at the time i mean it talks about the workers conditions but i cant find anything on the peoples clothes or homes or way of life there is stuff on that time period but its all based in america and england by the way my grand uncle fought in russia during 1917 near the end of ww1 he was an american soldier it would help if i had ever met him darn oh well

{19:56 7feb06} i just wanted to say that 

-your frustrated friend-

In the first sentence of Background is says "which in 1905 was headed by Nicholas II, of the House of Romanov. " but the link goes to Czar Alexander's page also the Alexander II was a major reformer and he introduced reforms in local goverment and the judicial system.

[edit] French Article

I was wondering there is a French copy of this article however it isn't linked from the links on the left. Is there any way this could be rectified, I dont know how Change is necessary

using a little ingenuity i did it. change is necessary

[edit] First Sentences

The "Empire-wide spasm" sentence needs work. It sounds really unacademic.

[edit] The Bloody Sunday photograph

Is there any proof that the photograph was, in fact, taken that day? I recall reading somewhere that the image, well known though it may be, is actually a still from a later historical melodrama (possibly one by Eisenstein). 129.128.67.22 22:27, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Intro paragraph and pre-revolution assumptions

The intro of this article is too long and is more less half the article. In addition I take some issue with assertions such as unrest had been a regular part of the Russian Empire, serious disturbances had been rare in the decades prior to 1905 as there were multiple and very important armed and unarmed uprisings in Russia prior to 1905 that played a direct role in the '05 Revolution. Active revolutionaries were drawn almost exclusively from the intelligentsia makes it sound as the foundation for the revolution was based soley in the ranks of the academics which, of course, is also not true. Under Alexander III the Russian police political service (the Okhrana) acted very effectively to suppress both revolutionaries and proto-democratic movements across the country. discounts the virtual training ground that Siberian exile towns became and the large amount of revolutionary pusblishments and thought flowing into the country from the exile community.

There is also a notable lack of comment on the late arrival of the Bolshevik and Menshevik core in the events of the uprising and the exception that Trotsky played to this rule. This is an important point as the 1905 revolution was one of the earliest events that lead to Trotsky becoming arguably the people's most popular revolutionary leaders in Russia. Any thoughts on the best way to breakdown the intro section and address these other issues? NeoFreak 21:26, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what the introduction looked like in 2006, but when I looked at it, it was around two lines long! The intro is in many ways the most important part of an article, so I have been trying to expand it a bit to provide a very brief summary of the revolutions cause, course and effects. Any help greatly appreciated -- it should be short, but it should provide a useful summary. Larry Dunn 17:45, 8 March 2007 (UTC)