Talk:Samurai Warriors
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the debate was move. —Nightstallion (?) 12:40, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Support
- The title of the game is Samurai Warriors. However, the article of that name is being used as a redirect to Samurai (disambiguation). It appears that it was used at one time for the game, however on August 3, 2005 User:FunkyChicken! moved it without giving a justification; I have since asked him for one and no response has been forthcoming. As the Samurai Warriors link has an extensive history now, requesting this change. み使い Mitsukai 15:20, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
- Support. Olessi 05:43, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
IT makes sense to have it go to Samurai (disambiguation) since I searched for Samurai Warriors and expected an article about Samurai not an obscure video game. ShigeruNomi 06:43, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- This game is not obscure in the United States, and makes about as much sense as redirecting the original Japanese video game title (Sengoku Musou) to Sengoku Jidai. For that matter, a game that sold a million copies in Japan, more than that in the US, and has a sequel upcoming is not obscure, and falls well within notability standards for Wikipedia. What would make MORE sense is for have the top of the Samurai Warriors article (all capitalized) to say, "This article is about the video game. For the historical Japanese warrior caste, please see Samurai." I think this would be a more reasonable compromise. Usually, when native English speakers refer to samurai, they do not append warriors to the end, as this is considered redundant. -- Miwa * talk * contribs ^_^ 02:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- ShigeruNomi, I strongly object. This videogame is part of a series (Dynasty Warriors) that has sold millions worldwide. If you think of it as obscure, you obviously have no knowledge of the game itself. Why, then, are you here? The redirect is stupid - no one says "Samurai Warriors" - in the West, and indeed probably the East, the common mode of reference is just "Samurai". Plus, why would you capitalise "Warriors"? I'm reverting the redirect and will continue to do so if you even think of changing it back. I'm sorry, but this very idea is silly. IDX 12:35, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Duplicates!
- Er, why are there two copies of this article? -- Cronocke 01:25, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- It looks like this occured when Toasthaven2 made Samurai Warriors into a redirect page to Samurai in June, and created Samurai Warriors (video game). The redirect was reverted by 75.10.8.89 but the duplicate page not handled. Since more edits have been made to Samurai Warriors (video game) than this article since June, I would suggest leaving that as the main article and turning this into a disambiguation page. Marasmusine 06:39, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- I'd actually recommend that Samurai Warriors (video game) redirect to Samurai Warriors, as it's related to the Dynasty Warriors article (same company), and for reasons stated above, the Samurai Warriors article shouldn't redirect to Samurai itself. The little note at the top works just fine. If we're just unwilling to compare passages between the two pages and consolidate, I can volunteer. -- Cronocke 23:00, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks, I think it's better that way. I tried comparing the two before but my eyes went dizzy and I had to lie down. Marasmusine 06:46, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
- Redirect is up. Feel free to revert if necessary. -- Cronocke 10:59, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks, I think it's better that way. I tried comparing the two before but my eyes went dizzy and I had to lie down. Marasmusine 06:46, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
- I'd actually recommend that Samurai Warriors (video game) redirect to Samurai Warriors, as it's related to the Dynasty Warriors article (same company), and for reasons stated above, the Samurai Warriors article shouldn't redirect to Samurai itself. The little note at the top works just fine. If we're just unwilling to compare passages between the two pages and consolidate, I can volunteer. -- Cronocke 23:00, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
- It looks like this occured when Toasthaven2 made Samurai Warriors into a redirect page to Samurai in June, and created Samurai Warriors (video game). The redirect was reverted by 75.10.8.89 but the duplicate page not handled. Since more edits have been made to Samurai Warriors (video game) than this article since June, I would suggest leaving that as the main article and turning this into a disambiguation page. Marasmusine 06:39, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Non-player character list
I'm considering the removal of the list of non-playable characters; it takes up a large amount of space without providing any useful information. A simple statement such as 'many historical samurai from the Sengoku period make appearances in the game as non-playable characters' would suffice. Opinions? Marasmusine 19:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
To quote the tag I've just added: Articles on computer and video games should not list minutiae... Marasmusine 19:30, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
No. I used used samurai warriors in a report I did in school, and without that list I don't know what I would have done.
- Okay, fair enough; I'm going to listify it then. Marasmusine 07:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Samurai Warrior Series
I'd consider making articles for the seperate games. It's just getting confusing when it switchs from Samurai Warriors 1 to Samurai Warriors 2 then back to Samurai Warriors 1 without even telling you that.
No, it really needs to be done like Dynasty Warriors page if you ask me. Seraphimneeded 08:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] That gamecleanup tag...
...has been there since December so I thought I would start work on this article.
I have gone through the Fighting section and removed parts that were just too detailed and often resembled game instructions (e.g. we don't need to know what PlayStation button does what or exactly how the different combos are performed), and made other parts less verbose.
Before I go ahead and look at the other sections I thought I would stop and see if any editors wanted to discuss this first (plus reading this has made me want to go and play Samurai Warriors 2 :>) Marasmusine 10:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Massive Clean Up relating to SWXL & SW2
Ok, I just did a massive clean up, trying to move all of SWXL and SW2 stuff into a section for each. I also tried to remove duplicate data related to those games. Chances are I probably screwed something up big time because I had to change a lot of the wording for it to make sense... or of course I could have just missed moving something or moved something I shouldn't have. Seraphimneeded 08:55, 16 February 2007 (UTC)